Shrinking Reward Lists

[nicro]

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq286/nicro007/DDOQuestReward.png

Please tell me this is not working as intended.

[weddingly]

hard to tell.. what quest was it for and how many times have you run that quest?..

i'm sure you know that chests are coded to drop less loot if u run a quest too often -- i wonder if the same coding also applies to quest rewards. i seem to have noticed that if i run a quest far below my level or run it too often, the quest rewards become much less desirable.

if i run a quest at level or higher, especially in a group, the quest rewards seem to get much better.

[MrTops]

I've seen short end reward list like that occasionally as well post U9, but I'm not sure it's linked to running a quest too often (as I just tend to do 3 normal / 1 hard / and maybe 1 elite run on each quest).

Could just be bad luck?

[dmslasher]

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq286/nicro007/DDOQuestReward.png

Please tell me this is not working as intended.

what are you talking about? it has one of the best end rewards in the game! guild renoun!!! lol

[amethystdragon]

I think something is up with end rewards. Just ran a mindsunder with some guilds. One gets a +2 Tome on his end reward and another gets to choose between a Major Pot and Guild Renoun, those were the only 2 items on his end reward list. My end reward consisted of +5 Full plate (nothing on it) a Major Pot and Guild Renoun.

[nicro]

hard to tell.. what quest was it for and how many times have you run that quest?..

i'm sure you know that chests are coded to drop less loot if u run a quest too often -- i wonder if the same coding also applies to quest rewards. i seem to have noticed that if i run a quest far below my level or run it too often, the quest rewards become much less desirable.

if i run a quest at level or higher, especially in a group, the quest rewards seem to get much better.

The Screenshot is from my first trip through In the Flesh.

However, I never saw more than 3 items and the Renown option in the whole chain.

[pasterqb]

I have noticed rewards from the Dreaming Dark series and more in the range of 1-2 items from before the patch 4+ items so personally i think its a bug.

[maladjustedfool]

Any word on this from the dev's ? I just ran framework solo as a sorc level 15 and the list was 2 items for optional chest.

[Dark_Helmet]

Guildies and others have seen the same thing: Randomly reduced lists for end rewards.

As an example, I got only 4 items for a Reaver's Fate which is a timed quest that wouldn't be ransacked. Other runs have been a full listing.


They have some serious issues with the latest 9 / 9.1 updates.

Since the bug reports get into the QA quagmire (meaning, they are trying to replicate them with better data before passing them on to the DEVs), I don't think the proper DEV has even started to examine what got messed up.


Anyone who experiences issues should be loading up the bug reports with some good facts.


And, I sure miss the days when they posted known bugs and wanted more feedback (ladder bugs were a good example). That was an acknowledgement that they know about the bug and that they are working on it.

[Bunker]

Does it happen every time for that quest?

Is your sample size more than just the one picture?

[MeliCat]

I've seen something similar. Quests where I expect to get offered a minimum of 6 items to choose for as a reward and I get offered 4. And no reruns involved. And then other quests where I have got a lot more items than expected to choose from the end reward but about 5 of them were crafting essences.

Hasn't been quite bad enough to bug but now that you mention it I will start paying more attention.

[lugoman]

Seen the same thing. Also seen sparse end chest. Epic von6 end gave me only a stonemeld plate. No gold, no plat, not even an arrow.

[NaturalHazard]

I think something is up with end rewards. Just ran a mindsunder with some guilds. One gets a +2 Tome on his end reward and another gets to choose between a Major Pot and Guild Renoun, those were the only 2 items on his end reward list. My end reward consisted of +5 Full plate (nothing on it) a Major Pot and Guild Renoun.

ive noticed getting crappier and less stuff to choose from from mndsunder like 3 items and only level 8,10, and 12 for mindsunder elite.

now that they have crafting and stuff when can actually do with our vendor trash besides vendor it, they want to maybe up the grind a little bit more? Just a paranoid thought.

[Aelonwy]

I duo alot of quests with my hubby, our PC's are side by side, so we can see what each other gets on end reward lists. Lately, I've been getting a reward list significantly smaller than hubby's. Anywhere from 3 items fewer to half the number of items he has to choose from. Today we did the new quest series Harbinger of Madness together, he's done it 6 times with his main, I've done it 3 times with mine yet he still had more and often better items to choose from on his reward list. Don't know if it affects the reward list but I was using a gem of fortune at the time.

My theory is that because he is still VIP and I'm premium, maybe ... just maybe premiums get less rewards?

[sirgog]

Seen the same thing. Also seen sparse end chest. Epic von6 end gave me only a stonemeld plate. No gold, no plat, not even an arrow.

That chest usually does that - if you get any shards, seals or base items, you get no other loot (except a chance at a FRDS).

[Palantyr]

I saw a number of shortened end reward lists on my last TR also, done post u9.1. Mostly from the harbinger quest line and part 2 of inspired quarter.

[SirShen]

I saw a number of shortened end reward lists on my last TR also, done post u9.1. Mostly from the harbinger quest line and part 2 of inspired quarter.

Also having this problem with my TRs. 2 items as rewards but iv also had 1 item in chests and no gold in the past.

[Anthorin]

I think I can beat that. Ran Reaver on elite yesterday and when I opened the end chest it had nothing in it for me. Everyone else got stuff but for me there was nothing. Apparently a few people have seen that happen......

[Sarisa]

I think I can beat that. Ran Reaver on elite yesterday and when I opened the end chest it had nothing in it for me. Everyone else got stuff but for me there was nothing. Apparently a few people have seen that happen......

The only time that has ever happened for me is when I was D/C'ed when the raid was completed. When I logged back in, the game granted me completion but wouldn't give me anything in the raid chest. This happened in Titan, and I D/C'ed because Verizon decided to do some unannounced maintenance on my line.

If that happens when you're not D/C'ed, you should really bug report it when it happens.

[moops]

2 shrouds and 2 reavers today with only 4 rewards on each list:(

All VIP alts. I also waited a few misn to see if it were lag, but they stayed the same.

[mystafyi]

ToD 4 items and renown... luckily it wasnt 20th comp.
u9 pack end reward lists can be as small as 2!

could it be overloaded servers having issues with loot generation? thinking of shroud chest lag .....lag issues in force post u9 and reward lists fekked. linked issue? or just a hurried update full of buggy code?

[amethystdragon]

I duo alot of quests with my hubby, our PC's are side by side, so we can see what each other gets on end reward lists. Lately, I've been getting a reward list significantly smaller than hubby's. Anywhere from 3 items fewer to half the number of items he has to choose from. Today we did the new quest series Harbinger of Madness together, he's done it 6 times with his main, I've done it 3 times with mine yet he still had more and often better items to choose from on his reward list. Don't know if it affects the reward list but I was using a gem of fortune at the time.

My theory is that because he is still VIP and I'm premium, maybe ... just maybe premiums get less rewards?

Everyone in my guild that had issues with their end reard list being so small are VIP's. And the guild member who got the +2 Tome is also VIP and was running a TR.

I think that the code that causes end reward to be randomly generated has gone a little wonky.

[Shade]

Yea end rewards are definitely broke. Usually only get 2 options for most quests i've done.

Epic quests are especiall egrevious offenders.. Sure thats not a new issue, but its nuts it still hasn't been looked into.

Did spies in the house - rather brutal epic, seemed harder then before, especially since we took no rogue.. 45min, lota death, but we beat it.. End reward for such a brutal quest? 2 options, ml2 wep or ml1 wep.. No guild renown even, pathetic. I realise this is norm pre u9 almost, tho usually you get 4 choices.

Weird we never caught this on lam, guess I didn't run much quests in u9.1 U9 end reward lists seemed fine.

[zwiebelring]

I just don't like it. The game has become so much grind, it must not become difficult grind too.

[Tinrae]

Huh. My hubby and I ran an elite Gianthold sidequest for favor last night, and my end reward list was also short of selection - 3 items only. I didn't think too much about it at the time, just assumed I'd angered the gods of RNG.

I am a Premium player, if it makes any diff, and was above level for the quest.

[ShotByBothSides]

I am not encouraged by what I have read in this thread. I too have seen smaller lists and had just put it down to bad luck.

I sincerely hope there is not a ploy here from Turbine to make us grind more for decent items to deconstruct now that crafting has been introduced.

[DaSawks]

I have also noticed small end reward lists. Yesterday morning I was in a VOD run and I only got 6 total items from the 3 chests. To go along with this I am seeing other stuff taking the place of loot. How many level 1 scrolls do I need? Also there is an option to recieve loot based on Class. Why would my Wizard see handwraps then? With the addition of Essences in U9 there is another loot slot taken away. Loot should be level dependant. If you run a level 20 quest why would you get level 1 ****? Will you see an Epic item in the Waterworks? Am I wrong?

[Siskel]

I have bug reported it previously, and noticed this mostly in IQ. Also, do the Necro 3 quests have a really long reward list? I get quite a few items in the lists, and I also get around 4-6 different essences for crafting.

[Aelonwy]

I think that the code that causes end reward to be randomly generated has gone a little wonky.

Well thanks thats good to know. Playing side by side with my hubby it was difficult not to feel short changed constantly getting less loot. I'm glad to know this is some kind of a bug and not a consequence of being premium versus VIP.