Remember When You Were a DDO Doofus?

[nolaureltree000]

before we were all elitists and zergers, before all our TRs and epic loot, before we all started kicking people from groups for dying and yelling at TWFers for not using khopeshes, we were all DDO doofuses. what types of things did you do when you were a DDO doofus that make you http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/images/smilies//facepalm.gif now?


as for me:

-my first toon was a ranger. and since STR gives you more damage, i put STR items wherever i could fit them on my person: gloves, bracers, rings. i never even thought to check my character sheet to see if they were all stacking, i just assumed that because it worked that way in other MMOs, it worked that way here.

-on the same toon, i never bought any weapons other than the highest +X that i could buy. i didnt know what the prefixes and suffixes did, so i just avoided them.

-on my first caster (WIZ), id buff everyone in the group with mage armor. i also didnt find out about inscribing spells until people started passing me spell inscription materials from chests.

-i was one of those casters that grabbed all the aggro with my spells then ran around kiting everything.

-i saved all my gems because i thought they surely had some sort of use.

-0% fort.

[stoopid_cowboy]

After playing multiple melee toons (barbs and rogues), and healers (flavored souls). Several tr's on melee's and healers, I rolled up a Whizzard a few weeks ago.
My Whiz is now to lvl 16 and every time I play him I think *facepalm* "what was I thinking?"

I am still a DDO doofus

yuda :D

[Dulcimerist]

My first toon was a dwarf barbarian, and I didn't take PA/Cleave since I thought the prestige class abilities would end up killing me since they'd drop my AC so low. (I did feat swaps later at level 11 so I could jump into the prestige class at level 12, and have been LOVING it ever since!)

As a noob, I took that gimped barb toon through Delera's for the first time ever. In the last quest of the chain, I saw three switches by a door, popped them all, and got spike trapped and blasted by fire. That's when I learned never to touch anything in a quest I was unfamiliar with.

[Thesoulgazer]

Wait- You need fort?

Seriously (I am probably going to take a rep hit for this) do you really need fortification?

[jcTharin]

I remember when i thought cleave was the most awesome thing ever. now it really is awesome :)

i also remember my first bard. i made it one i got drow and i tried to make it do CC with spells and do TWF. i couldn't hit anything with my weapons or with my spells :D

and then there was the battle cleric...

[k1ngp1n]

Wait- You need fort?

Seriously (I am probably going to take a rep hit for this hopefully you won't) do you really need fortification? Yes you most definitely do.

In red, my child. In red.

[lazylaz]

before we were all elitists and zergers, before all our TRs and epic loot, before we all started kicking people from groups for dying and yelling at TWFers for not using khopeshes, we were all DDO doofuses.

I guess since I'm not an elitist or zerger, don't have any TRs or epic loot, don't kick people from groups for whatever reason and don't care what type of weapon a player uses (as long as its not a lettuce leaf) then I'm still a DDO doofus.

And if I was/did/have all that I'd still put my hand up to be DDO doofus!

:)

[LoveNeverFails]

Wait- You need fort?

Seriously (I am probably going to take a rep hit for this) do you really need fortification?

yes. and as soon as possible.

[weddingly]

In red, my child. In red.

explain whyness plox?

[Hokiewa]

Wait- You need fort?

Seriously (I am probably going to take a rep hit for this) do you really need fortification?

Hmmm....sarcasm meter at medium....

[Dulcimerist]

explain whyness plox?

An enemy getting a critical hit on you is badsauce with a side order of fail. :(

[Symar-FangofLloth]

Man, I barely remember.

Cap12, Desert was the be-all end-all, I was a human rogue.

Memories of people recalling to refill sp in Invaders!, and only the casters really doing anything.

I imagine I died a lot, got lost a lot, and didn't contribute much, but we always (or almost always) got through the quests, so I guess I did decent enough.

I also recall when the only rangers worth anything were dwarven rangers.

I got into a somewhat hardcore guild, though, at the time (they've long since dissolved, ah Xoriat drama), which probably tremendously helped my playstyle in the long run.

[Wizard_Zero]

My first toon, I played only 1 Cleric. Got to lvl 20 without any fortification what-so-ever, died many, many times along the way. No one ever said a word about me dying so much, which is weird now that I look back at it. One day I just wrote "Why Do I Die So Much?" in party chat, and that is how I learned about fortification.

Second stupid thing, still on my Cleric: I would buff anyone that enters the taverns with Bull Str, Aid, and like 6 other cleric buff spells, because I thought they could take those buffs with them in dungeons. Took a couple of weeks before I realized everything dispels after entering a new instance and my "niceness" was in vain. Once again, not 1 person said what I was doing was useless.

This stuff was when F2P first came out, and I guess most people were still new to the game, so most of us were people with no clue of the game

Now I try to remember my "noobish" days, so when a new person is in a quest and does something really stupid, I can say: "I was that guy once..."

[weddingly]

An enemy getting a critical hit on you is badsauce with a side order of fail. :(

monster weapons shouldn't be doing more than 2x their usual damage. it is serious but...
are you suggesting they do 3x or 4x crits?

[Symar-FangofLloth]

monster weapons shouldn't be doing more than 2x their usual damage. it is serious but...
are you suggesting they do 3x or 4x crits?

Some of them can hit hard enough on regular hits that even x2 damage is a lot. Go let an appropriate level ogre beat on you for a while.

[Kmnh]

When I was a DDO doofus I played a halfling wizard with 6 str. I left many full plates in chests. I fought my way to the shrine in the waterworks with 4 a depleted korthos wand and 4 soulstones in my backpack, trying to land a hit on the kobold shamans without dying to the lightning bolts, thinking "this is the best mmo ever". 2 of my RL friends gave up on the game at that spot :P

[Eistander]

When I was a "DDO Doofus", just about everyone, save for the beta testers were doofuses.. then again, even they were in the same (and off of, come to think of it) boat. Nowadays, it takes some pretty serious tiredness/strong drink to have it happen, but it does happen from time to time. And I pity the parties when it does too lol.

[chak]

Way back iwhen i was even more of a doofus i got yelled at for using 2 weopons instead of a shield.
And almost all of my first toons had a 10 con....

[Mark_G]

Having never played any other MMO, I had no idea how to "talk" to someone directly using the chat box...nor did I know how to respond to anyone who sent me a tell. Those first few weeks as my cleric were really awkward...

[Therigar]

we were all DDO doofuses

My guild leader, Doofus the Village Idiot (http://my.ddo.com/character/orien/doofus/), strongly objects to your blatant generalization of meaningless behavior as making you all doofuses. :mad:

So, after a council meeting we've decided to make you all honorary Village Idiots (http://my.ddo.com/guild-orien-the_council_of_village_idiots/) instead. :D

[Cardtrick]

One day I just wrote "Why Do I Die So Much?" in party chat, and that is how I learned about fortification.

Yeah . . . that just got added to my signature. :)

[Qezuzu]

My first toon, I played only 1 Cleric. Got to lvl 20 without any fortification what-so-ever, died many, many times along the way. No one ever said a word about me dying so much, which is weird now that I look back at it. One day I just wrote "Why Do I Die So Much?" in party chat, and that is how I learned about fortification.

Second stupid thing, still on my Cleric: I would buff anyone that enters the taverns with Bull Str, Aid, and like 6 other cleric buff spells, because I thought they could take those buffs with them in dungeons. Took a couple of weeks before I realized everything dispels after entering a new instance and my "niceness" was in vain. Once again, not 1 person said what I was doing was useless.

This stuff was when F2P first came out, and I guess most people were still new to the game, so most of us were people with no clue of the game

Now I try to remember my "noobish" days, so when a new person is in a quest and does something really stupid, I can say: "I was that guy once..."

Great post.

Everyone, no one comes into the game with an encyclopedic knowledge of the game. If someone is dying an awful lot or something like that, ask them about it. They might simply not know something that you do.. you could really help someone.

[Ngha]

When I first started, before TR and Monks cause I remember wowing the first time I saw a char 2 feet taller than I was (I believe TRs used to be bigger than they are now).

I played your friendly self healing battle cleric, with 8 con, 11 wis, using THF and heavy armor, only healing people when they asked instead of nannyboting and made it to lvl 12 with lvl 2 spells because I never had enough plat to buy a +2 WIS item on the AH, and starter gear.

I stand today in disbelief that that actually happened. I wouldn't make it off korthos before rerolling(not that I even do korthos before lvl 3 anymore)

[AcesWylde]

Wait- You need fort?

Seriously (I am probably going to take a rep hit for this) do you really need fortification?

No... you don't


Well, at least not until after Korthos, after that you might, but why leave Korthos it's like an island resort, lol.

[FeralKittie]

I was so excited when I first heard about this game; other MMOs I'd tried just hadn't fit right for me and I'd always wished I had played more PnP. D&D? Online?! Sweet!

My boyfriend and our friend had already rolled up characters and I thought it looked like we'd need someone to handle traps to round out the party...yeah :p. Halfling rogue with maxed int and dumped con, no toughness and got every trap related enhancement as soon as I could. I took her all the way to level 10 before a GR, mostly in our group or solo above level. Turns out, this isn't PnP. On the plus side, all those deaths if a mob so much as looked at me wrong taught me quite a bit. :rolleyes:

There are way too many more to list, I think I can sum it up by saying my major doofus move was not finding my way to the forums or the wiki sooner. :D
I now list a few DDO resources as a standard part of my character bios in the hopes that the info helps any newer players who happen to look.

[SaneDitto]

I tried playing a Machine Gun Nun before the build was even conceived. I even got the feats! :eek:

To be fair, I did manage to max WIS and got 14 CON by accident, because I thought, y'know, those stats seemed important. But that was the end of my intelligence, because on top of that I bought some generic trash suit of full plate from the AH, wore it, and pranced around going "WOW! This is some awesome armor!"

To this day, listening to the ambient sounds in the Harbor drives the nostalgia home so bad. :o

[Dulcimerist]

monster weapons shouldn't be doing more than 2x their usual damage. it is serious but...
are you suggesting they do 3x or 4x crits?

Going out to Ataraxia's Haven and facing the heavy picks (x4) of the Duergar miners is what sold me on fortification. ;)

Fortification also stops sneak attacks, although I don't know exactly how bad enemy sneak attacks can get.

[SaneDitto]

0 -70

That is all. ;)

[Bunker]

45 minute Delera Part 2. (and have screen shot sadly)

That should explain all.

-Bunk

[binnsr]

before we were all elitists and zergers, before all our TRs and epic loot, before we all started kicking people from groups for dying and yelling at TWFers for not using khopeshes, we were all DDO doofuses. what types of things did you do when you were a DDO doofus that make you

That does not grok! I remember disembarking at Smugglers Rest and telling Euphonia how things really worked! (and then going to fetch her 5 gems anyway :D -- and stopping to admire myself in the mirror on the way to the first one!)

[binnsr]

45 minute Delera Part 2. (and have screen shot sadly)

That should explain all.

-Bunk
how about using the club because it was all you had that worked in there :D

or spending 5 hours in von3 with M.E.S.S. the first time .. and another 6 in von5 .. only to not kill the golem..

[Thaxlsillyia]

:) did my share of time under the doofus hat.

took luck of the heros and lightning reflexes on a pure rogue :eek: also no toughness feat till lvl 18. and refused to use rapers till lvl 19 and stuck with shorties. also thought light and moderate fortification stacked for a long time before noticing the fortification numbers on character info sheet. split level up points between str and dext on a finesse build :D

[Asketes]

On my Dwarf Barb, I was TWF with a 10 base dex (had no idea about the twf feats), then I had an addy hammerblock armor for all the DR i could get (barbs have /-)


oh man it was pretty bad.

[ceiswyn]

Ah, you take me back to the first incarnation of Keston... The TWF ranger who had 14 Charisma because I thought that charming animals sounded kinda cool, and max Dex because I like graceful prettyboys, and Con, is that important...?

Thing is, since I gotta lot of alts and some of them progress slowly, I still occasionally run across doofusosity on a regular basis. The l20 cleric still wearing Korthos goggles; yeah, that was special...

[weddingly]

it's pretty horrendous really. in any mmorpg/rpger game you just do not know what stats to trust. the item description? the character sheet? the combat log? theofficial developer's description? all of them could be wrong.

so its not unusual to encounter problems at the start.

[bubbatron]

first time in stk and part 2 trying to kill the wandering kobolds !!!

(c'mon who hasnt done that ?

[markusthelion]

monster weapons shouldn't be doing more than 2x their usual damage. it is serious but...
are you suggesting they do 3x or 4x crits?

He's suggesting you'll get your butt kicked without heavy fort. Its the truth as well.

[Yagi]

Before I understood that it was absolutely feasable to afford all the debuff-curing potions that I want on any character that steps foot out of Korthos, I found a bunch of clickies like remove curse and neutralize poison and thought they were the greatest things ever (having sought after extremely rare but similar clickies in older mmos zealously as a pvp'er/raider) and thought that they in fact dropped speciffically in the quests I found them in and made runs with my fellow newb buddies for the express purpose of obtaining said clickies for them.

Pretty sure I even made some posts here about how awesome the clickies I lusted after were. I actually made a bunch of posts on a bunch of forums about them, and what quests they dropped in. They were of course simple randomly generated loot items ><

When I could have simply pawned everything I was saving in my bank and alternative characters I made specifically to hold my absolute vendor trash and bought more then enough potions for everybody. But I didnt know what anything was worth so I saved everything I pulled until I met a vet who explained to me that anything I couldnt see a use for I should pawn, and then the money came rolling in. Although I took him a bit too literally and pawned a wop rapier. I was a barb, I couldnt see a use for some stupid rapier...you are welcome whoever!

[Dragavon]

Wait- You need fort?

Seriously (I am probably going to take a rep hit for this) do you really need fortification?

heavy fortification protects you from neg rep :D

[Dandonk]

My first character was a 28 point human rogue: STR 10, DEX 16, CON 8, INT 18, WIS 8, CHA 8. TWF finesse. I acutally had a bit of trouble getting through the old starter island quest.
She retired at level 7ish when drow was added to the game and I got enough favor to unlock that.

(of course, I then made a 10 con drow melee battlecleric... the road has been long indeed...)

[Zeruell]

My first character probably matches with a few horror stories we've all collected -- I remember pulling up Aspenor's sorcerer thread while I was building him, but my actual performance (due to clueless playstyle more than anything) was mostly abysmal.
I did manage early on to learn which monsters had high reflex saves, though -- relying overmuch on Niac's pretty much beat it into my head that tactical spellcasting was a must.

My most cringe-worthy moment, though? I jumped on the wagon in the middle of Festivult 2009. I remember now, with excruciating clarity, getting that Green Steel belt, seeing the base value (on a level 3 character, mind), and vendoring it. Yeah.

[Aurora1979]

My first char was a twf ranger i got to level 16 when that was cap and it was fine but my second char, which became my main.....

Drow pure cleric full on healbot. I took pride in being able to buff and remove "everything" even perfecting it so I could do it before people could sort it out themselves. I carried no scrolls, rarely used wands and used to duo heal in shroud without quicken or empower(healing)..... or any metas on the char at all.

I used to love playing that char.... I think the only thing I was remembered for was my hat :) Great big stovepipe thing as i also never had a minos. :D Pixie.... I want that hat back!! I hope you paid to transfere it over from europe!!! :D

NOTE: ..... this was on the euro servers so being as there was only ever 2 clerics on at any one time (dev enforced rule) I was still able to get in groups.... I shudder at the thought of her now

[Qezuzu]

Going out to Ataraxia's Haven and facing the heavy picks (x4) of the Duergar miners is what sold me on fortification. ;)

Fortification also stops sneak attacks, although I don't know exactly how bad enemy sneak attacks can get.

I know that epic malicia has sneak attacks, and those are in the 70's (learned because of accidentally having heavy fort swapped out).

Tiefling Rogues in Amrath are in the 50's (I bought the wrong Yugo pots when I got them.. bought the INT ones that lower fort), and Tiefling Assassins in eChrono are probably very high, but I haven't been hit by them without fort.

It's a very large amount of damage... there is no good reason to not have fort past level 11. However, the Devils have 2x crits, so it's not a terrible idea to use inspire recklessness against them, just to make chewing up their +200k HP all that faster.

[kartos]

I still am a doofus (and proud of it!) but one of my early characters was an elven ranger along the lines of 20 DEX 14 STR 14 WIS and of course 6 CON he managed to survive at the beggining due to relatively high AC but that didn't last long... about level 4 I was one shotted by an ogre crit... then came the 10 con elven battle wizard he didn't last past level 2(he literally died 1 minute after stepping out of korthos)

[Qezuzu]

As for OP:

My first character, a pewpew AA, was an absolute trainwreck. I splashed a level of wizard, I took exotic proficiency: Bastard Sword because I had an uber Bastard sword of lesser reptilian bane, I took medium armor proficiency because medium armor is obviously better than light armor, I don't think I had fortification of any kind at any point in time, and I had failtastic gear for my level (was only using ~+3 stat items because that was all I could afford). It was also an elf, and at level 14 (the highest I managed to get him), I had a whopping 140 HP.

I then rolled a drow rogue, got her to about level 12 and deleted my AA. She didn't have GTWF, because I thought trapmaking was cool and that I needed nimble fingers to qualify for it (it's granted automatically, much like ranger feats). However, she had 377 HP at cap (which is good for a drow rogue on her first life, without much gear like GS) and heavy fort.

I then TRed her into a halfling rogue, and after I capped her I was pretty much no longer a DDO doofus. I now have 100 more HP than first life (477), the Abishai 3-piece set, about 30 epic items (I craft them for the sake of having them. I crafted am epic docent of grace, even though I won't be able to, at any point, equip it), and every item she has in her main gear is epic, except for the ToD ravager set, Tharne's Goggles, and a GS HP Item.

[Thoom]

Proud member of the DDO Doofus Club, with lifetime membership.

[Seamonkeysix]

Putting full plate and tower shield on my rogue and wondering why my evasion didn't work and my skills were totally cruddy...

Putting no points into con on same rogue and wondering why I died all the time...

Having no fortification on same rogue and wondering why I died all the time...

Having a kill count of 0 and wondering why I couldn't kill anything with my totally rocking khopesh...which I didn't have proficiency in...yes, on the same rogue.

:(

[cupajoe]

That's right. When I started playing I wanted to be a trapsmith! Don't laugh I really thought they needed to be disabled. I also thought I needed to max out sneak (hide and move silently) so that I could get behind the enemies and sneak attack em. Oh and I wanted sneak to be able to scout. Stop laughing at me...the character generator thingy told me rogues make excellent scouts! And what else...lets see...oh yeah I needed max Dex and also Int cause I wanted a high AC so I wouldn't get hit and I wanted my character to be smart. Str and Con and Chr were all secondary and who in the non cleric world needs Wis?

So yeah for me it was a complete lack of understanding of the differences between this game and PnP. I also didn't understand the actual roles that a rogue would play in the end game.

[Hambo]

Some of them can hit hard enough on regular hits that even x2 damage is a lot. Go let an appropriate level ogre beat on you for a while.

Correction... a very short while... :D

[Kromize]

before we were all elitists and zergers, before all our TRs and epic loot, before we all started kicking people from groups for dying and yelling at TWFers for not using khopeshes, we were all DDO doofuses. what types of things did you do when you were a DDO doofus that make you http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/images/smilies//facepalm.gif now?

I've always been an elitist zerger. newb

[Rian]

My entire first year as a player, (very young you see...ask my guildies...) was my DDO Doofus. warforged fighter with back when we had 4 enchancements and they were hated on a whole nother level than now. Didn't know about toughness, fortification, haste (Yes, I will admit I did not know about haste), after him I made a paladin named Ryo (Yes Turbine, I had that name first!!!!) with horrendous stats, instead of STR, Con, CHA, I put into all of them :p had a 69hp wizard...at cap... ahhh, the good ol' days back when I was actually surprised to see skeletons pop up out of the ground, wondering why oozes ate my weapons, why MM was such an uber spell...

but it's all good now I fixed them with duct tape...or deleting them...

Oh, how I envy the newbies :(

[Dulcimerist]

The l20 cleric still wearing Korthos goggles; yeah, that was special...

Goggles of Insight? My melee toons just can't bring themselves to throw those things away. lol

[Veileira]

My first ever character was a battlecleric with snake blood feat. This is a roleplaying game, right? Improved saves vs poison are a good idea on an elf, right?

[Illtemperedclavier]

Like it was yesterday...and it very well may have been yesterday. It took me months to figure out that you could buy and consume food and drink in the taverns to regen spell and hitpoints. I would stand in the tavern forever waiting for my points to trickle in.

What a doofus.

[Cardtrick]

Goggles of Insight? My melee toons just can't bring themselves to throw those things away. lol

For a long time, they were actually among the best-in-slot items for meleers without Tharne's, and it's very easy to get to cap before getting a pair of Tharne's.

Now, though, it's very easy to craft a pair of ___ Goggles of Battle Skill, which have the same competence bonus to attack. (I like Blindness Immunity of Battle Skill on a pair of goggles with a guild slot, slotted with HP.)

[caution]

Mine was maxing the repair skill on my halfling wizard. Thought it was supposed to help mana regen at shrines for some reason, not the lame ass skill it was now.

Thanks for greater reincarnation is all I can say! :)

[Meyhnach]

at cap 12 times in EU Boldrei:

i was dreaming to get glowing weps
my first glowing wep was thundering bastard sword
i was happy to useit w/o exotic wep feat and any att penalty knowledge.

[NinjaCereal]

Got pointed to the game by a friend of mine. My first toon was an elven AA. I believe, though I don't actually remember doing it, that I used the free feat swap and switched out point blank shot for luck of heroes. I mean why would I need point blank shot? I'm not gonna be standing close when I range stuff.....

Heavy fort I caught onto pretty quick. +6 stat items, not so much. I remember standing around in meridia with a bunch of starter gear. My best weapon up until level 14 or so was a greatsword of lesser reptilian bane that I got from a collectible trade in. It sure looked cool though.

Took me even longer to realize what improved precise shot does. People would tell me to make sure I had it off. In my head I'd be thinking: "Why on earth would I have that on? It's useless..."

[Paleus]

I stayed on a ship in Irestone Inlet a little too long and....boom goes the dynamite.

[Master_of_None]

how about using the club because it was all you had that worked in there :D

or spending 5 hours in von3 with M.E.S.S. the first time .. and another 6 in von5 .. only to not kill the golem..

Now I don't feel so bad...only 3 hours for my first time in VoN 3.

However, I got repeatedly pwned by Jacoby Drexelhand in the old starter quest on my wizard. I don't remember if you got negative xp for dying in the starter quests, but if you did, I was in the hole big time. Took me forever to figure out a way to kill him.

[EustaceTrevelyan]

An enemy getting a critical hit on you is badsauce with a side order of fail. :(

Yeah, to the point where i'm looking at all the posts asking if you need for and why and wondering if they're joking/sarcastic, it's THAT assumed. No fort=blacklist after about level 11, or earlier. (11 since 100% fort is assumed, so when they see you get crit, and they can tell, they know you aren;'t in the know.)

[Tiseria]

Not knowing how to get to gianthold and the party that invited me laughing/kick instead of just saying something. Felt like a total tard for awhile but I have since had my revenge a couple times. Rarely do I forget a name.

[MrWizard]

first toon, when level cap was 10, was a 'true multiclass'...lol
a 5 fighter / 5 sorc...sorc!!

There I was, switching out armor and robes to avoid the armor penalty to casting. I picked spells that were not affected by armor as much as I could.
None of my spells were useful at high level since I was only a level 5 sorc...!!!
My fighting skills were bad as I was a 5th level fighter.

I survived by having a ton of 10th level wands like fireball and the like...

Even did raids...velah wasted me quick, I could not hit anything in tempest spine...

oh man.

and I see that kind of build everyday with new players....and I try to tell them why your multiclass does not work when you do it that way...

then I made a drow wizard and kicked butt.

[Strider1963]

Hey, im still a noob (at least on level 16 and up quests). I remember wearing a +6 armor bracers for the longest time on my pally before i found out it didnt stack with my full plate :-)... Just recently, I finally did the raid in the sands and tried to kill the Queen by myself and she nuked me.... live and learn...

[Trifikas]

I remember sneaking up on kobolds in the WW slayer area to ambush them.

I remember me and my brother parking our toons in the shrine room in The Pit (after about an hour and a half in there) and logging off, hoping that when we logged back on the next day we could pick up where we left off.

[Maugrim101]

Most of my Doofus moments involve me falling off something. Doesn't happen as much now, but can remember my first Coal Chamber <Shudder>.

Had some interesting Lava Diving moments as well.

Von 5, DQ, TOD just for examples and my first ever trip to the vale, I managed to fall into the lava in the Twelve TWICE.

[corpman]

i remeber feeling like i was one bada$$ toon as a WF battlecleric because i could solo von 3 at lvl cap 12, that is until me and a buddy ran it with 2 guys that really knew what they were doing and equipped to the teeth. we entered the quest and never saw them again as i got to the beholder room and they finished the quest about that time. I always remembered that run and have aspired to become one of those people ever since. To bad their guld has almost died now :(

[elraido]

One good thing about starting to play at the launch of the game, we were all sort of doofuses. Granted, I played D&D before, so I knew how the mechanics worked. But there were also those changes from PnP that screwed everyone up.

[Teech]

Yeah, to the point where i'm looking at all the posts asking if you need for and why and wondering if they're joking/sarcastic, it's THAT assumed. No fort=blacklist after about level 11, or earlier. (11 since 100% fort is assumed, so when they see you get crit, and they can tell, they know you aren;'t in the know.)

Really? You're talking about blacklisting people in a thread which is about how we were all newbs once and don't start a game with encyclopedic knowledge about it?

Really? :confused: :(

[elraido]

Yeah, to the point where i'm looking at all the posts asking if you need for and why and wondering if they're joking/sarcastic, it's THAT assumed. No fort=blacklist after about level 11, or earlier. (11 since 100% fort is assumed, so when they see you get crit, and they can tell, they know you aren;'t in the know.)

What about being good enough to not get hit? Most of my toons, I don't run fort until I have enough time to run out in the orchard to get minos legens....sometimes I am level 14-16 at that point. :D Like I said, solution to 0% fort...don't get hit.....

[parowan]

I still have doofus moments. Recently TRed into a barb. Was cruising through Korthos. Didn't bother to drink a healing pot. Didn't realize how high my jump was while raging. My kids were watching and instead of just running down the a short flight of stairs I jumped from the top and promptly died from falling damage. At least my kids thought it was funny.

Now whenever I play in front of my six-year-old he always says "remember when you jumped off the stairs and died? That was my favorite!"

You know you're a doofus when your six-year-old calls you a newb.

[Billybobml]

Several and ongoing...

My favorite was with my Ranger. Was accepted by a guild I had landed spots in their ToD raids and said, "Whoa, these guys are good and fun!" I was accepted on my 20th shroud run just as I was about to TR. A month later I am high enough level to raid with them.

Never ran VoD before (how did that happen?!?). On the run in the freshly TR'd new guy in the guild jumps into the big glowy red aura because it looks interesting in there...DING!

Guildy: What happened?
Me: Don't know... (checks combat log) Says I was killed by me...
Entire Guild: *crickets*

[binnsr]

I could not hit anything in tempest spine...


To be fair though, about the only folks that could reliably hit the original blackguards were max str fighters with attack boost.. :D

[Sandheart]

I remember my first run with a group...I was a lvl 4 cleric, and it was the first time I discovered how to join a group =/. It took the group 10 minutes to teach me how to heal others....and when I finally could do it we went on the finish the quest. I ran into the fight with the melees and died. I waited for someone to grab my stone and then hit the Rez button-thinking I would come back alive. I think they lost their patience, and kicked me. It took me a quest or to find out you had to click the shrine...=P

[Philibusta]

IF yer still yelling at TWF's for not using the weapons YOU want them to use....you've graduated from doofus to full-fledged jacka$$. :p

..I will remain a doofus. In the sense that I will never zerg, never drool over Greensteel (honestly, I couldn't care less), never TR (don't see the point), never blacklist anyone for not having the right gear (not much of a problem since I mostly solo and when I don't its with guildies, or I'm joining someone else's group), and never kick anyone from group for having the set to build their character different from the cookie-cutter norms.

Go Team Doofus.