Essence Yields by Level

[Lithic]

I've kept track of the last 100 deconstructions of each level of item. Lvl 3-5 are done, not sure I'll bother with level 1-2 as they are 1-3 lesser + chance of 1 greater, and 2-6 lesser + chance of 1-2 greaters respectively.

It looks like the level of the deconstruction is also the max number of greater essences you can get (a lvl 4 can get up to 4, a level 3 can get up to 3, etc)

Level 3:
5 to 12 lesser essences (Avg 8.12)
Chance to get 1-3 greaters.

Distribution: (first number is number of essences, second number is number of times this number occured in 100 deconstructs)
05 07
06 07
07 21
08 21
09 30
10 06
11 06
12 02

1d8+4 works, but the distribution suggest something like 50d24/10

Level 4:
12 to 21 Lesser Essences (Avg: 16.22)
Chance to get 1-4 Greater Essences

Distribution:
12 03
13 08
14 10
15 19
16 18
17 17
18 09
19 05
20 08
21 03

1d10+11, 3d4+9, and 9d2+3 work. The distribution looks more like 3d4+9 to me. Someone with more math skills can likely find out for real.

Level 5:
24 to 38 Lesser Essences (Avg: 31.63)
Chance to get 1-5 Greater Essences

Distribution:
24 01
25 02
26 02
27 04
28 10
29 01
30 13
31 04
32 22
33 10
34 15
35 09
36 02
37 02
38 01

2d8+22 seems to work. Not sure why 29 and 31 have so few appearances though.

Hope this was usefull to someone else, took a while heh.

[kittikatgurl]

Okay I have about 100 decons recorded as well:

Level 1:
- Lesser: 1-3 (average 1.9)
- Greater: 0-1

Level 2:
- Lesser: 2-6 (average 3.9)
- Greater: 0-2

Level 3:
- Lesser: 2-11 (average 7.8)
- Greater: 0-2

Level 4:
- Lesser: 12-19 (average 15.7)
- Greater: 0-4

Level 5:
- Lesser: 24-38 (average 31.5)
- Greater: 0-5

[Lithic]

Okay I have about 100 decons recorded as well:

Level 1:
- Lesser: 1-3 (average 1.9)
- Greater: 0-1

Level 2:
- Lesser: 2-6 (average 3.9)
- Greater: 0-2

Level 3:
- Lesser: 2-11 (average 7.8)
- Greater: 0-2

Level 4:
- Lesser: 12-19 (average 15.7)
- Greater: 0-4

Level 5:
- Lesser: 24-38 (average 31.5)
- Greater: 0-5

Oh mine were 100 decons per level, though I've only got about 15 lvl 1s, and 40 lvl 2s, so I didn't bother posting them here.

[donfilibuster]

Fair to say the amount of lessers halve with each level so you may just vendor for plat the items that have no good turnout.

[MeliCat]

Fair to say the amount of lessers halve with each level so you may just vendor for plat the items that have no good turnout.

Yeah that makes sense. I get so many lessers.

Using my hagglebard to decon. His new loggout spot is that house k pub.

[kinar]

Star, do you happen to have what items you were deconning?

I'm working on a list of what prefixes and suffixes on weapons result in what kind of essences currently.

I would guess that the list coincides with the school of the appropriate shard when you recraft (since that is supposed to be how the system works) but since there are a lot of shards not yet in the game, i figured it would be nice to have a community list.

[Lithic]

Star, do you happen to have what items you were deconning?

I'm working on a list of what prefixes and suffixes on weapons result in what kind of essences currently.

I would guess that the list coincides with the school of the appropriate shard when you recraft (since that is supposed to be how the system works) but since there are a lot of shards not yet in the game, i figured it would be nice to have a community list.

No i wasn't keeping track of that unfortunately. It slows you down a ton even just writing down the yields heh.

[Zero_Tolerance]

Star, do you happen to have what items you were deconning?

I'm working on a list of what prefixes and suffixes on weapons result in what kind of essences currently.

I would guess that the list coincides with the school of the appropriate shard when you recraft (since that is supposed to be how the system works) but since there are a lot of shards not yet in the game, i figured it would be nice to have a community list.

Maybe check this out: http://ddowiki.com/page/Full_Crafting_System_Item_Deconstruction#Prefix

[pal_sch]

I'm working on a list of what prefixes and suffixes on weapons result in what kind of essences currently.Is this what you are after? (http://ddowiki.com/page/Full_Crafting_System_Item_Deconstruction)

In any case;
Lithic, those numbers for the level 5 fixes look really strange. I wonder if it has anything to do with how many greater shards you get? Eyeballing the data it looks like several different distributions overlaid, unless it's just really strangely programmed or a total fluke of the RNG. 100 isn't that big a dataset...

Going to have to collect a lot more numbers to answer a totally trivial question, aren't I?

[stoerm]

Yeah that makes sense. I get so many lessers.

Using my hagglebard to decon. His new loggout spot is that house k pub.

(OT) Logouts are fast now everywhere, not just pubs. Most of my characters are now camped in the crafting hall since it has a banker, mailbox and auction house in close proximity.

[porq]

I'm curious about the distribution of greater essences and the chance to get them out of an item, you didn't happen to get that data also did you?



(OT) Logouts are fast now everywhere, not just pubs. Most of my characters are now camped in the crafting hall since it has a banker, mailbox and auction house in close proximity.


But nowhere to sell. arg! My mule toons are all living there too.

[Ungood]

I've kept track of the last 100 deconstructions of each level of item. Lvl 3-5 are done, not sure I'll bother with level 1-2 as they are 1-3 lesser + chance of 1 greater, and 2-6 lesser + chance of 1-2 greaters respectively.

It looks like the level of the deconstruction is also the max number of greater essences you can get (a lvl 4 can get up to 4, a level 3 can get up to 3, etc)

Level 3:
5 to 12 lesser essences (Avg 8.12)
Chance to get 1-3 greaters.

Distribution: (first number is number of essences, second number is number of times this number occured in 100 deconstructs)
05 07
06 07
07 21
08 21
09 30
10 06
11 06
12 02

1d8+4 works, but the distribution suggest something like 50d24/10

Level 4:
12 to 21 Lesser Essences (Avg: 16.22)
Chance to get 1-4 Greater Essences

Distribution:
12 03
13 08
14 10
15 19
16 18
17 17
18 09
19 05
20 08
21 03

1d10+11, 3d4+9, and 9d2+3 work. The distribution looks more like 3d4+9 to me. Someone with more math skills can likely find out for real.

Level 5:
24 to 38 Lesser Essences (Avg: 31.63)
Chance to get 1-5 Greater Essences

Distribution:
24 01
25 02
26 02
27 04
28 10
29 01
30 13
31 04
32 22
33 10
34 15
35 09
36 02
37 02
38 01

2d8+22 seems to work. Not sure why 29 and 31 have so few appearances though.

Hope this was usefull to someone else, took a while heh.

Very informative. Thank you.

This was what I was looking at however.

When I did Deconstruction. I noted what I was deconstruction, and what is paired to.

The example below is about par of the course unfortunately.

First I take an item that has a notable ability, in this I used Ghost Touch (because it was easy to get)

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z166/Ungood_Images/DDO/DDOCraftingStep1.jpg

Then, while I could have taken off the other part, I was looking at a return ratio anyway, so, I went with what I could pair up with.

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z166/Ungood_Images/DDO/DDOCraftingStep2.jpg

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z166/Ungood_Images/DDO/DDOCraftingStep3.jpg

As you can see, I rolled a crit (20 on a D20, a 5% chance to happen)

But when compared to what it takes to make a Ghost Touch shard, the exchange is really drummed down a bit too much if you ask me.

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z166/Ungood_Images/DDO/DDOCraftingStep4.jpg

But all in all, what you have posted Star is very informative! Thank you, I'll be using that as a guide in the future as I deconstruct.

[Lithic]

I'm curious about the distribution of greater essences and the chance to get them out of an item, you didn't happen to get that data also did you?

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I did not write everything down, but It seems you can get a maximum number of greater essences equal to the level of the item. So a level 5 deconstruction can get you up to 5, and a level 3 can get up to 3. As for the ratios, it seems about evenly distributed, though I didn't get enough greater shards to really make any solid conclusions about that. I was just checking to see which number of greater shards were possible (got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 for lvl 5 decons, got 1, 3, 4 for lvl 4 decons, 1-3 for lvl 3, 1-2 for lvl 2, and only ever 1 for a lvl 1 decon).