Want to multiclass my Paladin

[Whitehairguy]

Is this the right forum for that?

Either way, like the subject says, I'd like to multiclass my guy but don't know where to go. He's a lvl 10 human paladin with the below stats. Let me have your best ideas and thank you in advanced.


STR 20
DEX 12
CON 16
INT 14
WIS 14
CHA 17

[Uska]

if you multiclass you give up the capstone which is nice, and since your not doing it at first lvl you really dont want to do rogue, you can do a lvl of fighter or two for feats but you need to look at some of the builds posted elsewhere on the fourm multiclassing without a plan is a disaster waiting to happen. with your stats I dont think monk is a good option either

[pie2655]

DOnt multiclass unless u planned on it from lvl 1.

[Uska]

DOnt multiclass unless u planned on it from lvl 1.

This is proably best

[Tumarek]

only thi g i can see working with what you have is 2 levels monk... you get evasion, some ac and a few stances...

mainly evasion, with your charisma you can get great saves out of the deal and make it work.

[pie2655]

only thi g i can see working with what you have is 2 levels monk... you get evasion, some ac and a few stances...

mainly evasion, with your charisma you can get great saves out of the deal and make it work.

He'd have to use cloth armor and ki weapons then and with 2 lvls of monk would be less effective. stances only work when centered.

[PwnHammer40K]

The Paladin Capstone Enhancement (that you get at Paladin 20) is one of the best in the game. It gives you extra damage vs. almost every mob in the game, with any weapon, and magically lets every weapon bypass DR/Good.

Really awesome to have plain Banishing/Vorpal weapons start doing more damage per hit, or Metallines becoming boss beaters.

[Kinerd]

Is this the right forum for that?

Either way, like the subject says, I'd like to multiclass my guy but don't know where to go. He's a lvl 10 human paladin with the below stats. Let me have your best ideas and thank you in advanced.It would help if you can say why you want to multiclass.

Also, the most important stats are your base stats + tomes, those without any other source of bonus such as enhancement. Without those it's hard to advise further.

[toughguyjoe]

He'd have to use cloth armor and ki weapons then and with 2 lvls of monk would be less effective. stances only work when centered.

Eh, I usually just kept some wraps on my hotbar, swapped into Jidz tet'ka and the wraps, with fire stance for some healing, then swapped back to my Min II rapiers or Lit II rapiers and my normal bracers and go to town.

The stances don't thrill me that much at low level, so I don't use them, but keeping to Robes/Outfits you keep the evasion, the bonus feats, the good saves and the wisdom to AC. Not bad.

For this build though...I'm not so into it. Gotta plan from level 1!

[Whitehairguy]

Mostly want to multiclass because I'm bored of tank/kill stuff/maybe heal myself/repeat.

[Kourier]

Mostly want to multiclass because I'm bored of tank/kill stuff/maybe heal myself/repeat.

What would you multiclass that would change that?

[Kinerd]

I think it would benefit you to roll a separate character and make it a wizard to offer you a different playing experience. Let me be clear: I do not advocate multiclassing a paladin and a wizard under any circumstances. I am advocating leaving your paladin alone and starting a wizard. You might like the arcane style a lot more, or you might gain a new appreciation for the melee style, or both, or neither. If neither, it's possible DDO isn't the game for you.

[Failedlegend]

Ok here's the list to keep it simple

1. NEVER multiclass after you've started playing unless you REALLY know what your doing

2. If you do plan on making a multi-class toon figure out how your doing so 1-20 before even thinking of what to name your character (even pure toons can benefit from this) and be sure to post the FULL build on the forums for mostly good feedback (its ussually quite easy to to tell who the trolls are)

3. If your finding you don't like the way Paladin is working for you, roll a NEW toon no amount of multiclassing will change the way it functions without completely gimping your toon

[unbongwah]

Mostly want to multiclass because I'm bored of tank/kill stuff/maybe heal myself/repeat.
Then you should probably be looking into making a new char who can do whatever other stuff interests you, not gimping your paladin by MCing willy-nilly.

[Khumbaaba]

Pure Palllys are awesome.

If you want to change your role in the party, do as suggested and roll up something else.

I ran into a similar problem on my first (gimped) pally. Rolled up a CC Wiz, lots of fun and a very different play experience.

[elixer1]

Multiclassing takes prep and thought, and pure Pally's are great. If you are at the itch to do more, start a new toon, don't risk wrecking a current one. Or take advantage of tomorrow's lesser heart sale and remake the toon into whatever you like (with limitations).

[Whitehairguy]

Someone said something about posting all my stats. Is that including any buffs/feats/enhancements?

Also, I've decided against multiclassing and making another toon. But I heard you can go back and change around with your action points. Is there maybe something/some place better I could put those? I can post that if needed.

[Superspeed_Hi5]

Someone said something about posting all my stats. Is that including any buffs/feats/enhancements?

Also, I've decided against multiclassing and making another toon. But I heard you can go back and change around with your action points. Is there maybe something/some place better I could put those? I can post that if needed.

Base + Inherent only. No increases from buffs, spells, airships, or items.

[Whitehairguy]

Base/INH
STR 17/2
DEX 10/2
CON 14/2
INT 9/2
WIS 12/2
CHA 14/2

[Kinerd]

You would struggle a great deal with trapping if you multiclassed into a rogue with those stats. I think you should stick with your decision not to multiclass.

The main thing to do with your action points is to get a Prestige Enhancement. For paladins you won't get any fundamental changes in your play style, you will just be better at doing whatever it is you want to do. Paladins are also advised to get Divine Might and Divine Sacrifice enhancements, which serve the purpose of increasing your DPS and making combat more interesting.

[Failedlegend]

Someone said something about posting all my stats. Is that including any buffs/feats/enhancements?

Also, I've decided against multiclassing and making another toon. But I heard you can go back and change around with your action points. Is there maybe something/some place better I could put those? I can post that if needed.

This is what people are looking for (or something similar) you can get the builder used to make this here http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO/


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.8.0
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

repeating multi
Level 20 Lawful Good Drow Male
(6 Fighter \ 12 Rogue \ 2 Ranger)
Hit Points: 250
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 13
Reflex: 20
Will: 5

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 14 16
Dexterity 18 24
Constitution 12 12
Intelligence 16 16
Wisdom 8 8
Charisma 10 10

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 8 30
Bluff 0 1
Concentration 1 2
Diplomacy 0 1
Disable Device 7 34
Haggle 4 4
Heal -1 -1
Hide 8 23
Intimidate 0 1
Jump 6 13
Listen -1 1
Move Silently 8 30
Open Lock 8 37
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 3 7
Search 7 32
Spot 3 28
Swim 2 3
Tumble 8 11
Use Magic Device 4 23

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Piercing Weapons


Level 4 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Finesse


Level 5 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Point Blank Shot


Level 6 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Rapid Reload


Level 7 (Rogue)


Level 8 (Rogue)


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Rogue)


Level 11 (Rogue)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Piercing Weapons


Level 13 (Rogue)


Level 14 (Rogue)


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 16 (Rogue)


Level 17 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Crippling Strike


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot


Level 19 (Rogue)


Level 20 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost III
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost IV
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Drow Weapon Damage I
Enhancement: Drow Weapon Damage II
Enhancement: Rogue Acid Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Kensei Rapier Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Rogue Mechanic I
Enhancement: Rogue Mechanic II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training IV
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device I
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device II
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device III
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device IV
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock I
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock II
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock III
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense II

[Whitehairguy]

Wanted to thank everyone for the help!