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b_winter
02-21-2011, 08:14 PM
Vizzini: ". . . Inconceivable!"

Inigo Montoya: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

-from the movie "The Princess Bride"



Saw an LFM up for Genesis Point today, with a caveat to the effect of "Know the Quest. In Progress. No Bads." Level 18-20. All classes open to apply.

For the sake of context, I'm on my Lv 20 tactics fighter: Kensei III, Heavy Pick specced, reasonable stunning blow DC (44), Min II equipped, Bloodstone, Minos, GFL, Dragontouched etc, etc. I've run Shavarath quests often. As far as I know, (where I'm known, at least) I have a good reputation in-game - several capped toons which are all well built, well equipped, and always stocked with the appropriate scrolls, potions, etc; I lead and run successful raids and epics; and I make an effort to be polite and generous - I tip or reimburse healers as is fitting, etc. All this, quite honestly, not to brag, but to set up the problem.

I hit the LFM. I wait. And wait. And wait.

So I send a tell, to the effect of "perhaps if you aren't accepting people anymore, you should take your LFM down."

The reply: "read the LFM"

Me: "I did . . . your point being? Are there some recent semantic changes I should know about?"

The reply: "ctrl-M"

Me: "again - your point being . . .?"

And that was it. Now, understand, I'm not all torn up about it. I am, however, curious. There appears to be some semantic ambiguity happening. What I understood to be implied by the exchange was that my toon, or I, was a "bad." It got me wondering what, exactly, that was. Or, perhaps, to be more precise, if I was, then what, or who, was not? In the end, the only conclusion I could come to was that "bad", functionally speaking, meant nothing more that "whoever I do not accept to my LFM." Because, I reasoned, if my toons were bad, then whose toons weren't? FWIW, I MyDDO'd the leader of the group, who, as it turned out was first life (like me) and much less well geared.

Perhaps I can have some community input: what is a bad, and if it turns out that I am (Oh, horror of horrors!) in fact one, what penance must I do to become one of the chosen?

I'll start. If I was to define what a "Bad" is (and honestly, not all that concerned except as a theoretical exercise), I would say (a) either someone who gains and maintains a reputation as a less-than-competent player, or (b) someone whose toon is obviously gimped (like a 10 INT wizard, or really incompatible multiclass) or perhaps (c) not geared for the task at hand, although really, the lack of gear can be remedied very easily (no Harry Beaters in the Shroud, for example).

Thoughts?

(Mundjarn, Rysdan, and Khrysaor, on Cannith)

asphodeli
02-21-2011, 11:05 PM
Sounds like you just saved yourself from a bad PUG. no wait, the leader saved you from a bad PUG with himself. :)

Seriously though, if you've not heard it - MyDDO is *not* a *definite* indicator of a good/bad player

TheBroken_JPK
02-21-2011, 11:33 PM
Your weapons need to be upgraded. dps prefix +5 heavy picks of pure good. You're dps you need to maximize it. If mobs aren't being held are picks really the premiere choice?

Avoid quest that say "know quest". Its usually ran by an incompetent person who needs 5 others to pike him.

Rineth
02-21-2011, 11:40 PM
First clue: if it says know the quest I think that means the leader isn't competent enough to know the quest himself. Personally, I avoid those LFMs like the plague.

Agreed. Those LFMs might as well just say "need guide".

DevHead
02-21-2011, 11:46 PM
I just asked a WoW player what it means, and he says it "is usually a phrase by elitist ******s that don't want any bad players".

That is verbatim, sir.

Did you hit on this guy's sister or something? I'm assuming you've played enough at least get out of Korthos. :P

Bozone
02-22-2011, 12:01 AM
BADS stands for:

b winter &
analogous
durable
scene-stealers

maybe?

Sorry, best I could come up with on short notice.