Tasty Ham: Urban Myth or Gear Threat?

[whitepawn]

Confirmation or it's a myth.

Chaos balls, as found in HoX and Xorian, can destroy a piece of gear and leave a Tasty Ham in your inventory as a replacement. Anything not bound and attuned is game from the Cure Serious Pot off the top of the 100 stack to the +5 Anarchic Burst of Greater Construct Bane you just bought but didn't have a chance to bind yet...

[ArkoHighStar]

it does not destroy gear but can give you a tasty ham

[Club'in]

I've run into those balls hundreds of times, and have never noticed losing a piece of equipment. That doesn't mean it doesn't/hasn't happened. Just that if it can happen, I think the circumstances required, or the percentage chance to occur, is pretty low.

If you're worried about this, just make sure you have plenty of inventory spots available. As far as I know, Tasty Hams are the only possible item acquisition from a close encounter with a chaos orb.

[stoolcannon]

Last week I was running hound on my paladin and got hit with one of those and it destroyed my offhand Min II khopesh. I have a bug report filed but so far haven't received any responses.

[Club'in]

Last week I was running hound on my paladin and got hit with one of those and it destroyed my offhand Min II khopesh. I have a bug report filed but so far haven't received any responses.

Yikes! That really sucks, man. Can you relay any other info? Was your inventory full? Do you know what spell was cast on you by the ball?

Oh, and did you check the buy back section in a vendor? I've heard, but never tested, that items you purposely destroy in a quest will be in your buy back list.

[NaturalHazard]

Last week I was running hound on my paladin and got hit with one of those and it destroyed my offhand Min II khopesh. I have a bug report filed but so far haven't received any responses.

are you serious?

[Irinis]

Lost a +2 holy burst of enfeebling rapier about a year ago in Xorian Cypher. Not a myth. Never keep ham around so the weapon was taken and I was given ham... whether the ball changed it into ham or that was two random occurances I don't know.

EDIT: Not kidding. Have gained ham on several occasions around chaos orbs and not noticed anything missing (could have been just pots or arrows as people stated), but that one run in Xorian I lost a weapon, it was not in buyback, couldn't find it anywhere, just gone, and had ham in my inventory that wasn't there before.

If it hasn't happened to you you're lucky. I'm just glad it was something I would have vendored anyway.

[phalaeo]

it does not destroy gear but can give you a tasty ham

Pretty sure it can- have heard of ppl getting Girds and weapons hammed.

[suitepotato]

Weird. I usually charge right through those balls and have never lost a single thing.

[MartinusWyllt]

I know I have gained about 10 tasty hams and I have not noticed anything missing.

[NaturalHazard]

Weird. I usually charge right through those balls and have never lost a single thing.

same, im not going to from now on, whats scary is that it seems it does it to equiped items as well, I know it sounds sad stoolcannon but it is kinda funny picturing it, your holding a greensteel sword one second the next its a leg of ham!!

[PopeJual]

I know I have gained about 10 tasty hams and I have not noticed anything missing.

It usually eats arrows or CMW potions or some other piece of garbage.

Somtimes it hits things that are a little more precious.

[ArkoHighStar]

Pretty sure it can- have heard of ppl getting Girds and weapons hammed.



It usually eats arrows or CMW potions or some other piece of garbage.

Somtimes it hits things that are a little more precious.


The second quote would explain why it is so rare and not well known

[phalaeo]

The second quote would explain why it is so rare and not well known

Oh yeah, it usually gets Arrows, Rage pots and other junk loot.

EDIT: Is this actually incentive for people to run out and get Curse/Resto pots? I hope so! :p

[stoolcannon]

Portions of my above post are entirely ficticious, any resemblance to actual people, places or events are purely coincidental.

[Lorz]

Funny...i have collected over 100 tasty hams from Invaders and Hounds and have never lost an item.


/ah i see some where being funny and others are just making stuff up....nice to see who does what.....as stated have actually gone out of my way to get hit just for the hams....no losses in 5 years of testing....i will test so more.

[Club'in]

Portions of my above post are entirely ficticious, any resemblance to actual people, places or events are purely coincidental.

Alright, *** are you babbling about? This could potentially be serious %^#@, but now you might be saying "ha ha, got you guys, I didn't really lose anything". If so, really uncool, man. Please clarify. :confused:

[doubledge]

It can take your items too! it took my large scale....

[NaturalHazard]

It can take your items too! it took my large scale....

zomg from right out of your ingrediants bag?

[pizzandew]

You will emote a "/clap 2" when you are 'hammed'.

I've been hammed at least 100 times and not lost anything aside of a few HPs from polar ray and other harmful spells.

Evasion + High Saves @ Invaders or Cypher = Hamfarm! :D

[AZgreentea]

I was running Invaders! yesterday and found a ham in my inventory. I was wondering where it came from. I didnt notice anything missing.

[doubledge]

zomg from right out of your ingrediants bag?

yeah, right out of the ingredients bag. now i have a ham, sitting in my invetory.



i also think i have lost locust husks as well, that would make sense why i have only 1 left.
true story, the second bit

[NaturalHazard]

yeah, right out of the ingredients bag. now i have a ham, sitting in my invetory.



i also think i have lost locust husks as well, that would make sense why i have only 1 left.
true story, the second bit

did you submit a bug report? is this a bug or wai?

[doubledge]

did you submit a bug report? is this a bug or wai?

wow, you get worked up easy. i was kidding with everything but the husks. that, i'm not so sure about, read the ENTIRE POST next time

[ORIGINALBAG0]

Oh yeah, it usually gets Arrows, Rage pots and other junk loot.

EDIT: Is this actually incentive for people to run out and get Curse/Resto pots? I hope so! :p

OG, Pallai noooooooooo...

Why it does it always have to be a curse pots thing with you?

In response to the OP, I'm reasonably certain it starts hamming your unbound **** starting with the top left slot of your first inventory page and moving on like you're reading a book. Most (organized) people don't notice it because they keep things like spell components, pots, and other unequipable items on the first page so they can't be moved out of place. These blessed souls don't notice, because it only takes one item at a time or one out of a stack at a time. Unorganized people (like myself) lose weapons and equipment. Lost my first Planar Gird in Xorian Cypher mere moments after acquiring it. Best part: I STILL HAVEN'T LEARNED MY LESSON.

How to use this to your advantage: Strip down, buy a TON of arrows from the general vendor in the harbor, and run through the orbs for hours at a time. Instant glorious hamfall!

[doubledge]

a screenshot would help. how do you take them?

[ORIGINALBAG0]

a screenshot would help. how do you take them?

ctrl P

Not sure how you plan on screenshotting it, though. Seems like a very difficult thing to capture with any reliability. There's no message saying "Congratulations! Your blank greensteel greataxe has turned into delicious ham!" You just clap and jump in the air in a very improbable way while running and it's gone.

[doubledge]

ctrl P

Not sure how you plan on screenshotting it, though. Seems like a very difficult thing to capture with any reliability. There's no message saying "Congratulations! Your blank greensteel greataxe has turned into delicious ham!" You just clap and jump in the air in a very improbable way while running and it's gone.

gonna go make a gimp, give it 100 masterwork arrows, and have it run around in a cleared xorian cypher instance. screenshotting the loss of items.

[phalaeo]

OG, Pallai noooooooooo...

Why it does it always have to be a curse pots thing with you?



Because it does. Deal. :p

[Ganolyn]

If this is true, it is just wrong. It should maybe damage the items if they are not stackables, but stealing them outright is just wrong considering that maybe one out of one hundred random drops actually nets you anything worth keeping.

[Teslana]

Confirmation or it's a myth.

Chaos balls, as found in HoX and Xorian, can destroy a piece of gear and leave a Tasty Ham in your inventory as a replacement. Anything not bound and attuned is game from the Cure Serious Pot off the top of the 100 stack to the +5 Anarchic Burst of Greater Construct Bane you just bought but didn't have a chance to bind yet...

Has this been thoroughly investigated yet? Has anyone got a verified, tested answer as to whether the chaos blobs are destroying items in inventories? If not, get thee hence monks and gather ye hams for the greater good! I'd really love to know if this is true - might explain where my ioun stone went...

[Fennario]

Silly adventuremers. Don't you know you am suposseded to speak like this whenevamer talking bout tasty ham! Hope you all get gigantamic facebash.

[Missing_Minds]

Silly adventuremers. Don't you know you am suposseded to speak like this whenevamer talking bout tasty ham! Hope you all get gigantamic facebash.

Kargon left before F2P so there is a whole generation that doesn't know about the one player that actually got his name in game.

[stille_nacht]

who was kargon? the first ever character?

[fuzzy1guy]

Get naked. Bank everything. Fill all slots with starter cure light wounds from the IQ.

Bring hireling to keep you alive off to the side.

Go stand in some orbs somewhere. You get lots of ham.

It works. Its entertaining. Once or twice.

[NUDS]

So is it actually a myth? The losing equipment/items bit :P

I always tumble around in the groovy orbs and I have hundreds of Tasty Ham (nom nom!) in my bank. Haven't noticed anything of value missing.


On second thought, would this be related to the fact that some of the random effects include damaging spells which would destroy random items?

[Razcar]

who was kargon? the first ever character?He was a guy playing a human barbarian (among others) on Sarlona. He kept his funny barbarian in-game persona up on the forums as well. Or maybe it was all real...?

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=139240

[fuzzy1guy]

it SEEMS to hit consumables more than anything. i've never noticed an item missing before anyway.

And i have seen it eat a major mem pot because i happened to see the # of pots go down on the hotbar when the orb hit. And i got a ham.


But i wouldnt rule out that it can eat anything unbound. It is CHAOS after all.

[NUDS]

Get naked. Bank everything. Fill all slots with starter cure light wounds from the IQ.

Bring hireling to keep you alive off to the side.

Go stand in some orbs somewhere. You get lots of ham.

It works. Its entertaining. Once or twice.

I think I will try that now :P

[Shaamis]

who was kargon? the first ever character?

Kargon was a player and forum poster who role-played his forum posts with a peculiar lisp; and his posts were helpful as well as hilarious. He captured the essence of DDO and our admiration.

I hope to be the second character in DDO to have an item named after him: "Shaamis' Best Brew" or "Shaamis' Everfull Mug"

I still have a long way to go however to get to Kargon's level.

[countfitz]

I had this happen to me. I have an entire hotbar filled with weapons, played xorian cipher, came out with a ham, thought "oh cool" and a day or two later noticed the hotbar had an empty space. Thought "hmm.." didn't make much of it. While it was a weapon that I thought important enough to hotbar, I can't remember what it was, so I don't feel too bad. It wasn't my lit II or any other crafted weapon, so I'm okay with it.

[Astraghal]

You will emote a "/clap 2" when you are 'hammed'.

I've been hammed at least 100 times and not lost anything aside of a few HPs from polar ray and other harmful spells.

Evasion + High Saves @ Invaders or Cypher = Hamfarm! :D

Took me months to figure out what that was. :D

Edit - Take all these comments with a grain of salt, I have never lost anything from running through chaos balls and I'm sure if people did, there would be a huge outcry about it.

Just like people who talk about losing ingredients bags or other valuables, in the end it turns out that they either misplaced them or accidentally vendored/destroyed them.

[Khanyth]

I've heard of it taking an inventory spot.... that's wai.

But an used spot? that's madness and shouldn't be wai, imho

[Cauthey]

I've heard of it taking an inventory spot.... that's wai.

But an used spot? that's madness and shouldn't be wai, imho

We are dealing with portals to Xoriat, the Realm of Madness (http://eberron.wikia.com/wiki/Xoriat), here. Madness is exactly what's involved.

[SirAggravator]

I was curious and tested it just now in XC normal just now.

I filled my inventory space with Siberys Dragonshard fragments and assorted junk.
Locked all of the items down and stood on an Orb until I got a ham.
I got the clap clap emote and the error
"Inventory Error
All inventory slots are full

Tasty Ham
"

I got a screenshot which I will upload later.
edit http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a321/aggravator/untitled.jpg

Next I unlocked one item in my backpack - then several weapons.
No loss of item just the same Inventory full error message.

[Astraghal]

I was curious and tested it just now in XC normal just now.

I filled my inventory space with Siberys Dragonshard fragments and assorted junk.
Locked all of the items down and stood on an Orb until I got a ham.
I got the clap clap emote and the error
"Inventory Error
All inventory slots are full

Tasty Ham
"

I got a screenshot which I will upload later.
edit http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a321/aggravator/untitled.jpg

Next I unlocked one item in my backpack - then several weapons.
No loss of item just the same Inventory full error message.

Thanks for taking the time to verify that.

[kinar]

Thanks for taking the time to verify that.

incidentally enough, I was just testing this in XC as well.

When the inventory is full, I also got the "Inventory Full" message. So then I destroyed an item to free up space.

After about 10 mins of standing in that first orb, I checked back through my inventory and had a stack of 5 hams and was missing 1 heal scroll (off a stack of 98) and nothing else. I sat there for another 20 mins with zero loss of items and another 10 hams showed up.

I'm not sure exactly when the heal scroll was destroyed but I am certain it happened (I ran a fraps through my inventory when I started testing). I can't be certain it was tied to a ham incident but I don't know of any other spell the orbs cast that would potentially destroy something in my inventory.

[Dark_Helmet]

Kargon was a player and forum poster who role-played his forum posts with a peculiar lisp; and his posts were helpful as well as hilarious. He captured the essence of DDO and our admiration.

I hope to be the second character in DDO to have an item named after him: "Shaamis' Best Brew" or "Shaamis' Everfull Mug"

I still have a long way to go however to get to Kargon's level.

You are doing it wrong.

You need to take some tasty bacon treats over to Turbine HQ... food bribery gets you anything you want there! ;)

[donfilibuster]

This sounds familiar, could it be that you swapped out the weapon and the game tought the slot was still empty?

If it is anything like the abbot's bug where items that drop on exit are said to cause the wrong slot to drop then it'd be very very hard to replicate.

Lost scrolls and pots could be from item damage so those don't count.

[Angelus_dead]

Kargon left before F2P so there is a whole generation that doesn't know about the one player that actually got his name in game.
One of the copper Festivult rewards was also named for a player.

[Tom_Hunters]

it won't destroy your stuff
but a ham is awarded from time to time
you notice it when u suddenly clap your hands and do sth like celebrating a goal, all the while u're still moving/running

[JollySwagMan]

On second thought, would this be related to the fact that some of the random effects include damaging spells which would destroy random items?

I'm curious about this too

And I always thought it was awarded for closing the portals, the clapping thing makes more sense now..doh

[Teslana]

incidentally enough, I was just testing this in XC as well.

When the inventory is full, I also got the "Inventory Full" message. So then I destroyed an item to free up space.

After about 10 mins of standing in that first orb, I checked back through my inventory and had a stack of 5 hams and was missing 1 heal scroll (off a stack of 98) and nothing else. I sat there for another 20 mins with zero loss of items and another 10 hams showed up.

I'm not sure exactly when the heal scroll was destroyed but I am certain it happened (I ran a fraps through my inventory when I started testing). I can't be certain it was tied to a ham incident but I don't know of any other spell the orbs cast that would potentially destroy something in my inventory.

Thanks so much to the both of you for testing it out. Losing things like potions to damage is pretty much a risk anywhere in the game, so I'm totally cool with that (still "gah!" every time an invis pot gets evaporated though, heh). Still haven't solved the mystery of my ioun stone, however - time to give my TR caches, shared bank, multitude of alt banks and inventories, etc. a good clear out. Hoarding a kingdom's-worth of junk is waaay more likely to be my problem, rather than thieving chaos blobs from another dimension.

[Irinis]

Lost a +2 holy burst of enfeebling rapier about a year ago in Xorian Cypher. Not a myth. Never keep ham around so the weapon was taken and I was given ham... whether the ball changed it into ham or that was two random occurances I don't know.

EDIT: Not kidding. Have gained ham on several occasions around chaos orbs and not noticed anything missing (could have been just pots or arrows as people stated), but that one run in Xorian I lost a weapon, it was not in buyback, couldn't find it anywhere, just gone, and had ham in my inventory that wasn't there before.

If it hasn't happened to you you're lucky. I'm just glad it was something I would have vendored anyway.

I checked buyback, I checked my bank, everything. It was just gone. It never appeared on another character mysteriously or anything. Just. Gone.

But thanks for the neg, whoever you are.

[adam1oftheround]

Xoriat Orbs can give you Tasty Ham. You will see an animation of Clapping Twice and Cheering with a fist over your head to signal this has happened.

Before going into a quest with Xoriat Orbs take a Screen Shot of each of your packs. If the ham replaces an item, your gear got ham nabbed, if not, it was a free ham.

If a free ham, it will stack with other hams, if not..... at least your screen shot can tell you what you lost.

Cheers, and eat up.

[Bodic]

who was kargon? the first ever character?


Kargon also went into a dreadful rage when he went intot he tavern adn found that his favorite meal of Tasty Ham was missing.

He destroyed said tavern, and everything in his path until coming upon a mighty ArchMage which granted him the power to restore tasty ham back to his favorite eating establishment. Why do you think that Harbor area was closed for construction. Kargon had destroyed everything.