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Unreliable
02-16-2011, 02:30 PM
For a long time the Epic Ring of Spell Storing has been debated as being the best epic item in the game (at least for casters)... But is it?

3 Clickies of 105-600 SP every rest (like having an extra 3 baubles with you)

But, if you do manage to get one of these prized rings, you are essentially adding 1050 (average) SP to your mana pool on the character you put it on.

You can think of this 2 ways.

First of all: you can think of this as an escape, when you now have to drink a mana pot you will no longer have to drink that mana pot, just use a clicky of your Spellstore ring. The question here is, how often do you really even need to chug mana pots? Not that often, at least in my case. With tons of spellsaving clickies + abbot gloves, I very rarely ever have to use mana pots (only when there is an emergency, when things go bad). So yeah, you can think of it as a safety, and save those few mana pots a week that you would normally use with that Epic Spellstore ring instead.

Secondly: This is the thought where you now have an epic spellstore ring, and you now feel like you have 1050 extra mana to just WASTE every rest. If you think of it this way though, then most likely you are going to start burning all your mana on spells and abilites that you really dont need to. What happens here is while you do end up having an extra 1050 mana to burn, you waste your mana much more quickly, so in turn when you need to cast spells you need, you have already wasted all your mana. This leads to chuging more mana pots then you would have before...

These are just the two ways I can see if my caster ever did get the epic SS ring, and personally it isn't worth the cost in time / and or items to bribe the shard if you manage to get in a group where the shard is pulled (1/2222 chance in the pre raid, 1/25000 chance in the raid, per person). I saw someone offering 5 MILLION PLAT for the shard, but thats 500 mana pots... It would take me forever to chug 500 mana pots, even if I wanted to waste mana.

So I am pretty much just talking about how I view this item, was wondering if people see it differently. Do you see it as the best Epic item in the game (for casters)?

If anyone does have an Epic Spellstore Ring, how do you use it? Do you think of it as the best epic item in the game now that you have one? Was it worth the grind/crazy bribe to get it if you did?

Cyr
02-16-2011, 03:27 PM
It takes nothing away from your character except an inventory slot for 1050 average SP per shrine. So yes it is the best epic item in the game.

Any item that gives you a very useful bonus without taking a body slot is awesome.

Unreliable
02-16-2011, 03:43 PM
It takes nothing away from your character except an inventory slot for 1050 average SP per shrine. So yes it is the best epic item in the game.

Any item that gives you a very useful bonus without taking a body slot is awesome.

Yes but if you were to choose to only have 1 epic item in the game, would that be the item you would choose?

I guess that's the kind of "best" I was thinking of.

Schmoe
02-16-2011, 03:45 PM
Yes but if you were to choose to only have 1 epic item in the game, would that be the item you would choose?


Yes.

EyeRekon
02-16-2011, 03:56 PM
So your point is: You get +1000 SP/rest how would it affect you? Is it worth trading a fortune for?

We'd all get to cast more spells obviously. Less risk-benefit evaluations for SP management need to occur - Should I cast this or wait... don't want to pot. You can take more risks without it becoming as costly on resources. In fact it might even make you more tolerant of pugs - increasing your socialization. You might keep Heighten & Quicken on more of the time - increasing your yield of spells you would have cast anyway.

It has the capacity to smoothe over and compensate for some accidents, blunders, and gimpyness of others in your party. It makes you even more of an asset to a given party.

Is it all worth trading for? I think so.

Roman
02-16-2011, 05:29 PM
This items usefulness is greatly diminished by cheap TP store pots and the stacks or major pots that my melee seem to accumulate. Now in a situation where pots and shrines were rare then, yes, this would be an epic item.

Unreliable
02-16-2011, 07:34 PM
This items usefulness is greatly diminished by cheap TP store pots and the stacks or major pots that my melee seem to accumulate. Now in a situation where pots and shrines were rare then, yes, this would be an epic item.

I completely agree with you here.
+1

Sirea
02-16-2011, 07:38 PM
This items usefulness is greatly diminished by cheap TP store pots and the stacks or major pots that my melee seem to accumulate. Now in a situation where pots and shrines were rare then, yes, this would be an epic item.

Hey, if you would rather flush money down the drain than try to get in-game items that would negate you having to buy/use those pots in the first place, more power to you. Turbine thanks you for paying their salaries. Must be nice to have disposable income.

Unreliable
02-16-2011, 07:41 PM
Hey, if you would rather flush money down the drain than try to get in-game items that would negate you having to buy/use those pots in the first place, more power to you. Turbine thanks you for paying their salaries. Must be nice to have disposable income.

Some people would rather pay $.05 (5 cents) for a mana pot 2x as good as the in-game one, which tends to auction for about 10-18k plat.

I guess everyone has their different opinions about the store though, but IMO mana pots are one of the few items in the store that are "worth" the price (when on sale, of course).

kernal42
02-16-2011, 07:52 PM
Any other item in the game could be overshadowed by better equipment. The eRoSS cannot.

For example: If you have the eRoSS, is the Bauble still useful? Yes! Its value is not diminished despite the presence of better loot.

Cheers,
Kernal

SockMonkey
02-17-2011, 07:46 AM
I have one for my cleric, and yes its an amazing item. I can never use a pot again unless the run is a total gong show. I didnt grind for it, I got lucky. would I intentionaly grind for it?? I dont know, my views on epic items are if I get them I do and thats it.

patang01
02-17-2011, 07:59 AM
You have the talisman, epic talisman, bauble and epic spell storing ring. Those are the items I strive to get. I have the bauble, but I've yet to get any of the others. I rather use items than chug pots because there are a lot more stuff I rather use my money for, like TR stones and XP pots (when on sale). XP pots are by far the most expensive in the game.

I personally collect 100 Major pots and sell them (when I don't reimburst healers for costly runs). Also, it's possible to be more frugal in your average build if you also have a good source of SP, like starting out with lesser points in say Charisma on my FvS and more in Wisdom, Con and Str. And still end up with 2000+. Having that extra source of SP is a way to balance a build in different directions without shortchanging another feature.

I have the scroll of the epic spell storing ring; the hardest component to get and I've been grinding to get a seal and eventually shard. It'll probably be the most important part of my casters gear setup, other than dreamsplitter for highly functional symbol of persuasion.

Quikster
02-17-2011, 09:22 AM
If you have to bribe someone to get the shard, then yeah might not be worth it. If you come upon the shard in a more more altruistic manner, then it would prolly be more than worth it.

Also the the other items you mention arent exactly falling off trees, though they are likely easier to get then the EROSS.

Krag
02-17-2011, 09:37 AM
RoSS stacks with EVERYTHING.
Epic Marilith Chain uses the same slot as Red Dragon Armor. Epic Chaosblade uses the same slot as Min II, Lit II and Rad II. Epic Gloves of the Claw use the same slot as epic Charged Gauntlets.

Only RoSS can be used at the same time as every other item in the game.

sweez
02-17-2011, 09:46 AM
I have the scroll of the epic spell storing ring; the hardest component to get and I've been grinding to get a seal and eventually shard. It'll probably be the most important part of my casters gear setup, other than dreamsplitter for highly functional symbol of persuasion.

Uhh, since when is the scroll the hardest component to get?