Favor running build (post vet status)

[Dr_Kyrgenstein]

I've been running a lot of favor recently and it got me thinking as to which was the best toon to run now that I've unlocked veteran status, maximising favor per minute. Run time of the quests is an important factor which boiled down to barbarian/ranger and the speed boost enhancement that can give you, but on level 1/2 quests barbarians are going to give you more DPS. A barbarian is really the only choice here.
Soloing then becomes paramount, since either you're going to be running quests alone or leaving your new group buddies far behind you in your wake. That led me to multi-classing cleric for self-heal, and as a bonus self-buffing bulls strength, bless etc.
Here's the build, which is actually the first I designed myself, criticism welcome.


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Urssula Andress
Level 4 Neutral Good Human Female
(1 Barbarian \ 3 Cleric)
Hit Points: 64
Spell Points: 236
BAB: 3\3
Fortitude: 7
Reflex: 0
Will: 6

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 4)
Strength 18 18
Dexterity 8 8
Constitution 14 14
Intelligence 8 8
Wisdom 14 16
Charisma 8 8

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 4)
Balance 1 2
Bluff -1 -1
Concentration 4 8
Diplomacy -1 -1
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle -1 -1
Heal 2 3
Hide -1 -1
Intimidate -1 -1
Jump 8 8
Listen 2 3
Move Silently -1 -1
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 -1
Search -1 -1
Spot 2 3
Swim 6 6
Tumble 0 0
Use Magic Device n/a n/a

Level 1 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I


Level 2 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I


Level 3 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom I


Level 4 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Human Versatility II




It's a human build to benefit from the extra feat, stat increase in wisdom since I'm taking the cleric wisdom enhancement for the added spell points. Spare skill points thrown into swim to speed up swim time - note that this is a rinse and repeat toon, and will never go past level 4.

Spells I have readied are -

Lvl 1 - Bless, Protection from Evil, Protection from Fear
Lvl 2 - Bulls Strength, Protection from Energy

Appreciate any feedback on these too.

[red_cardinal]

Human or dwarf will do fine, better dwarf for cheap constitution.
Put wis up to 18 and str to 16, you want that Sound Burst to land on elite
kobolds and sahuagin.

[Bahgs]

For reasons that are now shrouded in mist (meaning I've slept since then), I tried a similar thing using both humans and dwarves and settled on the dwarf build. Mo betta hit points was probably my reasoning.

Edit - I also found the 18 WIS to work better, too. 16 STR (plus Bull's as appropriate) is plenty for the first 100 favor.

[Dr_Kyrgenstein]

The reason I went for a human build, is the bonus feat allowing both two-handed fighter and power attack + empower healing, which coupled with some extra heal enhancements gives me the ability to heal myself pretty effectively. You both seem to agree on the wisdom... So that's 18 wisdom with the stat increase and cleric wisdom enhancement up to 20 I presume? Interesting, though I find it's actually difficult to use all my spell points on low level quests. I've was gunning for as high a strength as I could get, giving me 26 raged with buff, but 24 is probably not so bad either. Thanks for the advice... *ponders*
Any way I need to run some more favor so I'll play around with her...

[simsiim]

here are some favor runner build ideas (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=278406), one of them does show something like yours

Most like using the dwarf 4barbarian
My personal favorite is the Human 2Barb/2Fighter w/DM of Passage


edit: I forgot to ask, is this just for the Dash to 100 favor build ?

[Dr_Kyrgenstein]

Yup it's only for 100 favor then rinse/repeat.

[Dysmetria]

I've been running a lot of favor recently and it got me thinking as to which was the best toon to run now that I've unlocked veteran status, maximising favor per minute. Run time of the quests is an important factor which boiled down to barbarian/ranger and the speed boost enhancement that can give you, but on level 1/2 quests barbarians are going to give you more DPS. A barbarian is really the only choice here.
Soloing then becomes paramount, since either you're going to be running quests alone or leaving your new group buddies far behind you in your wake. I'm confused, how does it maximize favor per minute to solo? Don't you need a second character to unlock those 11 quests for you on elite?

[jwdaniels]

I'm confused, how does it maximize favor per minute to solo? Don't you need a second character to unlock those 11 quests for you on elite?

Not if you're VIP - you can do it yourself at that point.

[FlyingTurtle]

I'd ditch the cleric levels for more DPS levels, and use a hireling for healing. Bind the "come to me" button to a reachable hotkey and spam it at regular intervals: you'll get your heals even if you're speeding down a corridor.

[Dysmetria]

Not if you're VIP - you can do it yourself at that point.I thought the point of farming favor for TP was to avoid spending money on TP. Isn't that why we are talking about this in the "Free Player" forum?

Paying $10 every month so that you can solo farm for 30-40 hours just to earn $10 worth of TP seems a bit...redundant, to put it nicely.

[Dr_Kyrgenstein]

I am not VIP, so I open quests on n/h/e, but grab a group as quick as possible to get into quests on elite. However since I'm running ahead in these, essentially I'm soloing unless there's another barb in with me. Got it down to about an hour running about half the quests on n/h/e, that said the build still maximises favor per min, though perhaps going pure DPS is the way to go, I'm trying out a ranger tempest build at the moment.

[Dysmetria]

I am not VIP, so I open quests on n/h/e, but grab a group as quick as possible to get into quests on elite. However since I'm running ahead in these, essentially I'm soloing unless there's another barb in with me. Got it down to about an hour running about half the quests on n/h/e, that said the build still maximises favor per min, though perhaps going pure DPS is the way to go, I'm trying out a ranger tempest build at the moment.I imagine it would be faster to level up a character on a second account, get it access to the elites for the 11 quests in the 100 favor run, and use it to run those quests since it will be as high a level and as uber geared as you want to make it.

Then multi-box/window in the disposable characters on the account you are farming tp for, so you can avoid doing normals/hards, or zerging ahead in groups that may not even want you to. Also you will get out of having to do those quests on a lowly level 4 that you will have to gear up and then de-gear after. Just leave the low level parked at the quest entrances.

[simsiim]

even if your dual client-ing, you do not need to run both toons to the quest.

specially since you have vet status, so all you need is an elite opener. The elite opener already has the quest, you can park them any where if dual client.
this is why the dwarf 4 Barbarian makes the best runner , you get a hireling for heals. you park the hireling at the entrance,
the dwarf Barb has speed and HP

when running for TP favor, you're just doing that, no looting , no collections, and no fighting (exceptions for some quest, you have to fight to open doors).
See if you can find a favor farming guild on the server your farming favor on. there's probably 2-4 of these per server, they just do not always advertise.
in the LFG list something like "favor elite opener needed" , Something like that :) I'm sure someone will join to help.

fastest I have completed a 100 Favor run was 24 minutes, there was 3 of us, each had an opener. and we used the opener to do every thing in one of the quest, but the very end part. once our runners entered, quest finished, just make sure every one is in before completing the quest.
Our average time was 35 minutes for 100 favor, someone was always DC'ng or was not all the way in before completion of the quest and they would have to rerun the missed quest.

To start your opener on the Alt account , this will take longer because you do need to run both to at least the entrance, once you have all quest done on elite, then park the quest "Collaborator" in Korthos, do not leave quest with the opener, just /death, this keeps the quest open without the need to talk to the Dude to start it again. that should be your last run, because you'll be coming from the airship in the market, so first quest to be done there are MIA-hard then Sunken Sewer -elite ,
then it's into Harbor. Ringleader-elite (if you can do Stealthy repo-elite, then go for it, I'm one that cannot I do "Recovering the lost tome"-elite in it's place but not right after ringleader) then it's to garrison lost pack -elite, Durks secrete-elite, Havendasher -hard ,drop over the edge and do Bringing the light-elite, Information is key -elite, then (if you did not do stealthy repo)recovering lost tome, after that Korthos to do Storehouse secrete- elite and then last the Collaborator-elite.
open DDO store, see if you gained the 25 TP, if not relog and look at which quest you may have missed.
remember tip #37, which kinda reads - you do not need the quest to enter, if someone in the party has the quest.
yu earn the favor but if you do not have the quest you do not see it in your compendium unless you relog

[Robi3.0]

At low level THFing and HP are king I recommend going

Human or Helf cleric Max Str decent Con with enough Wis to cast your spells.

If you go human use your human feat for Great Axe prof. take toughness as your others.

If you happen to have access to Helf and go this route pick fighter Dil layout your stats the same as you would a human and take toughness for your other feats.

As far as spell perp goes pick buffs offensive spells will be **** due to the low wisdom and largely unnecessary.

Stick to the 100 favor dash quest list and you should do fine.

[t0r012]

I'm guessing you don't have access to warforged?
nothing beats WF barb wizard.

offense barbarian with starter axe and max str
defense wizard with mage armor and shield
movement speed barb run speed and wizard expeditions retreat
and you get self healing from wizard as well.

as good as it gets.

barring that I would go 1 wiz, 2cleric 1 barb as a dwarf to get the axe damage enh.