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Slink
02-13-2011, 11:38 PM
Decide how you wish to have your flag mechanics work.
Between Fens and the fiasco of Threnals I've had enough.

:mad:

That is all.

NinjaNeed
02-13-2011, 11:59 PM
What is the problem? You do the first quests and then move on to the final one.

Red fens = 3 quests in any order then last quest, no reflagging needed.

Threnal = long quest chain, one after another after another.

No problems.

Slink
02-14-2011, 12:07 AM
What is the problem? You do the first quests and then move on to the final one.

Red fens = 3 quests in any order then last quest, no reflagging needed.

Threnal = long quest chain, one after another after another.

No problems.

You must be new around here.

cdemeritt
02-14-2011, 12:08 AM
Well, Threnal is a very old quest chain... Not very popular not just because of it's length, but more how easy it is to mess up... Nothing worse than running East and West just to find out you screwed something up, and have to run them both again to do south...

Red Fens is a new quest series, and reflects the direction turbine has been moving with regards to flagging/reflagging. Some older quests such as VoN and DQ have already been updated to reflect the change, others still need work. They haven't gotten to Threnal just yet.

rest
02-14-2011, 12:14 AM
Just abandon west after you're done with all the threnals and you can just do west + south for a new end reward. not ideal, but saves you the trouble of east.

sirgog
02-14-2011, 12:18 AM
Threnal needs a major polish pass. Its 'flagging' is even worse than the pre-epic flagging for DQ2 or VON6.

DrenglisEU
02-14-2011, 12:21 AM
/Signed, hopefully they would fix threnal also!

Paddycolver
02-14-2011, 01:39 AM
I'm not sure they should fix Threnal. The end rewards and random loot drops in South are very nice. If you only had to repeat south it would be a grind fest to get all the named loot.... And besides, who doesn't love Coyle?

Then again maybe you want a grind fest, it would mean the chain is played more often.

Teharahma
02-14-2011, 01:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izYIO9VtjUs
0:15

You're welcome.

spartin
02-14-2011, 02:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izYIO9VtjUs&feature=related
0:15

You're welcome.

Thank you! I cant get enough links that dont work.

Rydin_Dirtay
02-14-2011, 02:53 AM
Threnal = long quest chain, one after another after another.

No problem

It has never been that simple with Threnal.

It's weird Turbine has made nearly every other aspect of DDO *easier* over the last two years, and yet they have not made Threnal's flag any easier.

Teharahma
02-14-2011, 03:08 AM
Thank you! I cant get enough links that dont work.

Try again :)

donfilibuster
02-14-2011, 03:10 AM
Yeah is strange turbine hasn't easy buttoned threnal yet.
It could be the bad reviews from players that can't bother to find and walk to the quest giver and location.
Let alone reading the texts on your first run. What with all the players that want the quests shared, they can't play Threnal.
Maybe threnal will sell more if they fix it.

Bloodstealer
02-14-2011, 06:19 AM
Well, Threnal is a very old quest chain... Not very popular not just because of it's length, but more how easy it is to mess up... Nothing worse than running East and West just to find out you screwed something up, and have to run them both again to do south...

Red Fens is a new quest series, and reflects the direction turbine has been moving with regards to flagging/reflagging. Some older quests such as VoN and DQ have already been updated to reflect the change, others still need work. They haven't gotten to Threnal just yet.

Agree Threnal is old, and is long - especially the library keeping that dumb dumb NPC alive for 15 borinnggggg minutes.

But actually Threnal is a good lesson learner for new players.. much like the Necro Crypts - read the dialogue when u update each part and don't repeat them.. you soon learn if you do repeat the flags before you have done the final (south) ruin or the end crypt in Necro 1,2,3 then ur basically screwed and you have to do all over in order to get onto the South ruins or the crypts.
Harsh lesson I know but you only really have to read the dialogue once or make the mistake once.. then you wont do it again, unless of course you never wanna see that Mantle of the Worldshaper in your inventory :rolleyes:

Not that is really all that great anymore :eek:

Sinni
02-14-2011, 06:29 AM
there is only one big problem with the Threnal flagging:

if you have completed all 3 parts and want to do them again, you MUST reset south separately before you redo east or west. Becaus resetting south also resets east and west, so if you reset east and west and do them, then you want to accept south again, east and west are also reset.
This could easily be solved if resetting east or west would also reset south automatically.

Anneliese
02-14-2011, 06:41 AM
Try again :)

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/1148/unbenanntjcp.jpg

Sinni
02-14-2011, 11:08 AM
image/video

"This video has content from Wind Up and EMI. It isn't available in your country. We are sorry"

Hambo
02-14-2011, 12:08 PM
I'm not sure they should fix Threnal. The end rewards and random loot drops in South are very nice. If you only had to repeat south it would be a grind fest to get all the named loot.... And besides, who doesn't love Coyle?

Then again maybe you want a grind fest, it would mean the chain is played more often.

I love Coyle... Now that I can give him a "Boot to the Head" :D

MrkGrismer
02-14-2011, 01:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izYIO9VtjUs
0:15

You're welcome.

Wow, I wonder what country it works in:


This video contains content from Wind Up and Sony Music Entertainment, one or more of whom have blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.

Edit: Oh, and on topic. The developers have stated that Red Fens is how they 'want' flagging to work, I would really like it if they made Threnal like that. So very much. I would love to be able to just do those last two in order to get another chance at Retribution.

JarvisW
02-14-2011, 07:30 PM
Well, My Red Fens is STILL broke, and the GMs tell me its not, and theres nothing I can do.

To recap, Ravenwing tells me to do Ta Prin's quest, even tho I've finished hers 5 times.

So I'm totally with the OP, and I hate even the NEW system, that seems to be just as easy (or easier) to break than the OLD!

Alabore
02-14-2011, 08:52 PM
Wow, I wonder what country it works in:

Over here it does.




Edit: Oh, and on topic. The developers have stated that Red Fens is how they 'want' flagging to work, I would really like it if they made Threnal like that. So very much. I would love to be able to just do those last two in order to get another chance at Retribution.
Where do we sign for simplified flagging for Threnal?

:)

...

Still remember when we had to redo the whole thing because some over-eager guy shared east side, after we had done west...

Slink
02-15-2011, 05:51 AM
Well, My Red Fens is STILL broke, and the GMs tell me its not, and theres nothing I can do.

To recap, Ravenwing tells me to do Ta Prin's quest, even tho I've finished hers 5 times.

So I'm totally with the OP, and I hate even the NEW system, that seems to be just as easy (or easier) to break than the OLD!

This.

MrLarone
02-15-2011, 06:29 AM
Just abandon west after you're done with all the threnals and you can just do west + south for a new end reward. not ideal, but saves you the trouble of east.

well this seems to have been ignored or everyone already knew and no one decided to tell me...

HOLY GUANO! is this actually true?

do i only need to do coyle once per toon!?