No Unraveling rewards at end of Sentinels of Stormreach

[bonscott87]

So a guilie and I ran the Sentinels of Stormreach tonight, did the 3 required and the final. Both got 2 of the 3 sigils during the first 3.

But after we killed the final boss in The Tide Turns we got two chests (did it on hard) and there were nothing but random junk loot, no Unraveling goodies or sigils. No problem we say, we should get them when we complete. So we complete the question by talking with Greigur and again just random junk loot and no Unraveling items!

What gives? Is this a bug or can no Unraveling items appear? Really hate to run these again, if so do we have to run the whole chain again?

I did read in a couple posts that you might have to talk with Taggart and we did but he just thanks us and offers up the optional Spies in the House quest by talking with another dude. Do we have to do Spies now and then come back to Taggart for the Unraveling items?

Thanks for any help, just pretty frustrated as we were both going for the Monk bracers. If it matters this was the first time running the quests and we did them with our level 13 toons, a Paladin and a Ranger/Fighter.

[Chette]

You don't get the sigils as the quest end reward, you get it as the chain end reward from Taggart. You don't have to do the optional one to complete the chain, just the first three. So, it sounds like either you didn't complete the whole chain (I didn't think it was possible to get into the last quest without doing the first two, so this is unlikely), or, you have already completed the chain at least once. I believe you only get the chain end reward once.

Which sigil are you missing? They each have a chance to drop is separate quests, so you just farm the one that drops the sigil you need.

[lionpaw]

i cant remember but i think that after 3 or 6 runs of tides you get a list of sentinals named items as quest rewards, and you only need to run tides, you dont need the other quest's again after you flag.

[Forgeborn]

You don't get the sigils as the quest end reward, you get it as the chain end reward from Taggart. You don't have to do the optional one to complete the chain, just the first three. So, it sounds like either you didn't complete the whole chain (I didn't think it was possible to get into the last quest without doing the first two, so this is unlikely), or, you have already completed the chain at least once. I believe you only get the chain end reward once.

Which sigil are you missing? They each have a chance to drop is separate quests, so you just farm the one that drops the sigil you need.


it's 3 flagging quest for the chain actually
Bargain of blood
Black loch
storm the beaches

then The Tide turns to finish the chain.

to the OP: The tide turns last chest and the -chain- reward just have a chance to give the 'unraveling enchantment' items, so you might need to run it a few times to get the item you want to actually drop. On the up side though, you can rerun the tide turns without needed to run the other quests again (though you will need to run the 3 flagging quests for the sigils of the lion (black loch), dragon (storm the beaches), and goat (bargain of blood) so you can restore the enchantments.

as the person I quoted said, you will only get the chain reward once.

Hope this helped.

[MaugDeepaxe]

I just ran this with 2 different characters. Both times I received a list of quest rewards with a few unraveling enchantment items on the list and all 3 sigils at the bottom as a final reward from Taggart. I never saw an item drop in The Tide Turns quest either but only ran it 3 times, so really not enough data.

Did you start the quest with Taggart and talk to him before starting the next quest each time?

In your Quest Journal you should see:

(Completed) Bargain of Blood
(Completed) Sentinels of Stormreach
(Completed) Sentinels of Stormreach: Island
(Completed) Sentinels of Stormreach: The Final Battle
(Completed) Sentinels of Stormreach: The General Manager
(Completed) Sentinels of Stormreach: The Secret of the Loch
(Completed) Storm the Beaches
(Completed) The Black Loch
(Completed) The Tide Turns

If you are missing any of those or don't show completed then you skipped a step. I almost did not talk to Taggart because Greigur was right there with a Quest icon.

[bonscott87]

Did you start the quest with Taggart and talk to him before starting the next quest each time?


No, we didn't. I was following ddowiki which didn't mention anything about starting the chain with him. We did each one starting with the person indicated. We did complete all the quests though.

Guess we'll need to do the optional spies and see if Taggart will "reset" to start the chain but we may have screwed it up at this point.

Thanks guys.

[learst]

You don't have to do the quest in order. The first time you finished all the quests (i.e the chain), you can claim your end reward from Taggart (if I remember correctly). He will offer all sigils and unravelling enchanment items, but you can only pick one. And this end reward is only offered once.

To gain additional sigils, you will need to run the individual quests again (check DDO wiki for which quest drops which sigil/item).

[sherbertmachine]

If i'm not mistaken, every 3 completions of tide turns the quest givers end reward has virtually all the unraveling items in the list. I ran into it by mistake doing the quest for favor on my healer doing normal/hard/elite.

[Anneliese]

I ran the quest like 3 times yesterday and once I got the sigils also from the NPC from the tide turns.


Since I got 1 sigil from one of the other quests, 1 sigil from the one-time-reward, I stopped running the tide turns after that for that evening.

Not exactly sure what happened, since I didnt pay much attention.


It could be that its a random chance for the NPC to generate a list of items each time you complete - I dont know - maybe also for each 3 runs.

[PopeJual]

Also, since you get the chain reward once per character only, if you get desperate, you can make a level 4 veteran boat character and get a high level friend to drag you through the quests. You'll probably pick up a sigil or two along the way and then your temporary character can grab the last remaining sigil at the end.

[Chette]

it's 3 flagging quest for the chain actually
Bargain of blood
Black loch
storm the beaches

then The Tide turns to finish the chain.

to the OP: The tide turns last chest and the -chain- reward just have a chance to give the 'unraveling enchantment' items, so you might need to run it a few times to get the item you want to actually drop. On the up side though, you can rerun the tide turns without needed to run the other quests again (though you will need to run the 3 flagging quests for the sigils of the lion (black loch), dragon (storm the beaches), and goat (bargain of blood) so you can restore the enchantments.

as the person I quoted said, you will only get the chain reward once.

Hope this helped.

Ya, it was late and I couldn't count :)
The point is, have to do all the flagging quests and be on chain, then complete tide turns to get the chain reward. The quests themselves just give typical junk as end rewards.

[bonscott87]

I think the problem was that we were never on the "chain" since we didn't talk to Taggart in the first place. Thus no chain reward at the end.

[Shade]

Guide here:
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=241608

Per guide sigils do not drop in "The tide turns"

Nor are they given as end rewards.

They are given for the chain end reward, but you must complete the whole chain. And i thought it was a 1 shot deal, but it might of been changed to give you them every 3 completions of the entire chain now.

(probably why the quest shows up on /quest completions)

Im assiming by "unraveling items" you do mean sigils.

If you mean the basic unupgraded items, they do drop in the tide turns, tho there not guarenteed drops. Try agian on elite, higher droprate on elite.

[locus]

If i'm not mistaken, every 3 completions of tide turns the quest givers end reward has virtually all the unraveling items in the list. I ran into it by mistake doing the quest for favor on my healer doing normal/hard/elite.

Yes, this. It also has all three sigils appearing on the end rewards list every three runs and is fairly easy to zerg; on elite you'll probably get a few of the named items in one of the end chests frequently (the wand especially appears a lot). As of a month and a half ago this is true, and is easy enough to test.

[bonscott87]

(Completed) Bargain of Blood
(Completed) Sentinels of Stormreach
(Completed) Sentinels of Stormreach: Island
(Completed) Sentinels of Stormreach: The Final Battle
(Completed) Sentinels of Stormreach: The General Manager
(Completed) Sentinels of Stormreach: The Secret of the Loch
(Completed) Storm the Beaches
(Completed) The Black Loch
(Completed) The Tide Turns

If you are missing any of those or don't show completed then you skipped a step. I almost did not talk to Taggart because Greigur was right there with a Quest icon.

Yep, I'm missing all these:
(Completed) Sentinels of Stormreach
(Completed) Sentinels of Stormreach: Island
(Completed) Sentinels of Stormreach: The Final Battle
(Completed) Sentinels of Stormreach: The General Manager
(Completed) Sentinels of Stormreach: The Secret of the Loch

The other 4 I got.

So yea, I didn't talk to Taggart so thus never actually got on the "chain". Turbine really needs to fix this because no where in the Quest/Adventurers Journal does it say to start out with Taggart and the ddowiki also does not mention this. There has to be more people that have been bitten by this confusing thing.

[JarvisW]

I agree that many chains can be clearer, its been a bane of mine for sure!

I do have to say wiki does give a hint to talk with Taggert here http://ddowiki.com/page/Sentinels

"Reward List

Taggart d'Deneith offers you a reward for finishing The Tide Turns for the first time. This is one time reward and cannot be taken multiple times. The list consists of 8 items including following named ones + all 3 crafting Sigils. "

But nothing on each quest of course.

I had issues with Rouge (yes the color) when hers first came out too, and we botched Threnal (HOW LONG HAS THIS BEEN OUT FOR DMs SAKE?!?!) a couple weeks ago.

Good luck and Happy Hunting!

[SardaofChaos]

This is the same deal as with Sharn Syndicate and Phiarlan Carnival, and probably one or two other chains of quests I can't remember right now. I believe there are signposts that will point you to the chain person rather than the first quest person, although this doesn't help high level chars who just got the packs.

[bonscott87]

I believe there are signposts that will point you to the chain person rather than the first quest person, although this doesn't help high level chars who just got the packs.

Probably right here. Guess I need to dumb myself down to WoW standards and look at the signposts for once. LOL

[My2Cents]

Thanks to the help here, I finished the chain, have 3 sigils and a weapon to unravel, how/where do I unravel it? Can't seem to get to the top of the tpwer without going into the quest. How do I get to the "crafting devices" on the map? I assume that's where its done, but if I have to do The Tide Turns again its fine, I'd probably prefer to unravel a different item anyway...

[MrkGrismer]

Thanks to the help here, I finished the chain, have 3 sigils and a weapon to unravel, how/where do I unravel it? Can't seem to get to the top of the tpwer without going into the quest. How do I get to the "crafting devices" on the map? I assume that's where its done, but if I have to do The Tide Turns again its fine, I'd probably prefer to unravel a different item anyway...

Go up the hill behind the tower, there is a bridge across that leads to the crafting device. I had a heck of a time finding it also.

[bonscott87]

Just to update this:

The quest chain is still broken, can't get Taggart to "reset" but it's not needed. We farmed the first 3 quests to get the 3 sigils we needed and did the Tide Turns 2 more times and sure enough the full list of items was in Greigur's end reward list so we were able to get the bracers. So you can indeed still farm out the items and sigils you need even if the quest chain is broken.

[JarvisW]

Good luck, cause I botched the Red Fens, and cant get end reward there either.

Good thing with both is, if you re-run, to farm for items, you can get them eventually..

At least thats what I was told when I was hating life when I found out fens was broke!

[SardaofChaos]

Probably right here. Guess I need to dumb myself down to WoW standards and look at the signposts for once. LOL

Wasn't aware actually reading things was considered 'dumbed down'... as well as the apparent fact that you need to read things in WoW...

Anyways, what I meant by it not helping high levels is you can't even read the signposts if you're a certain number of levels about the quest. Kind of a stupid mechanic if you ask me, it's not like it's that hard to go and talk to the person again if you're that OCD about keeping your log clean.

[LordPiglet]

The Tide Turns should generate a special list every three runs