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TeyaBrosna
01-28-2011, 05:52 PM
Chronoscope complete. I think. Khallyope, the Elven 1 Rogue/8 Ranger, has raided.

I had prepared for a long and involved preparation process, involving numerous conversations about what weapons/gear/clickies I should bring/buy, what would be involved in the quest itself and how my skills in particular could be utilised to the greatest extent possible. I posted a thread asking some of these questions already this morning and was already getting some fantastic answers, all of which I was taking to heart. I assumed that this process would take at least a couple of days, partly because I rarely see LFMs on Sarlona that involve the Chronoscope at the lower levels on Normal, and partly because I'm very nervous about the prospect of my first raid.

Needless to say, I was shocked when I saw an LFM for exactly what I wanted earlier today. I was even more shocked when I whispered the leader to see if he would accept a ranger. He was very polite and immediately shot me a team invite. Surprising myself, I accepted it. Then...we waited. It was just the leader, whom I dubbed "Tollbooth" because I kept getting his name wrong, and I for about 15 minutes. (Can I say his actual name if I only say positive things? I think that's the rule... At any rate, his name was Tolgood and he was *great.*)

I immediately headed to my guild ship to await the filling of the team, so that I could start getting my buffs when I saw the people signing up and not make the entire group wait for me. I shouldn't have bothered, as one of the team members invited the entire group to his guild ship for buffs. Everyone was pleasant, although there wasn't much voice chatting going on. (This is when I start to wonder if they're all secretly giggling at my accent and/or the fact that I'm a clueless girl.) After we'd all buffed, we headed to the quest entrance, at which point Tollbooth did take to his microphone and succinctly explained what we'd be doing.

"Blah blah blah blahblah blah-blah-blah demons. Blah blah blah ..and let's all stay together!" Is what I heard, due to the ringing in my ears from the nerves and adrenaline. I had already warned him that this was my first time doing a raid and he didn't seem too bothered by it. I figured that if worse came to worst, I'd just stick with him. We entered...on Hard. What?! I scream to my wife and cat. It'll be just fine, the wife reassures me. The cat more accurately reflects my own feelings and looks skeptical.

Now...I *know* that the setting for the Chronoscope is the Marketplace. I read the wiki and I've heard people talk about it. But did I recognise anything at all? Not a thing. My nerves almost completely took over and I barely recognised my own toolbars. My cat jumped up on my lap at one point during the first minute or so after we entered the raid, and I screaming "OMG IT'S A DEMON GET IT OFF GETITOFF." Clearly, even keeping up with the group was going to be a challenge for me.

However, the first fight went off without a hitch...someone talked to some NPC and then the NPCs said some things which appeared to be in a strange language. Then the fighting started. Then it was over. It lasted about 10 whole seconds and I'm honestly not even sure that I hit anything (other than my cat, who may have tried to jump up again). Feeling exhilarated, but still filled with caution ala samthedagger's Chrono guide, we moved on. I followed the group to a tavern, the Rusty Nail, which under normal circumstances I would have recognised right away. Not
today. We formed an orderly line to the back of the tavern, used some kind of strange portal, and spoke to another NPC who gave us some more buffs. I don't know what they were, but everyone was doing it so they must've been good. Then we all trooped back out and followed Tollbooth's direction to stop at the portal at the top of the stairs.

Now, what followed made very, very little sense to me. We killed things, some of which were on the ground, some of which were flying and some of which disappeared after you pounded on them for a little while. The group typed things to one another and everyone was pleasant. Fortunately, my wife was sitting right beside me and was able to read the party chat out loud to me, because I was unable to follow it (much less understand the words). She later told me that everyone was communicating extremely well with one another.

I briefly noticed that one of our rogues died. I have to confess here that the only reaction that elicited from me was "Thank goodness that wasn't me." My wife later informed me that I missed a key part of the typed conversation at this point, in which the rogue informed the group and although he was pretty squishy, his DPS was awesome. The only part I did see was a line from a cleric a few minutes later: "You only have 68 HP? No wonder I'm having a hard time keeping you up!" The rogue died a total of 7 times during the course of the raid. Note to self: never describe yourself, your character, your gear or your DPS as awesome, even if you/they are.

We entered the bank and fought our first boss. He came at us and I may have soiled my chair - his name was PURPLE. That's the first time I'd ever seen that! I vaguely remembered reading something about killing his armorers first, so I ignored the boss and started shooting at those little buggers. Switching to my melee weapons, I did my best to keep the casters/healers safe. I dunno if they noticed or appreciated it at all, but I did notice for the first time that I was taking damage and getting healed. I managed to hurt two of the demons enough to take their aggro, which I consider to be an accomplishment of sorts, rather like being stopped on the street by a mugger who recognises you from the society pages and decides to rob you because you're famous.

After the boss went down, we looted a chest, rezzed our rogue again, shrined and started running around some more. Obviously, several members of our team knew exactly what they were doing because I started seeing lines in party chat saying things like "I'm gonna go up here and see if there's anyone to save." We're saving people?! Tollbooth chimes in with "If you see anyone who looks like they're sleeping, talk to them." Got it - we're saving the homeless of Stormreach. Because of my utter cluelessness however, I never saw any of these people but somehow they all got saved.

We made it to a second boss inside the steam tunnels. He was patrolling back and forth in front of us, using a crutch. Everyone started buffing like mad, which seemed a bit like my stepfather ensuring that his hipflask was full before visiting with the in-laws, but I followed suit. The fight got a little crazy, but fun - that narrow walkway was jam-packed with action and I didn't scream a single time. Whipped out those holy rapiers that I'd stolen from my Tempest ranger and went to town! Hack, slash, rogue death, hack, slash, mass heal, hack, omg I'm taking damage, slash, cleric healed me!, hack, ManyShot misclick DOH, slash! Panting, we stood over the boss' dead body, then looted his chest.

"Now it gets fun," Tollbooth informs us and I can hear the grin in his voice. Gulp.

We head to a large chamber which appears to be some kind of amphitheater. "For all you first-timers," Tollbooth says, "Be sure to look up and enjoy the show!" I do so and see that we're in some kind of weird circus, filled with multi-colored demons who appear to be engaging in some kind of courting ritual. I wonder how far this is going to progress, and whether or not my fire resist buff is enough to shield me from demon coitus, when suddenly the words (which I hadn't noticed before) above the NPC's head suddenly ARE ALL IN CAPS AND END WITH EXCLAMATION POINTS! I steel myself for the fight.

It took me about two minutes of fighting before I realised that our group had actually broken into two groups, one fighting the demons and one standing back and casting/healing. I hadn't even noticed that I'd been left behind in the casting group. There I was, pew pewing away, standing next to casters. Just as I turned to blush and apologise to them, a demon appeared right in our midst! "I'll save you!" I shout and whip out my rapiers. Bam, hack, slash, slash, hack, DING! The demon and I managed to kill each other. I could feel the color rising in my face as my head sank down into my chest. After all that, I died during the very last fight.

I'd been hoping that if anyone talked about my participation later on, they would say things like "Oh Khally? Yeah, I was in that chrono raid with her. She's not a daaaaaamn pew pew or anything, but she was pretty good about putting down her bow." Or even "Khally? Yeah, I didn't have to waste too many SP on her since she was pretty good about staying with the group and I saw her use a heal wand on herself several times." But no, now it's gonna be "Oh, that noob? Yeah, she died fighting a single demon when she wasn't anywhere near the real fight at the end."

I looked up just in time to see that some kind soul was using a rez scroll on me, which I gratefully accepted. To my utter shame, I didn't even notice who was using such a valuable resource on me. To that unnamed life-saver, you have my sincerest thanks. I was up and fighting in time to help kill the final boss (which DID look suspiciously like a dragon for a while there, causing all the blood to drain from my face). We opened three lovely chests at the end, everyone politely thanked everyone else, Tollbooth directed us first-timers where to go to choose our end reward, and we all dropped group.

What I did that felt right, which I'd like to repeat next time:

1. Remember to rebuff myself after each shrining.
2. Gave Barkskin to anyone who didn't have it (after the tank politely asked for it at the beginning).
3. Cared for my own health bar at every opportunity, wand-whipping in between fights.
4. Stayed with the group 100 percent of the time.
5. Didn't touch anything until I had the leader's permission, which I didn't realise could include chests...*really* glad Tollbooth told us all to back off until the other two appeared.
6. Switched out to melee weapons after ManyShot and/or the flying demons were down.

Some things I will definitely do differently next time:

1. Pee before we start.
2. Read party chat. Hopefully I won't be so *very* nervous that I can't read English.
3. Pay attention to the dialogue of the quest, as well as the optionals. All I know is that there was a "Professor" So-and-so in the quest. It seems a bit extreme to set demons on someone just because they lied and said their Masters degree was a Ph.D. but...whatever.
4. Take the time to thank the healers and anyone who is forced to rez me. I am literally covered with shame that I didn't whisper the healers to thank them for doing such a great job and for rezzing my sorry butt.


And now you, the professionals...what else do I need to work on doing differently for the next raid? I fully acknowledge that I pretty much sucked this time, but I am determined to be better. (Whoa...shades of prom night.) I definitely want to continue raiding in the future, but I want to make sure that I am a help to the group and not a hindrance.

voodoogroves
01-28-2011, 06:05 PM
You need to do a write up after each raid you do; this was great ;-)

Gratz on your first big raid - the first few can be intimidating for sure!

It's fun to learn the raids for yourself; don't rely too much on things written on the forums - some of the fun IS wandering through that first time when it is all new.

Don't sweat the raise scrolls - one thing you'll find is that raids NEED healers, and just like everyone expects the DPS to invest in the right tools for the job, it isn't unreasonable to expect a healer-type to burn a few scrolls. Mana Pots, not so much ... but scrolls are things many people prefer to use as part of their overall conservation of resources plan. I know on mine I tend to carry stacks; once you get a few higher level toons scrolls are CHEAP.

And don't worry about personal tells ... a quick "ty for raise" in party chat is fine.

Book_O_Dragons
01-28-2011, 06:14 PM
Congrats on your first raid I posted another piece of advice in your earlier thread

hityawithastick
01-28-2011, 06:16 PM
Gratz on the completion!

Awesome writeup. :D It's nice to know I wasn't the only one who got crazy on the first raid. ;)

And don't worry about dying--that end fight is a little wonky. D: Using party chat is fine as a thanks for heals, and finallly....

Sounds like you were a better-than-average pugger. :)
Soon you'll be the cool vet AA who goes off alone, rescues all the market hobos and comes back with nary a scratch :D

FrancisP.Fancypants
01-28-2011, 06:21 PM
So wait, are you using a headset or turning your audio listen-to-party option on? Cause 'hearing the party' is way easier than 'reading party chat'. One of those leads to way more pings than the other.

p.s.: I've got a lowbie cleric on Sarlona named Klif, holler if you see me :)

TeyaBrosna
01-28-2011, 06:24 PM
Gratz on the completion!

Awesome writeup. :D It's nice to know I wasn't the only one who got crazy on the first raid. ;)

And don't worry about dying--that end fight is a little wonky. D: Using party chat is fine as a thanks for heals, and finallly....

Sounds like you were a better-than-average pugger. :)
Soon you'll be the cool vet AA who goes off alone, rescues all the market hobos and comes back with nary a scratch :D

It IS crazy-making, isn't it? And I'm sure it might sound a bit silly to people who have raided so much that it's become second nature to them, but gosh... I'm all about enjoying the heck out of the moment. :) It was TERRIBLY exciting, so I let my adrenaline run rampant. To be perfectly honest, I'm still a little buzzy...

::dreams about one day being a 'cool AA vet'::

(Although what this brings immediately to my mind is: "Hi, my name is Khally and it's been 2 days, 17 hours since my last raid.")

learst
01-28-2011, 06:37 PM
Very nice write-up! Had a great time reading and laughing when I did. Your English sounds perfectly good to me. And cool that you have such a supportive wife on your first raid. ;)

Ah memories of my first raid (TS). So nervewracking. I was on my bard so I just stood mostly behind and throw buffs, and the occasional charms. Will probably be a lot more nervous if I was a melee and had to be in the frontlines (what with my crappy gear and being totally unprepared for the raid).

Glad that you enjoyed your first raid! I haven't do Chrono yet though, would like to try it someday at level.

Cardtrick
01-28-2011, 06:37 PM
Haha, that was a fun read. Thanks for sharing! Almost exactly described my first raid (which was Chrono elite) after playing the game for quite a while but strictly solo. Total chaos, but fun.

TeyaBrosna
01-28-2011, 07:05 PM
Very nice write-up! Had a great time reading and laughing when I did. Your English sounds perfectly good to me. And cool that you have such a supportive wife on your first raid. ;)

Ah memories of my first raid (TS). So nervewracking. I was on my bard so I just stood mostly behind and throw buffs, and the occasional charms. Will probably be a lot more nervous if I was a melee and had to be in the frontlines (what with my crappy gear and being totally unprepared for the raid).

Glad that you enjoyed your first raid! I haven't do Chrono yet though, would like to try it someday at level.

Sadly, English IS my first language. Not that I'm embarrassed at all to be a native English speaker, merely that the language made *no sense* to me whatsoever for the duration of the raid...I was just that nervous. :)

You should DEFINITELY do Chrono! To be perfectly honest, I'd do it again tonight if it weren't for the raid timer. And that's saying a lot, considering how incredibly shy I've been around here. I hope you get a chance to try it out at level, and I really hope that you get a group as good as mine was. Wishing you the very best of luck! :)

TeyaBrosna
01-28-2011, 07:09 PM
So wait, are you using a headset or turning your audio listen-to-party option on? Cause 'hearing the party' is way easier than 'reading party chat'. One of those leads to way more pings than the other.

p.s.: I've got a lowbie cleric on Sarlona named Klif, holler if you see me :)

No headset, but all voice chat does come out of my speakers and I have a free-standing microphone so that I can fully utilise voice chat. You couldn't be more right, using voice chat is tons easier.

I'll be on the lookout for you! :) Although, I have to say...I *love* "Francis Fancypants." SO full of win. :)

Ullysses
01-28-2011, 10:12 PM
::dreams about one day being a 'cool AA vet'::

(Although what this brings immediately to my mind is: "Hi, my name is Khally and it's been 2 days, 17 hours since my last raid.")

LoL whenever I see AA I think Altaholics Anonymous.

'Hello, my name is Katt, and it's been 2 days 17 hours since I created a new toon.'

Grats on your first raid, and props on the entertaining write-up on it! Great job!

TeyaBrosna
01-29-2011, 11:01 AM
LoL whenever I see AA I think Altaholics Anonymous.

'Hello, my name is Katt, and it's been 2 days 17 hours since I created a new toon.'

Grats on your first raid, and props on the entertaining write-up on it! Great job!

LOL! You gotta wonder if there is an Altoholics Anonymous group adjunct to DDO. If not, there should be. I know that I've heard "Oh, I'm just making another mule...yeah, that's it...another mule..." from my wife far, far too many times for it to be believable.

And thanks for reading my write-up! I'm glad you guys enjoyed it. :) I can't tell if I have more fun actually participating in these events or writing about them, to be honest. LOL

hityawithastick
01-29-2011, 11:04 AM
It IS crazy-making, isn't it? And I'm sure it might sound a bit silly to people who have raided so much that it's become second nature to them, but gosh... I'm all about enjoying the heck out of the moment. :) It was TERRIBLY exciting, so I let my adrenaline run rampant. To be perfectly honest, I'm still a little buzzy...

::dreams about one day being a 'cool AA vet'::

(Although what this brings immediately to my mind is: "Hi, my name is Khally and it's been 2 days, 17 hours since my last raid.")

O it becomes second nature after a while? I hope not :D

daddio42
01-29-2011, 12:28 PM
Congrats on the completion. I really enjoyed your narrative.

Now that you're hooked on raids, flag for the Vault of Night. I was blown away the 1st time I met Velah. (Still have the screen shot.)

TeyaBrosna
01-29-2011, 02:18 PM
Congrats on the completion. I really enjoyed your narrative.

Now that you're hooked on raids, flag for the Vault of Night. I was blown away the 1st time I met Velah. (Still have the screen shot.)

ooooOOOoo That's the big red dragon, yeah? I can't WAIT to see her! What's the min level I should be before I can reasonably start flagging for that? (Given that I'm...ya know...kinda newbie. LOL)

Bahamut2119
01-29-2011, 02:43 PM
Lvl 8 is the earliest i would recommended for someone new tot he game can be done even earlier most of the lowbie velah raids happen in the 10-13 range.

TeyaBrosna
01-29-2011, 05:20 PM
Lvl 8 is the earliest i would recommended for someone new tot he game can be done even earlier most of the lowbie velah raids happen in the 10-13 range.

Great to know, thanks! I'm about halfway to level 10 now, and I think that's when I'll start looking for a group. I've done the Jungle of Khyber quest on another toon...that's one of the flagging quests for VON, isn't it? I'll have to see if this girlie can solo those quests, that'll be a real test.

Also, I wanna try out Tempest Spine. Any recommendations regarding that raid? (Gear, lvl, clickies, etc?)

Dreamshifter
01-29-2011, 07:07 PM
Congrats on your first raid! Hope you weren't so nervous that it doesn't stick with you. I still remember mine, Tempest Spine, on Elite, with a poorly equipped Halfling Fighter 8, so long ago... Of course what I remember is a confusing jumble of following along, being mostly lost (what do you mean, the map doesn't work? :eek: ), and sitting around doing nothing for the boss... So much has changed since then.

And good luck on Vault of Night. I'd imagine it can be a lot of fun, with the right people. Sadly, my first Vellah raid, while successful, was very disappointing. Still, I imagine that's the exception, and in no small part to me going in with a caster (well that, and we grabbed the wrong people to fill the group with, leaving a bitter taste in several of our mouths). Heck, I'd offer to join you for it (I have a couple characters in the 10-ish range on Sarlona), but I've not done a real PUG in years (due to a similar level of shyness). Well that, and the two most likely characters are a Rogue and a Favored Soul, and I don't know the raid well enough to trapmonkey it, and couldn't heal for it if my life depended on it! ;)

TeyaBrosna
01-30-2011, 08:10 AM
Congrats on your first raid! Hope you weren't so nervous that it doesn't stick with you. I still remember mine, Tempest Spine, on Elite, with a poorly equipped Halfling Fighter 8, so long ago... Of course what I remember is a confusing jumble of following along, being mostly lost (what do you mean, the map doesn't work? :eek: ), and sitting around doing nothing for the boss... So much has changed since then.

And good luck on Vault of Night. I'd imagine it can be a lot of fun, with the right people. Sadly, my first Vellah raid, while successful, was very disappointing. Still, I imagine that's the exception, and in no small part to me going in with a caster (well that, and we grabbed the wrong people to fill the group with, leaving a bitter taste in several of our mouths). Heck, I'd offer to join you for it (I have a couple characters in the 10-ish range on Sarlona), but I've not done a real PUG in years (due to a similar level of shyness). Well that, and the two most likely characters are a Rogue and a Favored Soul, and I don't know the raid well enough to trapmonkey it, and couldn't heal for it if my life depended on it! ;)

I keep hearing this 'the map doesn't work' refrain regarding Tempest Spine... It makes me gulp! Not that I'm particularly good with directions, but I'm *exceptionally* good at covering ground I've already covered a few times, which is why I likes me the fog/no-fog zones.

You sound like me and why I didn't pug or raid for the first six months I played (although obviously it sounds as though you've played for MUCH longer). I think what finally made me take the plunge is that I really *wanted* to have the raid experience, even if it was with a group of people I didn't know. To be perfectly honest, now that I've had that experience, I can't wait to have it again. I'm terribly sorry to hear that your first raids weren't as heartening...that's a huge shame and I can totally understand being wary about doing it again.

If you ever change your mind and want to be a noob with me, log into Sarlona and we'll both tell the group leader that we've never ever ever done the raid before...we just won't mention that you simply haven't done it on that server with that character. ;) What's the worst that could happen? You could get an Irish girl screaming obscenities into your ear because she misclicked ManyShot while holding dual rapiers...and how bad IS that, really? :)

jwdaniels
01-30-2011, 08:50 AM
Tempest Spine is a 3D map, which is why it doesn't work - the levels all stack on each other. That said, if you're good at following the group and don't get stuck with a bunch of zergers you'll do okay. Just be sure to let the leader know it's your first time, especially when you hit the lair of fire and ice.

Congrats on your first raid.

voodoogroves
01-30-2011, 09:04 AM
SOME SPOILERY TYPE THINGS

Tempest Spine:

Fortification, fire resistance (house buffs can work) and some patience! Melee tends to work better in there, so keep those melee weapons handy! Fire resist 10 is ok on normal; you'll generally want 20 on hard, 30 on elite.

Boss is a Storm Giant, FYI. Big evil storm giant.



Vault of Night:

Your first VoN5 you won't have a clue whats going on - going left, right, what? Where am I? I actually recommend finding someone / posting in the LFM for someone to TEACH you how. That's one where there are still plenty of people who've run it lots but don't actually know it. There's lots of head-west and get X, now go east and do Y, ok everyone go north to do Z, now someone back west, etc. I love it. Just remember when VON5 is done to not finish out; the entrance to VON6 is inside VON5. Biggest piece of advice: have your speakers on and listen, ask for explanations. Usually some vet doesn't mind explaining it; there are guides and I read one before I stepped inside but it didn't make complete sense until I'd kinda been in it.

VON6 when the dragon launches is pretty spectacular. Get past that as quickly as you can as VON6 takes a bit of coordination; and you do want to be with the group.

Plenty of constructs in VON, some which cant be smite-ed, but smiters and construct banes are good. The end boss is a red dragon.

PS: Put the bow away for the dragon, please. Also, stay with the group in VON6.

TeyaBrosna
01-30-2011, 09:12 AM
SOME SPOILERY TYPE THINGS

Tempest Spine:

Fortification, fire resistance (house buffs can work) and some patience! Melee tends to work better in there, so keep those melee weapons handy! Fire resist 10 is ok on normal; you'll generally want 20 on hard, 30 on elite.

Boss is a Storm Giant, FYI. Big evil storm giant.



Vault of Night:

Your first VoN5 you won't have a clue whats going on - going left, right, what? Where am I? I actually recommend finding someone / posting in the LFM for someone to TEACH you how. That's one where there are still plenty of people who've run it lots but don't actually know it. There's lots of head-west and get X, now go east and do Y, ok everyone go north to do Z, now someone back west, etc. I love it. Just remember when VON5 is done to not finish out; the entrance to VON6 is inside VON5. Biggest piece of advice: have your speakers on and listen, ask for explanations. Usually some vet doesn't mind explaining it; there are guides and I read one before I stepped inside but it didn't make complete sense until I'd kinda been in it.

VON6 when the dragon launches is pretty spectacular. Get past that as quickly as you can as VON6 takes a bit of coordination; and you do want to be with the group.

Plenty of constructs in VON, some which cant be smite-ed, but smiters and construct banes are good. The end boss is a red dragon.

PS: Put the bow away for the dragon, please. Also, stay with the group in VON6.

Voodoogroves, you are my new hero. Can I steal you from G-land to be my own, personal raid guide? I'll let you out for walks and give you nice water and foods. If you're really good, I'll give you some halflings to chew on, if that's your taste. If not, I'm sure I can find some pretty elven rogue/bards...because really, what could be better than a pretty girl/boy who can sing and is limber?

Think about it.

(And thanks TONS for that info, I have made notes. :) )

voodoogroves
01-30-2011, 10:17 AM
I haven't been playing too too long and still remember the shock at some of the bigger raids/etc. That's probably why I do like VON, Tempest Spine, etc. Chronoscope is similar in its "bigness" to those two; the Shroud is big but always felt "arbitrary" to me and at its core is still very linear.

If I were you, I'd flag VON right now and join whatever TS runs you can!

Hambo
01-30-2011, 10:56 AM
I keep hearing this 'the map doesn't work' refrain regarding Tempest Spine... It makes me gulp! Not that I'm particularly good with directions, but I'm *exceptionally* good at covering ground I've already covered a few times, which is why I likes me the fog/no-fog zones.

You sound like me and why I didn't pug or raid for the first six months I played (although obviously it sounds as though you've played for MUCH longer). I think what finally made me take the plunge is that I really *wanted* to have the raid experience, even if it was with a group of people I didn't know. To be perfectly honest, now that I've had that experience, I can't wait to have it again. I'm terribly sorry to hear that your first raids weren't as heartening...that's a huge shame and I can totally understand being wary about doing it again.

If you ever change your mind and want to be a noob with me, log into Sarlona and we'll both tell the group leader that we've never ever ever done the raid before...we just won't mention that you simply haven't done it on that server with that character. ;) What's the worst that could happen? You could get an Irish girl screaming obscenities into your ear because she misclicked ManyShot while holding dual rapiers...and how bad IS that, really? :)

I don't know if you belong to a guild or not, but after running Tempest Spine (TS) enough times to get to know it in the early years, my first guild started running "naked"...

This is where everyone strips their Alt down to undies... No robes, armor, boots, rings, wands, weapons... Nothing. The only usable items are what you pull from breakables and chests during that run. It makes for a more cooperative group. My rogue pulls a full plate armor? He gives it to a tank. Wands? if he can't use with at least a 75% success he gives them to the appropriate caster/healer class, and so forth.

The real fun, with a consenting adult group, is when you add the drinking games... Healers drink for every death... Rogues for every failed trap disarm, etc.

I've played many healers under the table in my day :D

Dreamshifter
01-30-2011, 08:48 PM
I keep hearing this 'the map doesn't work' refrain regarding Tempest Spine... It makes me gulp! Not that I'm particularly good with directions, but I'm *exceptionally* good at covering ground I've already covered a few times, which is why I likes me the fog/no-fog zones.

This is really the biggest disappointment about TS for me. I'm decent enough with directions, but being able to bring up the map, look at it, and see that shaded passage and go "Well, shoot! There's the passage I missed!" makes my life a lot easier. TS is otherwise fun, though I've not really done it at level much. I have tried to solo it on my monk... that was, uh, "interesting".:D


You sound like me and why I didn't pug or raid for the first six months I played (although obviously it sounds as though you've played for MUCH longer). I think what finally made me take the plunge is that I really *wanted* to have the raid experience, even if it was with a group of people I didn't know. To be perfectly honest, now that I've had that experience, I can't wait to have it again. I'm terribly sorry to hear that your first raids weren't as heartening...that's a huge shame and I can totally understand being wary about doing it again.

It could have gone worse, honestly, and it wasn't what keeps me out of PUGs (that's a whole other story), but it definitely wasn't exciting. My guild, though, are gearing up to run it again, probably short-manning VON with our 15s, which will be far more fun, I expect.


If you ever change your mind and want to be a noob with me, log into Sarlona and we'll both tell the group leader that we've never ever ever done the raid before...we just won't mention that you simply haven't done it on that server with that character. ;) What's the worst that could happen? You could get an Irish girl screaming obscenities into your ear because she misclicked ManyShot while holding dual rapiers...and how bad IS that, really? :)

Ha! See, that makes it tempting. I'd take you up on that, but sadly, my computer is mostly out of commission right now (danged laptop fan breaking), so I don't expect to be in game much for... Well, probably several weeks, knowing Dell. They just had to buy out Alienware, didn't they... :(

Maybe when I'm back full time, though. Feel free to give me a shout, though. I'm usually running Anersha, or Cemere. I still log in to quickly kill stuff, until the heat gets too be too much.