Lelo presents: The Griefer's Shroud

[LeLoric]

Are you finding the day in day out relationship with this special raid growing dull?

Looking to spice up your time spent with that certain raid?

Well here may be what you are looking for.

I will be putting on multiple shroud raids every week that will have a certain subset of rules designed to create a fun atmosphere again in the shroud. The basis is that after all 12 people are in party I as the leader will roll a random 1d12 using the order of the group as shown on my screen whichever person that roll picked will be the designated griefer. This person will go the whole raid trying to impede, hinder, even wipe the rest of the group.

Raids will begin on Feb 1st

Here is the basic ruleset:

1. The griefer may use almost any available resource to him to achieve the ultimate goal of shroud party wipe. Exceptions will be noted further within the rules.

2. The griefer has exactly 2 Min from the roll to go to the bank swap spells etc. All other raid participants must immediately enter the shroud upon completion of the roll. Raid participants may not enter the first portal until the griefer has enterred the instance. All other portals are free game and can be entered at any time With the exception of the part 4 to 5 portal that causes death there will be a 1 minute timer here for people to get shrined up after which anyone may hit the portal.

3. There is no griefing the griefer. All other raid participates should be trying to complete the raid as normal. No single target spells may be cast upon the griefer but you may cast single target spells at any charms/summons of the griefer.

4. Should the griefer die he can be left dead until the end of that specific part of the shroud. He must be raised before the next altar is hit.

5. The griefer can not do anything that would prevent anyone from getting any loot. This includes breaking crystals in part 3 or placing ddoors in specific areas that would make someone be locked out at the first of the raid.

6. All raids unless otherwise specified by me in advance will be normal runs. Group makeup is generally whoever is available but to make things somewaht fair I will always try my hardest to obtain two capable fvs/cleric/bard in case 1 gets the griefer role. Ocassionally to spice up things I may do a double griefer raid or elite or all caster or similar.

7. No mana pots may be used. Most anything can be overcome through mana pots and the griefer would be at a disadvantage. Bauble's are ok. I may ask you to link a spent bauble if I notice sharp spell bar growth.

8. No griefing over voice or chat methods. Screaming over voice or spamming chat endlessly is not griefing it's uncool and not fun. Lag is not griefing nor is bugged out instances anything used with the intention of creating either is in violation of the rules.

9. This is a fun event. Those not willing to follow the above listed rules or others set aside in the future to maintain fun will be not allowed to participate in future raids.

10. This is an experienced player event only designed to relieve some of the grind feel of the raid. General knowledge of the raid is expected. If I don't know you don't be mad if I ask you to link a completed tier III shroud weapon or item. It's just so I know you have a modicum of experience in the raid.

11. Raids will be generally filled with my guildies first after which I will advertise in a general channel I will be setting up specifically for these events. Should I be unable to fill from those two methods then an lfm will be posted. If after 5 min of lfm posting if i have no replies then the raid will either be called off if under 10 people or shortmanned. Channel name is griefer and password is ghallanda
This is a raid for completion only as at times to try and stop the griefer there may be the necessity to skip looting.

12. Absolutely positively no drama. Violation of said rules will result in permanent disqualification of said person from future events. Any grievances should be brought to me in PM either on the forums or in game in a civil manner. Any public airing of dirty laundry over any of my events is prohibited.

13. Only raids ran by me are subject to the rules and prize payouts. I encourage others to maybe try the raid formats. But only ones led by a lelo will be official.
Prizes:

All prizes are awarded by me and at my discretion may be not awarded if I feel that said participant cheated.

Grand Prize: Any griefer who manages to cause a full party wipe will be awarded 5 large devil scales. Said griefer will also gain immediate induction into the Griefer Hall of Fame.

Bounty Prizes: Griefers will earn 20k plat for each person that dies other then the standard 1 death each character gets upon entering the portal between parts 4 and 5.

Flawless Victory Prize: Any completion with only 1 death per person will result in a 10k plat prize for each member of the raid who is not a griefer.

Griefer of the Month Award: Once every month I will award a prize to the most ingenious griefer of that month. Said prize will be posted on this thread by the 10th of that month. Award will be presented by the 10th of the following month.


The Griefer Hall of Fame







Griefer of the Month

Feb 2011

[voodoogroves]

Why play if not to have fun?

Even if I don't attend one of these, I'll watch for the stories and posts here afterwards with interest - these things amuse the heck out of me!

[~jradnut]

Sooo, Im gessin I could just keep jumping up and down on puzzles until rainbow makes it's merry way around. Or did I miss something?

[stainer]

Are you finding the day in day out relationship with this special raid growing dull?

Looking to spice up your time spent with that certain raid?

Well here may be what you are looking for.

I will be putting on multiple shroud raids every week that will have a certain subset of rules designed to create a fun atmosphere again in the shroud. The basis is that after all 12 people are in party I as the leader will roll a random 1d12 using the order of the group as shown on my screen whichever person that roll picked will be the designated griefer. This person will go the whole raid trying to impede, hinder, even wipe the rest of the group.

Raids will begin on Feb 1st

Here is the basic ruleset:

1. The griefer may use almost any available resource to him to achieve the ultimate goal of shroud party wipe. Exceptions will be noted further within the rules.

2. The griefer has exactly 2 Min from the roll to go to the bank swap spells etc. All other raid participants must immediately enter the shroud upon completion of the roll. Raid participants may not enter the first portal until the griefer has enterred the instance. All other portals are free game and can be entered at any time With the exception of the part 4 to 5 portal that causes death there will be a 1 minute timer here for people to get shrined up after which anyone may hit the portal.

3. There is no griefing the griefer. All other raid participates should be trying to complete the raid as normal. No single target spells may be cast upon the griefer but you may cast single target spells at any charms/summons of the griefer.

4. Should the griefer die he can be left dead until the end of that specific part of the shroud. He must be raised before the next altar is hit.

5. The griefer can not do anything that would prevent anyone from getting any loot. This includes breaking crystals in part 3 or placing ddoors in specific areas that would make someone be locked out at the first of the raid.

6. All raids unless otherwise specified by me in advance will be normal runs. Group makeup is generally whoever is available but to make things somewaht fair I will always try my hardest to obtain two capable fvs/cleric/bard in case 1 gets the griefer role. Ocassionally to spice up things I may do a double griefer raid or elite or all caster or similar.

7. No mana pots may be used. Most anything can be overcome through mana pots and the griefer would be at a disadvantage. Bauble's are ok. I may ask you to link a spent bauble if I notice sharp spell bar growth.

8. No griefing over voice or chat methods. Screaming over voice or spamming chat endlessly is not griefing it's uncool and not fun. Lag is not griefing nor is bugged out instances anything used with the intention of creating either is in violation of the rules.

9. This is a fun event. Those not willing to follow the above listed rules or others set aside in the future to maintain fun will be not allowed to participate in future raids.

10. This is an experienced player event only designed to relieve some of the grind feel of the raid. General knowledge of the raid is expected. If I don't know you don't be mad if I ask you to link a completed tier III shroud weapon or item. It's just so I know you have a modicum of experience in the raid.

11. Raids will be generally filled with my guildies first after which I will advertise in a general channel I will be setting up specifically for these events. Should I be unable to fill from those two methods then an lfm will be posted. If after 5 min of lfm posting if i have no replies then the raid will either be called off if under 10 people or shortmanned.
This is a raid for completion only as at times to try and stop the griefer there may be the necessity to skip looting.

12. Absolutely positively no drama. Violation of said rules will result in permanent disqualification of said person from future events. Any grievances should be brought to me in PM either on the forums or in game in a civil manner. Any public airing of dirty laundry over any of my events is prohibited.

13. Only raids ran by me are subject to the rules and prize payouts. I encourage others to maybe try the raid formats. But only ones led by a lelo will be official.
Prizes:

All prizes are awarded by me and at my discretion may be not awarded if I feel that said participant cheated.

Grand Prize: Any griefer who manages to cause a full party wipe will be awarded 5 large devil scales. Said griefer will also gain immediate induction into the Griefer Hall of Fame.

Bounty Prizes: Griefers will earn 20k plat for each person that dies other then the standard 1 death each character gets upon entering the portal between parts 4 and 5.

Flawless Victory Prize: Any completion with only 1 death per person will result in a 10k plat prize for each member of the raid who is not a griefer.

Griefer of the Month Award: Once every month I will award a prize to the most ingenious griefer of that month. Said prize will be posted on this thread by the 10th of that month. Award will be presented by the 10th of the following month.


The Griefer Hall of Fame







Griefer of the Month

Feb 2011

I can shorten the directions to this:

1. Put up LFM
2. Take the next 11 people
3. ???
4. Profit

[jurzey]

I need scales. I may join up for this one.

[KingOfCheese]

We've run quite a few of these runs--we've called them sabotage runs.

One thing we've learned: one person generally can't do enough damage to hurt.

I would recommend having 2-4 griefers (or saboteurs as we call them) to up the challenge. Four seems to be the right number for maximal enjoyment.

[KingOfCheese]

Sooo, Im gessin I could just keep jumping up and down on puzzles until rainbow makes it's merry way around. Or did I miss something?

That can be thwarted by several different techniques (which I won't mention here to give people the fun of figuring it out themselves).

[jurzey]

Sooo, Im gessin I could just keep jumping up and down on puzzles until rainbow makes it's merry way around. Or did I miss something?

Don't post your ideas, you don't want someone to use that on you! If i join and don't get to be the griefer i don't want anyone to be good at it.

[Demeron]

Really nice one:-) sadly i am on a different server. Just a suggestion would it not be more funny if u not tell who is the griefer?


Have good fun looking forward to see aome funny Strries about it!

[Irongutz2000]

If only the dance belt had more charges :(

[LeLoric]

We've run quite a few of these runs--we've called them sabotage runs.

One thing we've learned: one person generally can't do enough damage to hurt.

I would recommend having 2-4 griefers (or saboteurs as we call them) to up the challenge. Four seems to be the right number for maximal enjoyment.

This is the general plan. I still want to be completing the raids most of the time. I don't expect one person to be able to wipe a raid completely most of the time. I don't have the scale surplus to be able to provide 5 very often. Thus the reason for other prizes. I did post the possibility of multiple griefer runs etc. but the general run will just be 1 griefer for now.

[Saravis]

Lucky Roll with Kormor's Belt on healer/s at P4 and P5 = MWAHAHA!

[Anthios888]

This is AWESOME. My only problem is that I am not creative in this way. Ack!

[Undone1]

So if you have a solo healer and he is the griefer do you just hand him 5 large scales?

My guess? Many DDoors will be strategically used on portals, greater dispel on melee's, kite harry with BB, oh the humanity and comedy.

[Quarterling]

Sounds like fun! Hopefully this will take place on a Friday? If so, sign me up!

[LeLoric]

So if you have a solo healer and he is the griefer do you just hand him 5 large scales?

My guess? Many DDoors will be strategically used on portals, greater dispel on melee's, kite harry with BB, oh the humanity and comedy.

DDoors on portals/bosses etc. have already been banned but yes other methods are all fair game.

[cdemeritt]

Sounds like a good time... wish I had shroud lvl toons on ghallanda

[mattysixEU]

i'd be game, i'll hit your lfms when i'm off timer :)

[LeLoric]

Created channel

Channel name: griefer
Password: ghallanda

For those who do not know how to enter a user created channel you type

/joinchannel <channel name> <password>

So for this channel you would type /joinchannel griefer ghallanda

[dranreb]

Lucky Roll with Kormor's Belt on healer/s at P4 and P5 = MWAHAHA!

This.

And...


So if you have a solo healer and he is the griefer do you just hand him 5 large scales?

This.

I wish we had this on Argo, and yet I'm too lazy to start it myself.

[Gobbothegreen]

This sounds like the perfect shroud for me :D

Have had my fair amount of "fun" shrouds with my bard, to bad its not on argonessen.:(

[sephiroth1084]

I may have to steal this idea, Lelo!

Can you please keep a log of any successfully griefed runs?

[LeLoric]

I may have to steal this idea, Lelo!

Can you please keep a log of any successfully griefed runs?

Oh for sure there will be posts screenshots etc of any good stuff and any successful griefer will be posted to the hall of fame in the op.

[JoshuJushin]

So I'm sitting here at work, see this, and try not to crack up from laughter. I would love to be a part of this. I have a dps, healer or caster so I can jump into any role if need be. When were you thinking of running this...?

[Morlen]

Pleeeease ban FoM...

*Walks in with 100 clickies of grease.*

[krud]

count me in. I got 2 melee and 2 clerics ready to go.

[cdemeritt]

Pleeeease ban FoM...

*Walks in with 100 clickies of grease.*


FoM is a required buff... But so is Greater Dispel....


My money is on the caster most likely to pull this off... I can already think of 100 ways to make it happen...

[Blank_Zero]

Part 1? kite the first mobs around.

Part 2? Kite the red names

Part 3? Screw up puzzles, til they get around you, then just break crystals/add water too soon

4? Kite Devils

5? Kite Harry

6 ???

7 Profit!!!

Could think of more, but a PewPew might just win this one.

[SardaofChaos]

Breaking crystals or otherwise preventing loot from appearing is against the rules.

[pSINNa]

Arg! First time i wish i hadn't just TR'd my wizard!

I must have a good griefing class toon somewhere surely!. (oooohh, did someone say pew pew? :P)

Great idea OP, i'll keep my eye out for them, muahahahha.

Coit out~

[Dissindra]

hahahaha ... very cool idea, LeLoric :)

would like to watch that on YouTube, you making a video of it?

[Malky]

This... is ... awesome...

Any chance of having a drunk+griefer shroud run someday ? a fraps of this on youtube would be golden (drunk+griefer = all but the griefer are drunk, ofc)

[Maren_Vond]

+1

Really excellent idea, I will try to hit your lfms.

[Draccus]

I can't wait to run one of these.

And, is it just me, or does it sound like more fun to try to stop the griefer than to be the griefer?

Any thought to not letting anyone but the griefer know who's griefing? You could do the roll once everyone's inside and then people have to figure out who's griefing. Everyone would have to bring all their Grief Gear in case they were picked but that's not too hard to do.

[nellie]

Created channel

Channel name: griefer
Password: ghallanda

For those who do not know how to enter a user created channel you type

/joinchannel <channel name> <password>

So for this channel you would type /joinchannel griefer ghallanda


Sounds like fun Lelo!!!

what a crazy idea... to bad it all ready kind of sorta happens.. with pug groups & what nots :)

Looking forward to the chat channel :)

[sirgog]

Best griefing I've ever seen was in Part 4.

We had a mostly guild group, good enough that we could have pulled off a 1 pass part 4 even if it was Hard difficulty.

Along comes a caster that throws a Globe of Invulnerability on Harry (all lose FoM, Resist Fire and other buffs) and a Grease. Six deaths later, we recovered and beat part 4 in three passes.

[bryanmeerkat]

I have a feeling I have been on some of these raids without knowing it

[Justicesar]

Keep the ID of the griefer secret. Let the party figure out who the villian is....which may be hard at times to determine due to massive amount bad pugs currently. This will make it a bit suspensfull as everone will be waiting for the greifer to play his hand at possibly the worst moment.....then WA BAM.....part wipe......woot big fun.

[oberon131313]

I'm so in....

[Khanyth]

We have these all the time on Orien; they're called Shroud PUG's.

EDIT: I'm really just kidding.... these do seem like fun and I hope someone does indeed try this

[justplayingthegame]

This is the general plan. I still want to be completing the raids most of the time. I don't expect one person to be able to wipe a raid completely most of the time. I don't have the scale surplus to be able to provide 5 very often. Thus the reason for other prizes. I did post the possibility of multiple griefer runs etc. but the general run will just be 1 griefer for now.




don't join if you REALLY need to finish.

[justplayingthegame]

Arg! First time i wish i hadn't just TR'd my wizard!

I must have a good griefing class toon somewhere surely!. (oooohh, did someone say pew pew? :P)

Great idea OP, i'll keep my eye out for them, muahahahha.

Coit out~



you say pew pew and Nick comes to mind .

[justplayingthegame]

Are you finding the day in day out relationship with this special raid growing dull?

Looking to spice up your time spent with that certain raid?

Feb 2011




we did this already, well sort of.
about a year ago we were dinking around during the day, with a typical raid channel group that stayed together.

some one got REALLLY bored, no names <cough> < cough> Jaer,,..

We did the red alert and griefer, for shroud.

rolled random for base assignments in edragon, with no actual building for the raid. I.E Bards/base control.

and for TOD i think we did a D- roll for healer, seems like we had alot of bards.


all in all I like this ,,,how do you say it in engrish. organized griefing ?

[SardaofChaos]

don't join if you REALLY need to finish.

He's running this event. He can do what he wants with the rules.

[Draugkir]

the half the team dead method is interesting too.. everyone rolls d100 and the 6 who rolled lower do /death till the end of raid.

The 6 ones alive will carry each one stone of the dead ppl.

[Aurora999]

This is just brilliant :D

Any objections if I steal your idea?

[Asirin]

Leave it to Lelo to come up with this.

Pretty cool man.

Although I think there should be TWO griefers!!

[ainmosni]

Leave it to Lelo to come up with this.

Pretty cool man.

Although I think there should be TWO griefers!!

I bet lelo could tell us the expected exact % increase chance of failure when doubling the number of griefers, based on class of said griefers.

[Lonnbeimnech]

Pleeeease ban FoM...

*Walks in with 100 clickies of grease.*

http://ddowiki.com/page/Globe_of_Invulnerability

[pyntsized]

so from what ive heard, and what I know, the best griefing would come from a wizzy with high DC mass charm, globe of invuln and high DCgrease. Oh and stopping the party from killing the 4 mobs in pt 2/3 (forgot which cuz I'm 'newish to shroud)

[Uska]

Hmm sounds like fun to do for a change now and then I am up for it at some point I have several characters qualified a monk, a rogue, paladin, cleric, bard