6 man guild renown question

[Gramh]

Me and some friends decided to throw together a new guild, and have it be a small 6 man guild to take advantage of the renown bonus and renown decay at higher levels. I think to myself "well irestone's always been good to me" so i throw down on a quick run, figure i'll get at least a heroic deed or two. Came out of that empty handed, and zilch on the end reward as well which was always a go to for renown. I figured it must have been because i was above quest level, so i didn't think much of it. Then today i run through the orchard for sigils, and find that i'm having the same drought. 4 runs, no renown in chests, and only one heroic deed for end reward.

So far the guild is level 6, with 4 members, and i'm wondering where in all the math of it we went wrong. Does guild renown drops base themselves on the guild level, to suppress a small group of level 20's from making a new guild at power-leveling it, or is it because of the smaller membership of the guild that we're losing out?

[Praya20]

Well my guild has about 40+members and 60+ toons, and i get the same as your getting wen i run for favor on my 20, not even a mesely 5 for mobs... so im guessing you must be at or close to level??

[Gramh]

I was running a lvl 16 toon for those quests.

[Adalita]

My experience is that you need to be at or below the quest level to get renown, I think the Orchard lists as a lvl 14 area?

The flip side of this is that if you are running quests significantly above your level then the renown is increased. I had a couple of triple-TRs run me through Threnal on elite, and I think I got more renown in that couple of hours that I had in the last week.

[Gramh]

i just ran Haverdasher on normal twice with a level 1 toon (quest level 2) and managed out with a whole whopping 17 guild renown (5 base + 12 bonus). Nothing from the chests. It seems they have the renown drops scaled to the guild size or the guild level, but i'm not sure which. If it's guild level and will go away after a while, that's fine. If it's guild size, then there's a problem. Why tease with the 300% bonus to renown if the game is only going to drop maybe a heroic deed every 20 chests and end reward?

[TheBroken_JPK]

The Shipwrecked Spy is an excellent renown quest. There is a max possible 5 chest, and a guaranteed 4. Extremely fast quest.

Its a level 18 quest.