Solo Raid healer build

[vvildfire]

Im looking for a build that can solo heal on raids with min use of pots I run a few DPS build now that I am good with but want to try my hand at healer for high end content. this will not be a TR because I dont have anyone I want to TR.

[Impaqt]

Im looking for a build that can solo heal on raids with min use of pots I run a few DPS build now that I am good with but want to try my hand at healer for high end content. this will not be a TR because I dont have anyone I want to TR.

Solo healing is more about playstyle than it is Build.

any reasonable Cleric or FvS build can solo heal. Its the player behind the keyboard that makes the difference.

[mws2970]

Check this link out. It might be to your liking.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=268346

[redraider]

Not much build to talk about. Any race FVS with max CHA and the normal spell point and potency items should be fully capable.

Same goes for Clr but the FVS spell point pool is about 1000 points higher and therefore has more room for error (and lag heal fails...)

[KingOfCheese]

One factor not to ignore is your own survivability. If you are dead, you can't solo heal.

A big part of this is tactics. But having 500+ hps certainly doesn't hurt (esp. on things like epic DQ if you don't have evasion).

[Steveohio]

Yes, any healer can solo heal raids (aside chrono)

Don't ever fall for the "healbot" trap. You dont need max chr, or to suck at melee/casting in order to heal, you should aim to do heals + something else besides piking.

[Impaqt]

Not much build to talk about. Any race FVS with max CHA and the normal spell point and potency items should be fully capable.

Same goes for Clr but the FVS spell point pool is about 1000 points higher and therefore has more room for error (and lag heal fails...)

1000? wow I must be doing something wrong...

My clerics have 2200-2300+ SPellPoints. My highest spell point pool on my FvS's is about 2900.

A Clerics Aura and Bursts make up for a LOT of that difference when payed well.

[Chette]

Don't go pure heal specced, it's just a waste of a character. Make an offensive casting specced character and you'll still be an amazing healer. FvS or Cleric, it doesn't matter. One gets more SP, one gets enough free-healing bursts to make up for it. Max wisdom and have a good amount of constitution.

[PNellesen]

Solo healing is more about playstyle than it is Build.

any reasonable Cleric or FvS build can solo heal. Its the player behind the keyboard that makes the difference.

It's also the players behind the OTHER keyboards that make a difference too ;)

Remember, you can't heal stupid no matter HOW good you are, or how many pots you have (and boy, did I go through a few pots before I figured that out :p )

[vvildfire]

well i under stand the player but with all the raids i have done in the shroud and healers not able to cut it i was thinking there might of been a build problem with that right now im thinking more of feat wise. right now im thinking a human clr with highten healing, max, ext spell, spell pent. still looking at the rest of my feats

i know i will be geting Aura and Bursts heals and all the life and healing lines

[protokon]

in order to get a grasp on your playstyle, you may want to include a few details to your inquiry to help narrow down healing type builds.
-is your goal just massive amounts of SP to dump?
-do you want evasion?
-do you prefer the cleric Pre radiant servant or the favored soul leap of faith ability?
-is the race important to you? if so, what race is preferred?

if you can answer those questions we can give you a better answer to your request.


1000? wow I must be doing something wrong...

My clerics have 2200-2300+ SPellPoints. My highest spell point pool on my FvS's is about 2900.

A Clerics Aura and Bursts make up for a LOT of that difference when payed well.

This.

I have 2 capped clerics and 2 capped favored souls, and one thing all of them have in common is 400+ hitpoints (2 of them break 500)

Impact made a good point in his previous post too; solo healing isn't so much the build as it is the player. Not everyone can be a solo raid healer, not everyone has the twitching ability it takes to make up for bad situations - for instance, when a tod tank dies from disintegrate and the party scrambles to figure out who now has the aggro. or when the caster dies on 3rd base in epic von6. or when...

managing your metamagics, clickies (abbot gear is AWESOME), scrolls and timing your mass cures correctly all takes practice.

shroud part 4 is an excellent place to practice SP conservation, in my opinion, for a novice cleric. can you end with 25% of your SP left? how about 50%? letting that 200hp rogue die can be the difference between using SP pots and having plenty of SP to spare.

[Dendrix]

Not much build to talk about. Any race FVS with max CHA and the normal spell point and potency items should be fully capable.


For a fvs just need 12 cha. +2 tome +2 capstone +3 enhancement. = can cast mass heal.
More than that is a waste

[Chette]

well i under stand the player but with all the raids i have done in the shroud and healers not able to cut it i was thinking there might of been a build problem with that right now im thinking more of feat wise. right now im thinking a human clr with highten healing, max, ext spell, spell pent. still looking at the rest of my feats

i know i will be geting Aura and Bursts heals and all the life and healing lines

In 99% of cases it's not a build problem, it's a player problem. Might be the cleric, might be the melees. I've solo healed a shroud on my battle FvS with only quicken and maximize as casting feats with no problem, and I've been in failed shrouds with pure healing specced clerics because there wasn't enough DPS in part 4 and 1/2 the melees had 300 hit points.

What it usually comes down to is knowing what your party can do and how much healing they need. Most people can survive the cooldown on mass heal in parts 4 and 5 of shroud, epic dragon, etc. Most. A few can't. You may need to throw them a spot heat from time to time. The majority of clerics and FvS also quite simply over heal. They top up the party with inefficient mass-cures, they don't use their auras and bursts if they have them, they heal warforged casters, they don't carry scrolls for single target tank healing situations.

[protokon]

well i under stand the player but with all the raids i have done in the shroud and healers not able to cut it i was thinking there might of been a build problem with that right now im thinking more of feat wise. right now im thinking a human clr with highten healing, max, ext spell, spell pent. still looking at the rest of my feats

i know i will be geting Aura and Bursts heals and all the life and healing lines

if human I would recommend these feats:
-quicken
-empower heal
-extend
-maximize
-empower
-toughness
-heighten (if you are not playing as an evoker, you can dump this one too for something else)
-mental toughness (this one is the least important, could swap it out for something else if desired.)

starting stats are pretty flexible depending on what you want to do. here's a simple setup I would recommend:
8 strength
8 dexterity
16 constitution
8 intelligence
18 wisdom
14 charisma
(if you only have access to 28-point builds, start with 14 con instead)
dump skillpoints into concentration and balance.

if your goal is to max out your spellpoint pool and max out the DC's of your spells, this is a strong build. dump all leveling points into wisdom and you can get high 30's easily, even low 40's with exceptional end-game gear.

[Shamurai]

1000? wow I must be doing something wrong...

My clerics have 2200-2300+ SPellPoints. My highest spell point pool on my FvS's is about 2900.

A Clerics Aura and Bursts make up for a LOT of that difference when payed well.

I'm thinking my 20 Cleric is way undergeared... Her SP is like 1800 (34 Wisdom) with Wiz VI on Lorricks

Could get +50 more with Archmagi (+200) SP adder ==>1850SP
Items yet to make:
+50/ +100 = +150 SP Shroud Item. ==> 2000 SP

how can I acquire another 200-300 SP?

[protokon]

how can I acquire another 200-300 SP?

Grab rakhir's sash in amrath, and I would recommend trying to get the ring out of TOD because the set bonus actually stacks for your healing crits as well - the belt has archmagi and a superior efficacy 8 clickie (another 50% on top of your mass cure spells, 1 minute clicky -3 charges)
-put +2 exceptional wisdom on your ring to boost your wisdom to 36.

make an SP greensteel accessory. tiers 2 and 3 SP stacks with archmagi, I would recommend a concordant opposition cloak - tier 1 blindness, disease immmunity / tier 2 +50 SP, +2 cha skills / tier 3 +100 SP, +3 cha skills

if you are not willing to spend the larges (since conc opp is a double-shard requiring 5 large scales, 6 large stones) a triple-air cloak is nice too, for the air guard - which randomly trips things or casts a 30 second haste on you. also has 3 haste clickies which is nice for a cleric.

I would dump lorriks necklace too - get the warchanter necklace, it will give you superior potency VI(the set bonus is also very nice for clerics - efficient metamagic maximize, cuts 4sp off the cost of maximize and 1sp off of extend)

that should get you at least 200+ SP just from the belt and from the SP item.

[Chette]

I'm thinking my 20 Cleric is way undergeared... Her SP is like 1800 (34 Wisdom) with Wiz VI on Lorricks

Could get +50 more with Archmagi (+200) SP adder ==>1850SP
Items yet to make:
+50/ +100 = +150 SP Shroud Item. ==> 2000 SP

how can I acquire another 200-300 SP?

Yes I'm a little surprised that a cleric that isn't completely sp/heal specced can get to 2200-2300. My cleric hits 38 wisdom with a ship buff and has about 2200 sp, but, she is a completely gimped heal-specced cleric (my first toon) with mental toughness and improved mental toughness that will be TRing one of these days to get rid of those and pick up empower and heighten. With more appropriate feats I think she will be sitting right around 2000.

My FvS on the other hand has about 2700. By my estimations two equally built devines (i.e. both pure offensive casters with high wisdom and appropriate feats) will have an sp difference of around 750.


Grab rakhir's sash in amrath, and I would recommend trying to get the ring out of TOD because the set bonus actually stacks for your healing crits as well - the belt has archmagi and a superior efficacy 8 clickie (another 50% on top of your mass cure spells, 1 minute clicky -3 charges)
-put +2 exceptional wisdom on your ring to boost your wisdom to 36.

make an SP greensteel accessory. tiers 2 and 3 SP stacks with archmagi, I would recommend a concordant opposition cloak - tier 1 blindness, disease immmunity / tier 2 +50 SP, +2 cha skills / tier 3 +100 SP, +3 cha skills

if you are not willing to spend the larges (since conc opp is a double-shard requiring 5 large scales, 6 large stones) a triple-air cloak is nice too, for the air guard - which randomly trips things or casts a 30 second haste on you. also has 3 haste clickies which is nice for a cleric.

I would dump lorriks necklace too - get the warchanter necklace, it will give you superior potency VI(the set bonus is also very nice for clerics - efficient metamagic maximize, cuts 4sp off the cost of maximize and 1sp off of extend)

that should get you at least 200+ SP just from the belt and from the SP item.

He already mentioned archmagi and a shroud item. He is asking how to get 200-300 sp on top of those items to match the numbers Impaqt cited.

[protokon]

He already mentioned archmagi and a shroud item. He is asking how to get 200-300 sp on top of those items to match the numbers Impaqt cited.

well the only other options I can think of are mental toughness / improved mental toughness (which I think are a waste), enhancements, and a higher wisdom score. you could also include the mysterious bauble clickie too since it can potentially proc for 500SP, a significant boost to your SP pool without using pots.

ways to boost wisdom on a human cleric:
+18 starting
+5 level-up points
+7 item
+4 tome
+1 litany
+3 exceptional item(s)
+2 ship shrine
+1 human
+3 cleric enhancements
+2 yugo pot
...ends up being about 46 maximum. my cleric sits at 43 atm (I have litany and +4 wisdom tome, I don't have the +7 helmet yet)

I sit at just under 2200 spell points with that setup. no improved mental toughness, I do have mental toughness though I think.

[Shamurai]

well the only other options I can think of are mental toughness / improved mental toughness (which I think are a waste), enhancements, and a higher wisdom score. you could also include the mysterious bauble clickie too since it can potentially proc for 500SP, a significant boost to your SP pool without using pots.

ways to boost wisdom on a human cleric:
+18 starting - CHECK!
+5 level-up points - CHECK!
+7 item - Just +6 ATM
+4 tome - +2 (with a +3 in the bank)
+1 litany - Never done the Raid :(
+3 exceptional item(s) - 0 Exceptional Currently
+2 ship shrine - My Guild.. is um... Low.
+1 human - CHECK!
+3 cleric enhancements - +2 of this
+2 yugo pot - I can't ever seem to get 75 Yugo favor on any toon.. it's not easy!
...ends up being about 46 maximum. my cleric sits at 43 atm (I have litany and +4 wisdom tome, I don't have the +7 helmet yet)

I sit at just under 2200 spell points with that setup. no improved mental toughness, I do have mental toughness though I think.

LOL Bauble.... 20+ runs on various toons.. never even seen one in the chest (for ANYONE!)

Thanks for the tips.. I'd like to bump it up to 40 WIS at the very least... will help with my Destruction Casting as well.

[Impaqt]

I'm thinking my 20 Cleric is way undergeared... Her SP is like 1800 (34 Wisdom) with Wiz VI on Lorricks

Could get +50 more with Archmagi (+200) SP adder ==>1850SP
Items yet to make:
+50/ +100 = +150 SP Shroud Item. ==> 2000 SP

how can I acquire another 200-300 SP?

hers one of mine
http://my.ddo.com/character/thelanis/alandael/

2281 without Ship buffs or yugo pot.

1205 L20 Base
200 Archmagi (Bracers of the glacier)
150 Concordant Opposition Item
406 (38 Wis Bonus SP)
210 MT and IMT
110 EotZ IV
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2291

Hmmm I seem to be missing 10 Spell Points...

[Chette]

hers one of mine
http://my.ddo.com/character/thelanis/alandael/

2281 without Ship buffs or yugo pot.

Do you have mental toughness/improved mental toughness?

[Impaqt]

Do you have mental toughness/improved mental toughness?

yes, detailed in previous post for ya.

[Niktoo]

My FvS on the other hand has about 2700. By my estimations two equally built devines (i.e. both pure offensive casters with high wisdom and appropriate feats) will have an sp difference of around 750.
.

That's a good estimate. A Healbot FvS can get up to 875 more than a Healbot cleric, their base sps at level 20 are 1730 and 1205, respectively, with the FvS getting double from items(another 350).

Most FvS builds do not drop offense and crowd control completely for a measly 125sp, so 750 is a more realistic number.

[Shamurai]

hers one of mine
http://my.ddo.com/character/thelanis/alandael/

2281 without Ship buffs or yugo pot.

1205 L20 Base
200 Archmagi (Bracers of the glacier)
150 Concordant Opposition Item
406 (38 Wis Bonus SP)
210 MT and IMT
110 EotZ IV
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2291

Hmmm I seem to be missing 10 Spell Points...

Ah that's it then, I don't have the Mental Toughness Feats... 210 SP for that
a few points for the extra 4 WIS points - 58 SP

(I checked I have the Braciers of the Glacier actually, and a Concordoant Opp Item - just not an SP conc opp item - Yet)

and hm.. I think only 3 levels of EotZ.. I'm gonna give Faithy a lil overhaul when I get hom thanks Impaqt!!

[vvildfire]

well my play style right now it twitchy I play a light monk and I am good at keeping ATH on the healers and casters as well as switching gear and attack types.. I also play a Wiz. i am good at conserving SP and changing gear to make the most of my spells and keeping good CC and poping the random stone skin to keep people alive at times.

as for what I will be building im thinking human for the ex feat and I like the idea or healing burst and aura's. i have player healers in othere games and done vary well and way trying to stray away in DDO but im thinking its time to go back to my healing roots and since i have not play a DDO healer in ddo im not sure what i can do with it. so thats about how I play when i get home tonight i will post somthing i had in mind and from the infor you have all given me today

[Shamurai]

Oh you will love the Bursts and Aura's!! My Faithy has like 18 Turns... so thats a LOT of free healing!