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Bracosius
01-14-2011, 12:35 PM
I enjoy PvP. Call me immature, taunt my epeen, whatever, but I do get a certain satisfaction when I defeat another player. Sometimes the only way to express the joy is with a well timed corpse hump. But all this aside, DDO is not the place for this.

I recently decided to venture into the Lobster to check the state of PvP in DDO. I went in with a fighter. There were a few people in the pit so I jumped in. I was quickly hit with many spells and died fast. Fair enough, next I buffed up and chose a target. I picked a warforge that looked like a caster, I wasn't sure because he had so many buffs it went off my screen and I could not see his class when I inspected him. I charged him, made it to him, tripped him, and killed him. Soon after the other people around me burned me out once again. No problem, but then the tells started, the warforged wanted to know why I was such a jerk and why I would kill him with a lvl 19 character, he was only lvl 11! So I did what anyone would do, charge him again. This time I didn't make it there, I was shot in the back by an arcane archer and saw the dreaded 500 damage hit.

I stayed for a while and jumped in numerous times, I also loaded in other classes and tried them out. My conclusion is that DDO is not the game for PvP. It's true that the classes are not balanced, it's true that the PvP area is too small, but it should not be changed.

The same things that make PvP horrible in DDO are the same things that make the PvE amazing. Would I like to have the perfect game with great PvE and PvP, who wouldn't? But it will never happen, it can't. DDO does not follow arbitrary rules, it follows rules that assume everyone will be working together. To balance classes in any way would break the game.

I am to the point of acceptance and will play another game to get my PvP fix, but when I want to play the best PvE in the industry, I will be back to DDO. I encourage other people that enjoy PvP but want DDO to overhaul the game to accept reality. Instead of begging for DDO to become a PvP friendly game, play something else.

samthedagger
01-14-2011, 12:42 PM
I cast "summon h4x0rific"

Rubiconn
01-14-2011, 12:45 PM
Well said +1 to you for stating the obvious.

Memnir
01-14-2011, 12:47 PM
Does -Rep count as PvP?
If it does, then these forums at least are very much a PvP game.

Broldin
01-14-2011, 12:49 PM
Simple but true, it is almost impossible to balance a game for both PvP and PvE. This has been understood since the old days of EQ 10+ years ago. It's nice that turbine included the option to tinker around with it. It is also good to see they aren't trying to bend the more inportant elements of the game to make it work.

I play MMO's for PvE.

I play Black Ops for PvP.

I have no desire to see them in the same place. Cobining 2 good things does not necessarily result in something twice as good.

Lorien_the_First_One
01-14-2011, 12:51 PM
Well said OP, +rep

MrWizard
01-14-2011, 12:56 PM
actually pvp is fine in ddo..

if you use ranged weapons...


just a jab, it is humor ya'all

Mudcnd
01-14-2011, 01:23 PM
i Cast "summon H4x0rific"

Lol!

Zaodon
01-14-2011, 01:29 PM
DDO has PvP ?

:D

cyberglammie
01-14-2011, 01:31 PM
+1
So true im not a pvp fan at all , but understand others are ... DDo just isnt for them its for me ;) lol

Hambo
01-14-2011, 02:04 PM
Simple but true, it is almost impossible to balance a game for both PvP and PvE. This has been understood since the old days of EQ 10+ years ago. It's nice that turbine included the option to tinker around with it. It is also good to see they aren't trying to bend the more inportant elements of the game to make it work.

I play MMO's for PvE.

I play Black Ops for PvP.

I have no desire to see them in the same place. Cobining 2 good things does not necessarily result in something twice as good.

You mean my idea for chocolate and pate won't work? I already have the perfect name...

"Geeses Anatidae Liver Cups" :D

flynnjsw
01-14-2011, 02:09 PM
You mean my idea for chocolate and pate won't work? I already have the perfect name...

"Geeses Anatidae Liver Cups" :D

/vomit

Chai
01-14-2011, 02:16 PM
I cast "summon h4x0rific"

Readied action goes off.

/rolls spell craft check, succeeds.

I counterspell with the same spell at the same level.