Wizard Pale Master, immune to stuns, dances and mind control?

[Majere_Aumar]

Can someone tell me which of the following the Pale Master wizard in lich or wraith form is NOT immune to?

Monk's Kukan Do
Bard's Song of Capering
Bard's Music of the Dead
Bard's Fascinate
Arcane's Ottos Irresistable Dance
Arcane's Power Word Stun
Cleric's Greater Command

If there are any other incapacitating effects which they are not immune to can you please list?

[chrisgina39]

contral undead(yes the charm it works lol)
halt undead
chill touch

[Majere_Aumar]

is that confirmed?

what about the other stuff, are they immune to those?

[Cartheron]

Pale masters are not immune to power word stun (assuming they fullful hp criteria;))

[kanbeki]

Pale masters can also be hit with turn undead, Not sure about Kukan-do but I have been hit with tomb of jade and got owned by a shintao

[Jacaroma]

And this guy above me is mad!

[h4x0r1f1c]

No: Monk's Kukan Do
Immune: Bard's Song of Capering
idk: Bard's Music of the Dead
No: Bard's Fascinate
Immune: Arcane's Ottos Irresistable Dance
No: Arcane's Power Word Stun
idk: Cleric's Greater Command

Power Word Stun they're immune if 451 HP or higher.

Greater Command anyone is immune with Protection from Evil. (If you're playing with debuffs, wear a Fragment of the Silver Flame or Silver Flame Talisman)

[Majere_Aumar]

After some testing tonight ... in wraith form

immune: Bard's Song of Capering
not immune: Bard's Music of the Dead (but broke in 2 secondish)
immune: Bard's Fascinate
immune: Bard's Enthrall

[96th_Malice]

NOT immune to

Greater Undead Bane and Slayers !!

Thats all I need to know !

:)

[go21134]

IIRC Pale Masters are immune to Greater Command. I remembered casting it with my Cleric on my buddie once, wraith form, however he was buffed and may of had Prot. Evil casted on.

I can second the Charm (Command Undead) as we all giggled when we saw him with a shiny-purple hat.


Pale masters can also be hit with turn undead, Not sure about Kukan-do but I have been hit with tomb of jade and got owned by a shintao

None of my turns have ever gotten him to halt or die (Rad II) though I could retry and see if I can look up him and answer some of these questions. I'll see if I can get some SS as well. If you could show me a picture of a turned Pale Master, that would be awesome :)

[go21134]

Greater Command = Immunity
Turn (with a L20 Rad II Cleric against a L20 Pale Master (Lich) ) = No effect

However, I did hear him talk about how a paladin using the Divine light effect was able to stun him, though I am not sure it was exactly Divine Light, but how he described it sounded much like that effect.

[xTethx]

They arent immune to cometfall then 2 searing lights followed by deific vengeance :)

[Cryohazard]

They arent immune to cometfall then 2 searing lights followed by deific vengeance :)

this is painfully true

[Yajerman01]

They arent immune to cometfall then 2 searing lights followed by deific vengeance :)


I just want to know why it took you so many spells? :)

[heyytoi]

I just want to know why it took you so many spells? :)

because he dont need empower/maximize to kill ya!

[Yajerman01]

because he dont need empower/maximize to kill ya!

well were not talking about me nor was your statement sensical to mine.

[heyytoi]

well were not talking about me nor was your statement sensical to mine.
smeh

[Majere_Aumar]

comet fall, meet ioun stone + balance items. 2 second time out is not gonna do anything to a pm.

[heyytoi]

comet fall, meet ioun stone + balance items. 2 second time out is not gonna do anything to a pm.

1k dmg comet falls will sure do the job

Meteor swarm cliki are easy to get, goodbye ioun stone

And dont forget about searing lights and deific!!!!

PM is a joke imo for pvp, they cant heal as fast as normal WFs casters...Of course all those lil immunities are cute but it doesnt make them any stronger vs healers. The only way PM makes a difference is because if a clr/fvs targets you and click any healing spells nothing will happen. Your not getting damaged even if you are a undead and the healer isnt getting his heal since hes *attacking you with healing*

But if you have a minimum of skills its easy to get by.

I would also like to say that PvP is awesome.

[hityawithastick]

As far as I've seen, no enchantment [mind-affecting] spells, powers, whatever, will hit a PM. Chill touch will cause fear, although fearsome armor will not. PWS will stop us :D Dancing will not. Enthrall still lands (such a pain!).
If you absolutely, positively need to stop a Pale Master, try Halt Undead. It's like hypnotism for dead people. ;)

(Also, we're not immune to blindness)

Edit:
PvP is awesome.

As regards warforged...it's just so entertaining to watch them running around failing all their saves and trying to fix themselves up. :D And then before you know it, ding! Toast's done!

And clerics...well, I don't fight clerics. >_>;;

[Habreno]

As far as I've seen, no enchantment [mind-affecting] spells, powers, whatever, will hit a PM. Chill touch will cause fear, although fearsome armor will not. PWS will stop us :D Dancing will not. Enthrall still lands (such a pain!).
If you absolutely, positively need to stop a Pale Master, try Halt Undead. It's like hypnotism for dead people. ;)

(Also, we're not immune to blindness)

Edit:
PvP is awesome.

As regards warforged...it's just so entertaining to watch them running around failing all their saves and trying to fix themselves up. :D And then before you know it, ding! Toast's done!

And clerics...well, I don't fight clerics. >_>;;

You should, we're pretty squishy when we're trying to fail our saves against your stuns/holds/instant kills :P


In all reality, never try to melee a l17+ cleric if your fort save sucks. More importantly, stay out of the PVP arena if your fort save sucks. We will make mincemeat out of you. And then we will hold you and watch as you eat dual Heavy Picks with +8 seeker bonuses when you finally make that fort save.

In all reality, if played right, Clerics, and any other class, can be beast at PVP. Let's see, I can hold you, Cometfall you then cast a Defic Vengence on you, throw up an Implosion aura and get the melees off me, use a Radiant Servant to epicly own that Pale Master that's trying to cast Delayed Blast Fireball on me, and all while running my own healing aura, spellpoint and Platnium free :D

Back to the OP: PM Wiz.

The game should allow them to be "healed" or "cured" just to negate that half of their OPishness. But, they are PM for a reason. They need some boosts for certain things and nerfs in others. PVP needs a nerf. If I could trigger my aura 100% of the time I would too :D

[Teharahma]

contral undead(yes the charm it works lol)
halt undead
chill touch

Control Undead - Prot Evil
Halt Undead - Fom
Chill Touch, you need to get close.

I don't get it.