Is it just me, or does anyone else feel red fens items are missing autment slots?

[AMDarkwolf]

I don't think that every item in red fens should get slots, but it just feels like they are missing an augment slot on 1/2 of each set, like they are 'missing' something that most other epic items have, the ability to customize them somewhat, and with them NOT having slots, we end up with lots of tokens and nothing(but TR) to spend them on lol


So really, is it just me in this school of thought that red fens epic items got forgotten in some part of the design process?

[rest]

They probably weren't given augment slots because they're pretty easy to make, and everyone is guaranteed a shard from the end quest.

[AMDarkwolf]

House P and Sent pack items are pretty easy to make, maybe more so. They have slots. Most of them feel 'complete'


Red fen epics are ok, but i feel half of them could use a yellow or colorless slot(Again this is not overpowered/game breaking at all, it just a +6 stat or a +1 exp, nothing that would make the item a better choice than most of the stuff from other packs, also gives a reason to 'spend' tokens, which red fens does not supply.)

[Carpone]

The sought after epic Red Fens items are fine and don't need an augment.

The craptastic epic Red Fens items need a revamp, not an augment slot.

[Ookami007]

They all need augment slots. Most - if not all - are not worth it singularly... and I'd argue that few sets are worth the two slots they take.

Venom set... seriously.... it's epic and only MARGINALLY better than Tharnes, which is easy to get and non-epic. The poison proc doesn't work on epics and the 20% reduction is not really needed. The sneak attack bonus on the ring is WORSE than Tharnes, and while it does give +4... it's still very lackluster. A slot of two on both would help.

The claw set IS nice. Neither item really stands on it's own, but the set bonus is decent - ONLY decent. Compare that to epic charged gauntlets, which do 20d6 on crits - and on a single item slot.

Perhaps it's me and my disdain for set bonuses, but I don't find the Fens sets very well thought out.

Please re-tool and slot those babies.

[Qezuzu]

Venom set... seriously.... it's epic and only MARGINALLY better than Tharnes, which is easy to get and non-epic. The poison proc doesn't work on epics and the 20% reduction is not really needed. The sneak attack bonus on the ring is WORSE than Tharnes, and while it does give +4... it's still very lackluster. A slot of two on both would help.

The necklace gives Superior False life, and is one of the very few items to give this effect.

The Poison will chew up anything that isn't epic. It certainly isn't useful in epics but it will hit occasionally.

The Ring gives backstabbing, like Tharnes, but is -1 and -2 to attack and damage, respectively. If you're fine with losing that then the ring could free up the goggles slot, though Tharne's does also have True Seeing.

It's nowhere near as bad as you're making it out to be, but for a set that replaces a ToD set it certainly is unappealing.


The claw set IS nice. Neither item really stands on it's own

Are you kidding? The Gloves give 30% healing Amp: That's the highest in the game, and the only good source of it. It's also +6 STR.

The bracers are heavy fort, which can free up Minos, and +2 EXC CON, which frees up a ToD ring.


but the set bonus is decent - ONLY decent. Compare that to epic charged gauntlets, which do 20d6 on crits - and on a single item slot.

Charged Gauntlets do 20d6 in a VORPAL ONLY, 1 in 20 attacks. This translates to 3.5 additional damage a hit.

Epic claw set does an additional 4 per hit. It also translates to higher critical hits. Using a Kohpesh with the Imp Critcal: Slash feat, you'll miss on a 1, get an additional 4 on roll 2-16 (60), and get an additional 12 on 17-20 (48). So in 20 hits, the Claw set does 108 damage, while the Gauntlets does 70.



I would be fine with the Fens items getting slots. Some of the sets should definitely be redone, too.

But IMO many of the items are really good even by themselves.

[AMDarkwolf]

I agree with that. Esp with the gem. This is why my suggestion would be for the sets that we ahve, example: ravens eye set, give the gloves a yellow slot. This way u can choose, the slot and glove or some other item and bypass the augment slot(with the gem)

The claw set alone is very nice, and the items 'solo' are decent as well, so if anything i'd only give the bracers a colorless slot(Not yellow, doesn't need that, has exp con 2 and heavy fort already, which are 2 of the things one would slot with a yellow)

The other sets(Sacred set comes to mind) needs a 'fix' to make it worth using, even on a toon 'speced' for that. (Seems to me that set provides bonuses too easily acquired on non epic gear)

[Maegin]

They all need augment slots. Most - if not all - are not worth it singularly... and I'd argue that few sets are worth the two slots they take.

Venom set... seriously.... it's epic and only MARGINALLY better than Tharnes, which is easy to get and non-epic. The poison proc doesn't work on epics and the 20% reduction is not really needed. The sneak attack bonus on the ring is WORSE than Tharnes, and while it does give +4... it's still very lackluster. A slot of two on both would help.

The claw set IS nice. Neither item really stands on it's own, but the set bonus is decent - ONLY decent. Compare that to epic charged gauntlets, which do 20d6 on crits - and on a single item slot.

Perhaps it's me and my disdain for set bonuses, but I don't find the Fens sets very well thought out.

Please re-tool and slot those babies.

compairing RAID LOOT to something you can SOLO FARM for, is ********. No offence.

[AMDarkwolf]

Im sorry. is DT raid loot now? is IQ items raid loot now? Is the new items from the u8 pack raid loot?

Well sheesh. Curious when they made THAT stealth change.

[waterboytkd]

I would agree that they should all have augment slots. Other, amazing epic items have them (Helm/Belt of Mroranon, Spectral Gloves, SWORD OF SHADOWS). It seems like they took away the slots because of the set bonus, but that's sucky. You have to devout 2 item slots to get the bonus, which is actually really harsh when you're twinking out a toon at level 20. Give them a slot each. It'd elevate them from being meh and the claw set to good and the claw set.

[Veileira]

Are you kidding? The Gloves give 30% healing Amp: That's the highest in the game, and the only good source of it. It's also +6 STR.

The bracers are heavy fort, which can free up Minos, and +2 EXC CON, which frees up a ToD ring.

Bracers are amazing. However the +6 str on the gloves is not so amazing. If you're a melee, you probably have +6 str on a TOD ring, or are going for +7 str in dragon helm or belt, or both. I would much rather see the +6 str changed to a colorless or yellow.

[Qezuzu]

Bracers are amazing. However the +6 str on the gloves is not so amazing. If you're a melee, you probably have +6 str on a TOD ring, or are going for +7 str in dragon helm or belt, or both. I would much rather see the +6 str changed to a colorless or yellow.

That was an off note.

The real juiciness of the gloves is the huge HAmp.