Remember blind tells are fine, blind invites are rude

[shaolaolint]

So just a quick reminder to the newbs and noobs. A blind tell is fine if it's done politely and tactfully. A blind invite is just rude. Nothing worse than soloing a boss and then this big box in your way that Johnny Stranger who can't learn manners or where the CSW pots guy is, has sent you an invite.

I got one the other day as I was LRing my FVS, Nicoheal. Some jerk (I know, anonymity), sends an invite. I decline. He immediately sends a tell of what quest he's doing. I Politely explain how blind invites are rude. He then sends a ? As if I still should join his rude ass. Itgen politely say his he is lucky I don't put him on my DNG list and he should carry on. He then replies with a rude message. I /squelch him now, no need to draw out more drama. I look him up and see he's from some no name guild, and laugh that if that's how he treats "healers" at mid levels, he will have ****ed us all off soon enough and he'll never see the vale until he rolls a healer.

And the day he does I hope he's cursed with blind invites every day from login till logoff

/end rant

[Mellifera]

I found a new way to be irritated by them. I'd just rolled up a coin farming alt, had gotten off the ship, and was in the process of equipping my starter armor when I get hit with an invite. I click decline and politely /tell this guy that most players find them rude. That's when I noticed my dwarf is standing around in just her underbritches. Opening my inventory revealed my armor had vanished. Nice.

At least it was only starter gear instead of something I'd saved for twinkage.

[MrWizard]

i just accept, and continue my solo questing or shopping,,,and ignore them..it is the only way to stop incessant blind invites from same person...


to heck with them...

[brian14]

What exactly is "blind invite"? And what would be "non-blind invite"?

[biggin]

What exactly is "blind invite"? And what would be "non-blind invite"?

A blind invite is inviting someone to your party that you had no prior contact. Basically just looking through the "Who" list and inviting people you don't know.

[ZeroTakenaka]

What exactly is "blind invite"? And what would be "non-blind invite"?

A blind invite sends a pop-up box saying that you want to invite them to a party with no prior contact beforehand.

A 'non-blind invite' is a blind tell... You /tell the person and wait for an answer if they want to do a quest with you based on difficulty/questname before sending an invite.

[Dex]

I would also add that a blind invite means you don't have an lfg flag on.

Squelch all the blind inviters, maybe they will learn some manners.


A blind invite sends a pop-up box saying that you want to invite them to a party with no prior contact beforehand.

[Cam_Neely]

What exactly is "blind invite"? And what would be "non-blind invite"?

Blind Invite (Incorrect):
/invite Brian14

non-blind Invite (correct)

/t Brian14 Hey man, thinking of running though WW on hard, wanna come?

if (Brian14=Yes, /invite Brian14, post in social panel LFM)

[AZgreentea]

I skootch them off to the side and let them expire. They dont usually send them again. :p

[SmashBang]

i just accept, and continue my solo questing or shopping,,,and ignore them..it is the only way to stop incessant blind invites from same person...


to heck with them...

+1

I do this often on my healer

[Cauthey]

i just accept, and continue my solo questing or shopping,,,and ignore them..it is the only way to stop incessant blind invites from same person...


to heck with them...

^^ THIS. Keep doing whatever it is you're doing. Then, when they ask you where you are, tell them you're Risia coin jumping. When they act all confused, just say, "You invited me, so I clicked Yes. You didn't actually send me a tell and ask me to come along. I just figured you wanted me in your group so that you could monitor my HPs and SPs. You gave me no other information, really."

[Loromir]

I'll have to admit...when I first stepped off the Boat in Korthos, Blind inviting was the only way I got groups. I knew nothing of the social panel. When someone told me "Blind Invites are rude, you should use the Social Panel" I didn't have a clue what they were talking about. When I did finally find the Social Panel, I didn't use it right away, Didn't really understand how it worked.

I was in a group of lvl 1's and 2's early on and we were trying to get a couple more to join us. I told the leader to invite more people. He said he was trying, but he was just standing there doing nothing. I go mad, dropped group and blind invited a full group. Obviously the leader had an LFM up, but I had no concept of that process at the time.

Now I realize the err of My ways almost a year ago. I never blind invite now. I dont get to snippy if I get a blind invite. I usually click no and go about my business. However, some folks don't get the picture and send multiple invites even after I decline. That is when I get mad.

[Missing_Minds]

^^ THIS. Keep doing whatever it is you're doing. Then, when they ask you where you are, tell them you're Risia coin jumping. When they act all confused, just say, "You invited me, so I clicked Yes. You didn't actually send me a tell and ask me to come along. I just figured you wanted me in your group so that you could monitor my HPs and SPs. You gave me no other information, really."

I'm going to have to remember that one.

[bigolbear]

yeh, accept and continue about your bussiness- but do tell them after a while you wont be joining them due to the blind invite.

and if any one else joins make sure to inform them via tells your not going to be playing ball.

I find announcing that to punish the blind inviter i shall be sitting in searing heights while off to make a cuppa.. make diner do the wahsing up, walk the dog.. you get the idea.

The alternative is thanking them for the invite because all those anoying blind invite boxes were geting in your way while trying to solo the quest your doing/ AH browsing or whaterver. be sure to let them know how helpful they are because now you cant be hassled by unwanted popup boxes.

[Kominalito]

I found a new way to be irritated by them. I'd just rolled up a coin farming alt, had gotten off the ship, and was in the process of equipping my starter armor when I get hit with an invite. I click decline and politely /tell this guy that most players find them rude. That's when I noticed my dwarf is standing around in just her underbritches. Opening my inventory revealed my armor had vanished. Nice.

At least it was only starter gear instead of something I'd saved for twinkage.

um, why arent we talking about this. are you saying there is a hack that strips your inventory with a blind invite?

[unionyes]

Blind invites are truly annoying. Best one I ever got was doing a very long fall without my FF on, intending to put it on at the last minute when suddenly this freaking pop up box.......

The only thing worse is a blind GUILD invite.

If I get a blind invite from a level 1,2, or even 3 toon I don't worry too much. I just figure that they haven't been around long enough to be blasted for doing this. If I have the time, I send them a tell politely thanking them and saying that blind invites usually don't get a good response, try the LFM panel.

Once not long after FTP came along I was running a lowbie and got a blind guild invite. I told the person that people usually are somewhat selective about guilds here, and it led to a conversation about the difference between a guild and a party, which was enlightening for one of us.

If they are mid or high level, I either click NO immediately or ignore it, depending on what I am doing at the time.

[AndyD47]

um, why arent we talking about this. are you saying there is a hack that strips your inventory with a blind invite?

I'm pretty sure (s)he was describing a bug of some sort.

[Kominalito]

I'm pretty sure (s)he was describing a bug of some sort.

ok. bug - not panic inducing. hacking - panic inducing.

[WielderofGigantus]

The only thing worse is a blind GUILD invite.
No, blind guild invites are the greatest.

A new alt of mine got sent one and I accepted, then I removed the guild chat from all my chat boxes and whenever someone from that guild sent me tells I would just respond in a foreign language. It was highly amusing. It got me access to the guild vendors and their airship. Free loot from their guild chest.

[der_kluge]

I have, out of boredom on occasion, accepted blind invites with my healer, and done the quests. I don't mind helping people sometimes.

But I agree it is rude. I'd much rather get a /tell first asking me if I'd like to join.

And I definitely agree with the OP that healers have a good memory. There are certain people on Cannith I will not join with because of how they treated me as a healer.

[cbj192]

^^ THIS. Keep doing whatever it is you're doing. Then, when they ask you where you are, tell them you're Risia coin jumping. When they act all confused, just say, "You invited me, so I clicked Yes. You didn't actually send me a tell and ask me to come along. I just figured you wanted me in your group so that you could monitor my HPs and SPs. You gave me no other information, really."

Makes me want to join the party and cast protection from evil instead of cure wounds. That would stop the blind party invites.

[silverraven]

Just to be the devil's advocate here. In any other MMO you have to blind invite to get groups. This is the only game I played that had a easy-group-button. I hate them but I just decline and move on.

[Combat_Wombat]

every mmo I ever played allowed you to talk to other players also making blind party invites rude in them as well

[picaisfun]

Blind Invite (Incorrect):
/invite Brian14

non-blind Invite (correct)

/t Brian14 Hey man, thinking of running though WW on hard, wanna come?

if (Brian14=Yes, /invite Brian14, post in social panel LFM)

I hate both. Maybe I'm just antisocial.

[TheMidnightMage]

The way to make them go away and never come back find the most annoying song that you can and then play it loudly on the PC and open the mic channel turn your speakers off (If you have it set to send from the PC and not speakers) then you hear nothing and they hear all the junk. HeHeHe

[Llewndyn]

But I haven't gotten any blind invites in a WHILE. When I used to get them I would join and pike until they kicked me, in which case we both win; they get the honor of having Llewndyn in their party and all of the groupies that comes with, I get free xp while taking the Browns to the Superbowl, usually with the mic placed expertly nearby. Great on corned beef and cabbage night!

I get tells ALL the time, but I tend to think of those as people realizing the uberness of my toons and only wishing to bask in Llewndyn's Patented Yellow Healing Secretions, and I bestow those with great consistency.

Other names for the healing aura I have used:

10. Llewndyn's Yellow healing Milk
9. Llew's Special crotch elixir
8. Pee
7. Llewndyn's Magical Golden Shower
6. Love Mist
5. HP Man-Spray
4. Llewndyn's Incap Stabilizer
3. Llewndyn's Regenerating Golden Chowder
2. Bringing the Light (in my pants)
1. Llewndyn's Snuggle Aura

You're welcome.

[TheMidnightMage]

Last week I was sitting around not doing much just right in the middle of a fragging boss fight using clickies jumping around and poof I can't see that daymn boss any more!! Thank You blind invite. So I accepted the invite HeHeHe Killed the darn boss and then ran Sands for the next 2 hours with the idiot begging me to drop. I politely sent him a tell letting him know how pleased I was with his invite. He told me a few choice words so I set him to ignore and continued questing. And no more random invites (While he was stuck as a party member.) LOL

[Tom318]

I found a new way to be irritated by them. I'd just rolled up a coin farming alt, had gotten off the ship, and was in the process of equipping my starter armor when I get hit with an invite. I click decline and politely /tell this guy that most players find them rude. That's when I noticed my dwarf is standing around in just her underbritches. Opening my inventory revealed my armor had vanished. Nice.

At least it was only starter gear instead of something I'd saved for twinkage.

Yea what is it with stuff that disappear for no reason? :P

[Musouka]

I must be running a stroke of luck. I have my WF FvS up to level 7 now, and yet to have received a blind tell or invite... maybe it's because most WF FvS are melee specced.

[FrancisP.Fancypants]

I just hit the 'no' button and forget about it, usually because I have the good fortune of getting blind invites to parties and guilds when I'm in a dungeon, right in the middle of a fight.

Someday I might hit 'yes', just so they can hear me vent my frustration at THAT THING THAT POPPED UP AND IS BLOCKING MY VIEW.

[arch0njw]

My use of squelching knows few bounds. Rude people. Idiots. Blind inviters. Foul-mouthed brats. People who have to type in all caps. Failure to understand the concept of party chat.

In the vein of "He loved the world except for all the people" (Men at Work, Cargo, Dr. Heckyl & Mr. Jive), "He loved the [game] except for all the [players]."

It encourages me to play only with people I know (personally). LotRO, on the other hand, seems to be totally awesome where partying is concerned. I think the fact that you can wander by someone working on something, or several of you can end up in the same place with the same goals, helps. On the other hand, the private dungeon instances in DDO are very nice when you don't want some gnat buzzing around constantly asking to be added to your group.

Nothing is perfect. That's why there's squelch.

[katana_one]

Since no one has mentioned it in this thread, I thought I would pop in and mention that there are a couple of options in the UI that can help address blind invites. They all have their pros and cons, so choose to fit your situation and preferences.

1) Run Anonymous. Open the Social Panel and click the little box that says "anonymous." You will no longer show up in the Who list, and people recruiting via the Who list will no longer see you. Down side? When you apply to an LFM, I believe you will show as "anonymous" to the party leader, who might decline you based solely upon that. This won't stop them from seeing you run past them in the marketplace, however.

2) Disable Party Invites (and Guild Invites). Open the UI settings and toggle Party Invites off. You will now auto-decline when someone sends you an invite. You will still get a *ding* and a notice in your chat window, so you won't miss any invites from people you know. This does not prevent you from sending your own invite, and it does not prevent you from forming/joining groups via the LFM panel. I might suggest turning off invites at lower levels, and turning them back on at higher levels (when people should know better). Downside - you will auto-decline invites that you might actually want (forcing you to toggle the invites back on and ask to be invited again).

3) Squelch. Definitely solves the problem. (Personally, I think it's a bit of an overreaction to a blind invite - some people just don't know better and didn't really mean any harm.) Downside - your squelch list has a limit, and each squelch only stops one character from sending you an invite.

4) Grief. Accept the request and ignore. Walk away. Pike. Play obnoxious music. Pretend you speak a foreign language. Amusing and satisfying for sure, but remember that the other people in party might not deserve this.

Your mileage may vary.

[Kmnh]

The necromancers are on a roll :P

[Musouka]

The necromancers are on a roll :P

******! I totally missed it.

[Daggertooth]

Just a reminder.... there is nothing wrong with inviting people to your group. The game was meant to be a social game, not a substitute lesson in etiquette for socially deficient people.

If you don't want to be bothered by people go into options and uncheck 'accept party invites'.... Please don't come onto the forums and start spouting off about what you consider to be game etiquette.

There is a list of people playing the game and a button to invite them for a reason. If this wasn't how the game was meant to be played there would only be 'tell' button.. and then after you've recieved a response, the invite button would appear.

A few loudmouthed forumites does not equate to the majority of people playing the game. Play the game and let others play the game. If you don't want an invite window interupting your 'opus magnus *** laude' solo encore with the raid boss, then do everyone a big favor and either disallow group invites or go anonomous. Don't come on here and start spreading the gospel about what is and what is not considered rude.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell the difference between someone who sends one invite and someone who is repeatedly sending invites after you've declined the first time.

There is a list of characters who are online grouped by classes for a reason. So people can make groups and enjoy the game. Once again it doesn't take a rocket scientist to accept an invite, find out what the group is doing and then make a decision to either stay or go.

Please, if you are feeling the need for etiquette, go have a tea party. Stop spreading that garbage around a game that I am trying to enjoy.

[Daggertooth]

The blind invite thing is just another shabby attempt from uptight people trying to establish control over the game. Cant you just play the game? Every year you get the same tired people... starting out as complete noobs... (and I mean COMPLETE noobs), and then a year later they end up in the 'top end' guilds. And then its only a matter of time before they shamble onto the forums and start yammering on about this and that.

People play the game. They are not interested in learning or abiding by what you consider to be rude. Yeah we get it, your no longer a (COMPLETE) noob and now your in a guild so you dont' want to be bothered.... Good .. do everyone a favor and either disappear into your private channel or uncheck accept group invites. Don't come on here and start trying to establish protocal for an online video game.

People are here to relax and enjoy a game with other people around the world who have a similar taste in games. They see other characters in the game and in the list and they want to form groups and go questing. Trust me I've played this game six years. You WOULD NOT BELIEVE... how many times I've seen the same thing over and over.. Complete and total noobs.. I mean the REALLY annoying kind... and then a year later without exception they have their 'wings' and they are in top guilds spouting off on the forums about how they don't want to be bothered... Its just tiresome already.

[Raoull]

There is a list of people playing the game and a button to invite them for a reason. If this wasn't how the game was meant to be played there would only be 'tell' button.. and then after you've recieved a response, the invite button would appear.


Why would anyone accept a blind invite? I get blind tells all the time, and if I'm not mid combat I'll bother to reply to them that I can't make it (I've accepted one or two, but its really rare to get one when I'm not already doing something), but those tells include what they are doing.

"Hey, we're looking for healer for ToD, wanna join?"

Is a totally reasonable thing that I'd at least consider. (And probably the most common one I see, but I've been in Amrath frequently lately.)

"Join XXXX's group"

Is not. There simply is no information there that would make me want to accept it. Who you are is not really germaine to the decision, unless I actually know you... but its the only info you get with a blind invite. With a tell, you can have some concept what you're getting into.

I have no idea why anyone would accept a blind invite due to the lack of info. The pop up window just adds to the aggravation factor. Fortunately, while blind tells are reasonably common for me, it has been a while since I've gotten a blind invite.

[der_kluge]

I must be running a stroke of luck. I have my WF FvS up to level 7 now, and yet to have received a blind tell or invite... maybe it's because most WF FvS are melee specced.

Nah, it's because you're level 7.

And I've seen fewer blind invites overall, which is a good thing.

I still do get a fair amount of /tells from people, though.

[Schmoe]

Just a reminder.... there is nothing wrong with inviting people to your group. The game was meant to be a social game, not a substitute lesson in etiquette for socially deficient people.

If you don't want to be bothered by people go into options and uncheck 'accept party invites'.... Please don't come onto the forums and start spouting off about what you consider to be game etiquette.

Really? So the only way to prevent being spammed party invites from people I don't know, is to prevent party invites from all people, including my friends? Instead of encouraging courtesy, we should be encouraging isolation? That's like throwing the baby out with the bath water.


Please, if you are feeling the need for etiquette, go have a tea party. Stop spreading that garbage around a game that I am trying to enjoy.

-1

Please keep your ignorant trolls out of my forum experience. TYVM.

[countfitz]

What exactly is "blind invite"? And what would be "non-blind invite"?

There are a few "non-blind" invites that are acceptable. If you have put up LFG (the opposite of LFM) and someone invites you, well you were looking for a group and a group found you. If you /t someone on an LFM that has a "full" group because of a hireling and they need to dismiss it then invite you, that is a non-blind invite. If you are reforming a group, even a failed one that went poorly and you won't rejoin it, but never said that, or maybe even did, that is okay too. If you are scheduled for a guild raid, that is acceptable. Finally, if you are invited by a guildy and you are in a close knit or small guild, that is reasonable if not acceptable.

[Falco_Easts]

Since no one has mentioned it in this thread, I thought I would pop in and mention that there are a couple of options in the UI that can help address blind invites. They all have their pros and cons, so choose to fit your situation and preferences.

Unfortunately most of these cure the symptoms, not the disease.

[artandor]

remember getting blind invites from time to time, what i loved doing (if i was bored and didnt had anything to do)
is actually to join them, speak russian/norwegian (depends), throw some spawn screens/waterbreathing
and actually heal them from time to time.... right before a boss fight: i go in, die and observe the wipe xDDD
funniest wipe was against the blue-fire guy in the inferno of the damned.. u kno the necro 4 thing?
it was like looking at a stand up show, he embarasses fighters/wizards and what ever was there, and makes audience (me) laugh

does being like that makes me evil and mean cleric? ._.
if yes: WOOHOOO!