HElf Dilettante, and clerical scrolls

[Palorin]

Now, I have seen a few posts with people saying that Helf's with the Dilettante: Cleric racial feat don't need to make UMD checks and can cast Harm/Heal scrolls without a roll. But, if you read the ability, this isn't true. They only count as a level 1 cleric, which makes them 7 levels short from casting the spell without a check, giving a HElf wizard casting harm only a 35% chance to use the scroll. This seems EXTREMELY useless, even with lower level heal spells. Why blow money and precious seconds trying to cast a scroll that only has a 65% chance of working? Doesn't using pots make more sense?

Or am I missing something entirely here?

I ask because I, too, am interested in doing a Human or HElf necromancer, and am just looking at all the options.

[darktau]

Once the next update goes live with the aditional HElf dilettante enchancement it will be possible to count as a lvl 10 char of that class. Thus a char with the full enhancement will have I believe 95% chance to cast heal/harm scrolls.

[Palorin]

Now that is sexy... so a half-elf might be just the thing...

[diamabel]

Now, I have seen a few posts with people saying that Helf's with the Dilettante: Cleric racial feat don't need to make UMD checks and can cast Harm/Heal scrolls without a roll. But, if you read the ability, this isn't true. They only count as a level 1 cleric, which makes them 7 levels short from casting the spell without a check, giving a HElf wizard casting harm only a 35% chance to use the scroll. This seems EXTREMELY useless, even with lower level heal spells. Why blow money and precious seconds trying to cast a scroll that only has a 65% chance of working? Doesn't using pots make more sense?

Or am I missing something entirely here?

I ask because I, too, am interested in doing a Human or HElf necromancer, and am just looking at all the options.


As you said, the dilletante feat will mark you as a level 1 cleric and thus Level 1 cleric spells scrolls can be used without failure. I wouldn't rcommend using high level cleric scrolls as that's rather a waste of money. On the other side you have access to all cleric wands and you have to just meet the character level restriction to use these wands.

[bashemgud]

From the patch notes:

Cleric:
Improved Cleric Dilettante I
Prereqs: Level 5, Half-Elf Cleric Dilettante, 15 AP Spent
Cost: 1 AP
Benefit: Increases your caster level in your dilettante class by 2, so you are now treated as a third level cleric instead of first level.
Improved Cleric Dilettante II
Prereqs: Level 10, Half-Elf Cleric Dilettante, Improved Cleric Dilettante I, 34 AP Spent
Cost: 2 AP
Benefit: Increases your caster level in your dilettante class by 3, so you are now treated as a sixth level cleric instead of third level.
Improved Cleric Dilettante III
Prereqs: Level 15, Half-Elf Cleric Dilettante, Improved Cleric Dilettante II, 53 AP Spent
Cost: 3 AP
Benefit: Increases your caster level in your dilettante class by 4, so you are now treated as a tenth level cleric instead of sixth level.
Half-Elf Cleric Wisdom I
Prereqs: Level 9, Half-Elf Cleric Dilettante, 30 AP Spent
Cost: 2 AP
Benefit: Grants a +1 increase to your Wisdom score. This counts as a class based ability score enhancement.