Would you buy a scroll/seal/shard from the Store?

[LightBear]

As the title says and what do you think it would be worth?

[Krag]

I think selling rare and powerful loot for cash is the most sure way to make Korean MMORPG out of DDO.

[flynnjsw]

No, it is the same thing as selling Raid/Named loot in the Store.

NO NO NO

/not signed

[Samiusbot]

Some one had a really great idea. letting people use some number of Epic tokens as a wild card slot.

So if your missing 1 part of the 4 items to make an item epic you there is still away with out having to go to the store.

[rimble]

Yeah, that might make me stop playing. That's crossing a line I don't want to see crossed.

Just make the means of acquiring them in-game more fun/lucrative/whatever.

[Slugnutty]

No to crafting items from the store but YES to a raid timer rest tokens -

[Lorien_the_First_One]

So when do large devil scales and red devil scales go on sale in the store anyway?

[stoolcannon]

If it was there, sure, but I wouldn't want to see that happen. You'd immediately start to see uber decked out characters run by people that didn't yet even know how to utilize them.

I personally think the grind is too steep but at the same time part of the benefit of the grind is learning how to play your character to the most effect.

I'm torn on large shroud ingredients. Part of me wants to say yes I'd like them there but the same thing that prevents me from saying I'd like to see epic ingredients keeps me from saying yes.

I know I wouldn't abuse it and spend 40 bucks to build an entire greensteel from scratch, but I'd certainly take advantage of it if I was say 1 large scale short and just wanted to get my crafting done without a hassle.

Perhaps putting ingredients in the store with a cap on how many you could buy in a month would be a good solution. If you could only buy say 2 large ingredients in a month it would provide a nice boon without completely upsetting game balance.

At the end of the day I think it's best to earn your gear through gameplay.

[grodon9999]

I'm not going to deny it, I absolutely would buy a wayward shard/seal/scroll from the DDO store if it was available. I think anyone who says otherwise is either poor or lying :)

That said, no friggin way should this be allowed. Give us some in-game mechanism that will allow us to purchase this stuff with Epic/raid tokens. The most annoying part of epics is that when you finish a run and you don't get any loot, you are no closer to completing an item than you were before you started the run.

[stoolcannon]

I'm not going to deny it, I absolutely would buy a wayward shard/seal/scroll from the DDO store if it was available. I think anyone who says otherwise is either poor or lying :)

That said, no friggin way should this be allowed. Give us some in-game mechanism that will allow us to purchase this stuff with Epic/raid tokens. The most annoying part of epics is that when you finish a run and you don't get any loot, you are no closer to completing an item than you were before you started the run.

This

[Memnir]

Should never ever happen.

[KingOfCheese]

Should it happen: Absolutely no.

If it did happen, would I buy stuff: Absolutely yes.

[sirgog]

No.

If I wanted to play a pay-to-win game, I'd play some crappy Zygna game.

[D-molisher]

No absolutely not, then i would have nothing to do when done tr-Ã*ng my Bruized lee ( monk ).
So nope & i hope some like that never comes in ddo-store.


No.

If I wanted to play a pay-to-win game, I'd play some crappy Zygna game.

I bet you mean some games like Silkroad.

[Kourier]

No No No No No No

[Rasczak]

That would be like buying a job at the nearest Walmart o.O


Nononononono. Raid/Epic gear is meant to be sought after, not bought because it's "to hard"

[DrenglisEU]

No, and definetly /Not Signed... can already get too much stuff from the store

[frznvimes]

Boo! Hiss! Growl! Yark!

/not signed

[Delolith]

I'm not going to deny it, I absolutely would buy a wayward shard/seal/scroll from the DDO store if it was available. I think anyone who says otherwise is either poor or lying :)

That said, no friggin way should this be allowed. Give us some in-game mechanism that will allow us to purchase this stuff with Epic/raid tokens. The most annoying part of epics is that when you finish a run and you don't get any loot, you are no closer to completing an item than you were before you started the run.

Imo you pretty much nailed it.

However, instead of putting it in the store they should rethink of some "pieces" of those epic crafts that are just plainly ridiculous to get. Like Shards for Wilderness area Sand epic items.

What Turbine should do is adjust those drop rates.

Epic items are not the stuff you find on every person's hands. However, with the ridiculous drop rate some of the seals/shards have, it is more likely to find it in the hands of a random player (either old or new player) that was lucky enough to stumble upon the rare ingredient rather than the really old veteran playing this game for years and doesn't have such item yet due to luck.

[IAmDesolator3]

I'm very much against that particular idea but I hate the current system too. I'd say you should get 10x the original drop chance for seals/shards that are related to an item you currently have in your inventory. Like if you have golden greaves in your inventory, it will first roll yes or no on seal/shard at all. Then if yes, roll to see what it is you're getting and if it isn't something you currently own, re-roll to determine the item 9 more times and as soon as one of those rolls results in an item you're carrying, switch out the shard/seal for that one. If it never matches, leave the original roll's resulting item in the chest. And really, they should only implement this in the sands because it would make the others way too easy.

P.S. Silkroad sucks! lol. I played, got ungodly rich, and during the huge database hack, my account was like #1 that was stolen and I lost it and the 270 mil on it. Btw I was the original author of the remote bank viewer app that they never banned me for lol.

[kernal42]

I'm very much against that particular idea but I hate the current system too. I'd say you should get 10x the original drop chance for seals/shards that are related to an item you currently have in your inventory. Like if you have golden greaves in your inventory, it will first roll yes or no on seal/shard at all. Then if yes, roll to see what it is you're getting and if it isn't something you currently own, re-roll to determine the item 9 more times and as soon as one of those rolls results in an item you're carrying, switch out the shard/seal for that one. If it never matches, leave the original roll's resulting item in the chest. And really, they should only implement this in the sands because it would make the others way too easy.

That's a terrible idea. I don't want to have to carry around all the junk base items of loot I want to epicifalize.

-Kernal

[Ew_vastano]

personaly i would like to see a machanic where if you dont get a shard/ seal you get say a shard token. 8 shard tokens can be exchanged at the epic trader for wichever shard you are after from the particular raid that the token dropped in.
Ie:- run evon 6, 8 times chances of getting that elusive belt shard are still slimmer then a blue rizla.
But if you collected a token on every evon 6 run if you havnt got that belt shard by then you can go to the epic trader and buy one.

[AMDarkwolf]

Why not: 1 shard from X pack + 1 Raid token + 1 dungeon token = 1 random shard from X pack.

Same for seals.


It would 'eat' some of the tokens laying around, and also rid us of our bags full of seals and shards we would never use.

(Similar i guess to how the new DT crafting mechanism works, don't get what you want, bust it down into random items to try again, maybe if u WANT to sell something in the ddo store, sell 'catalysts' that when combined with the above, do what I suggested.)

[phillymiket]

Not good.

It's best that I farm Epics and learn the game completely.

But yes I probably would buy the few things I farm almost everyday and just can't seem to get.
Turbine, please save my wallet from my own foolishness by not doing this.

Having a 20th completion end reward for Epics where, not all, but some shards and seals are available would be nice.
Heck, how about an Epic end reward that wasn't a +2 leather armor. :D

/not signed

[Lorien_the_First_One]

I'd say you should get 10x the original drop chance for seals/shards that are related to an item you currently have in your inventory.

Dumb idea. A lot of the pre-epic stuff is 1) unbound, 2) not useful at L20.

There is no reason to have to carry it all on you to have a chance at loot dropping. All that would do would be to make epics more annoying.

[mroks28]

I personally think the grind for some of the epic items is too ridiculous so maybe only have one part of the epic item in the ddo store like the shard or seal or at least make another one unbound the scroll is unbound yes but its still too much grind to form one of the easier epic items so maybe make another one unbound or sell them in the ddo store and no not both of them just the shard or seal imho, but do not make it so u do not have to grind at all cause that takes the fun out of the game and it is just a waste.

[smallstones]

Why Don't we just put everything that is in the game in the store, so those who don't want to play it can just buy it, get bored and leave... While we are at it add the 6th tr character tokens, (so a new player can buy a 6th life tr toon their first day of play) and guild level 100 tokens....

Seems like we are heading that way already, lets just get it over with... So people who hate the though can quit, Those who want to buy it all can, then get bored and quit, and be done with this...

We are already past the point of no return on that slippery slope...

enough with the store already... play the game or don't.

[djl]

They shouldn't sell them, but they should make Epics function similarly to raids-- after 20 runs, you get a modified end list from that quest that includes an assortment of seals or shards. This change would also apply to raids, except it would only be a selection of up to five shards and they would be treated as additional slots in the rewards window instead of taking up slots of other gear.

[zex95966]

Hell no, I would never.

...but my dad buys them like water.

[mroks28]

They shouldn't sell them, but they should make Epics function similarly to raids-- after 20 runs, you get a modified end list from that quest that includes an assortment of seals or shards. This change would also apply to raids, except it would only be a selection of up to five shards and they would be treated as additional slots in the rewards window instead of taking up slots of other gear.

this would probably be the best idea because after 80+ runs of an epic raid and still not being able to complete an item is a little hectic so have epic completions where u can get seals/shards/scrolls to epic the item that are only obtained after 20 epic runs and also have norm-elite 20 completions as usual so this will make the game a lot more fun and lower the boring grind and grind that we suffer from now. no i dont have a problem with how it is now its just boring doing the same thing over and over how about we get this done asap and move on to the next thing.

[slimkj]

As the title says and what do you think it would be worth?
Honest answer?

Initially: No.
After six months of farming the same shard: Hesitantly considering it but still no.
One drunken night after the pub with credit card in hand: Oops.
Morning after: Buyer's remorse.

That's probably what would end up happening to me. :)

[voodoogroves]

I'm not going to deny it, I absolutely would buy a wayward shard/seal/scroll from the DDO store if it was available. I think anyone who says otherwise is either poor or lying :)

That said, no friggin way should this be allowed. Give us some in-game mechanism that will allow us to purchase this stuff with Epic/raid tokens. The most annoying part of epics is that when you finish a run and you don't get any loot, you are no closer to completing an item than you were before you started the run.

Agree 100%.

I really don't think they should do it.

If it was there for a decent price, I'd totally buy one. Some. Whatever. Desert ones mostly, because my luck is horrid and explorer loot is really diluted in the tables.

[porq]

I'm not going to deny it, I absolutely would buy a wayward shard/seal/scroll from the DDO store if it was available. I think anyone who says otherwise is either poor or lying :)

That said, no friggin way should this be allowed. Give us some in-game mechanism that will allow us to purchase this stuff with Epic/raid tokens. The most annoying part of epics is that when you finish a run and you don't get any loot, you are no closer to completing an item than you were before you started the run.
Well said.

You summed up my thoughts on this pretty well. I would buy the odd epic component if it was made available, but selling raid loot in the store is not a good idea.

[Dandonk]

Please no. Nononono.

That said, I'm sure it'll be here soon enough :(

[BadBuy]

Why Don't we just put everything that is in the game in the store, so those who don't want to play it can just buy it, get bored and leave... While we are at it add the 6th tr character tokens, (so a new player can buy a 6th life tr toon their first day of play) and guild level 100 tokens....

Seems like we are heading that way already, lets just get it over with... So people who hate the though can quit, Those who want to buy it all can, then get bored and quit, and be done with this...

We are already past the point of no return on that slippery slope...

enough with the store already... play the game or don't.

^ This. Definitely /not signed

I agree that there is a huge grind related with getting certain seals or shards and some seal/shard trade in system could be a solution, then people could use all those piles of seals and shards that they will never need. On the other hand then more people would have the Epic Ring of Spell Storing than the Bauble which imho is not right.

Maybe the best solution for this is still the straight forward one - slightly increasing the droprates, especially in such quests as ADQ1.

[umeannothing]

Necro

[Dandonk]

Necro

Meh, the pale masters got me :(

[Vellrad]

I bet you mean some games like Silkroad.

???

But everyone knows, silkroad is b2w!
(bot to win)

[porq]

Necro
Eh youre right, and I didnt even notice...

But the topic is more relevant than it was before, easy mistake.