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Allerdyne
12-09-2010, 02:55 AM
I noticed that, according to its description, the level 1 cleric spell "night shield" is supposed to give a bonus to my saves; however, this doesn't appear on my character sheet when I cast the spell like, say, the bonus to saves that I get from using something like human versatility does. Is this how it's supposed to work? Thanks!

Dandonk
12-09-2010, 02:58 AM
The bonus to saves from the Night Shield spell is typed Resistance, which many other items also give. Same type bonuses do not stack*. So perhaps you're wearing another item that gives a Resistance bonus to saves?

*: There are a few exceptions to this rule, but at high level.

Dunklerlindwurm
12-09-2010, 03:00 AM
This might be because you already have an item equiped that gives an resistance bonus to saves.

For example if you have a cloak of resistance +2 all your saves have an resistance bonus of +2.

If your nightshield gives +1 or +2 you wont notice any difference because it doesnt stack with your cloak.

If your nightshield gives +3 your cloak would be obsolete and so on...

There are stackable bonuses in the game but they have different names for example competence bonus to saves.

JollySwagMan
12-09-2010, 03:02 AM
Is your character wearing an item that provides a Resistance bonus to saves? Nightshield provides the same type of bonus that wearing a +Resistance item would, so if the item bonus is the same or higher you won't see any effect on your character sheet.

Nightshield also appears to cap out at +3 bonus.

There are some other Divine spells that provide bonuses to saves and are described as Resistance bonuses, but actually are not: Protection from Evil, and Holy Aura. Holy Aura will show up on your character sheet, however Protection from Evil's +2 to bonus to saves against spells cast by Evil aligned enemies can only be observed in the Combat Log.

Allerdyne
12-09-2010, 05:06 PM
ah-ha. Yeah, I already have bonuses to my resistance from items. Interesting, I knew bonuses from items didn't stack, but I wasn't sure about bonuses from spells. Now I know. And knowing is half the battle. GI Joooeeee!!!

Vissarion
12-09-2010, 05:10 PM
ah-ha. Yeah, I already have bonuses to my resistance from items. Interesting, I knew bonuses from items didn't stack, but I wasn't sure about bonuses from spells. Now I know. And knowing is half the battle. GI Joooeeee!!!

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