Ripping my hair out

[SavvyGabby]

Okay, I like the game. I test drove it with a DDO version set up of a pally for a while before I decided to look for a rock solid build. I tried a battle cleric for solo build but the debates on the build driving me nuts. I have a tempest trap monkey thats doing well on duo.

I also was thinking of a pally tank, but people say its considered dead weight, which I don't want.

The cleric, Well I deleted her. Cause I am so confused on whats good whats not this is this isn't blah blah... I am starting to get a headache from reading debates, its not helping me figure out what way to go. I like the game but now from so many different things I don't know what to do what to choose or what to play.

Unfortunately I am working with 28pts I am stuck with it till I get 32pt and drow weather I like it or not. What should I do. I am so confused I just cant make up my mind now. My reason for a 28pt build is because Build is better then DDO's pre-set up junk.

I like the pally I started with but there hard to build with out 32pts or drow. Okay well What is possibly good to get the 32pts ,that'll survive?????
I liked the battle cleric but I don't know what build is good or not that wont be a total mess at the end.

Apparently nothing is that decent with out the 32pt build but I just need something that is solid that fights tough, heals and buffs, but that wont be dead weight to get me my points and drow but I don't know what way to go on a 28pt build its driving me nuts .

I went with battle cleric cause I like how it played so far. But I deleted her cause I'm to confused. I am going to make another one, again don't know what to go with.

Is there any success stories with a build? I like builds that people that have actually played there selves and were successful with it.

I am a girl trying to make a char to get my stuff unlocked.

I am sorry if I sound mean up there don't mean too lol Just blowing off steam cause my head was spinning and bout ready to burst.

[chrisgina39]

well its not battle clerics people hate its clerics that dont heal
as 4 what build to take whatever u like playing

a builds only as good as its fun to play

[Tyrande]

Its your game. Play it any way that you think it is fun.

Just make sure you don't hurt other people's fun. Then you're okay.

Don't worry about your builds or what other people say.

Experiment and figure it out for yourselves the best combination. Its like experimenting with building your own computer.

Three things to remember for melee characters, if that's what you are looking for:

1) Make sure you have heavy fortification.

2) Make sure CON is not a dump stat and crank up HP as much as possible.

3) Find the correct weapons that is best for the monsters that you are fighting.

Now's its just 3 easy baby steps...

[biggin]

Here's the problem as I see it: you're trying to do too much. Let's take for example a BC. You need STR, WIS, CON, maybe some DEX if your going TWF, maybe some CHA for radiant servant, etc. You may want to try focusing your efforts on something you can do. Maybe an OCC Cleric? Ranger for a little healing and buffs? Maybe just try a straight max STR/CON FTR or Barb. The game will be frustrating because without good gear and stats pallies and BC's are tough to pull off. Heck, BC's are one of the toughest things in DDO to play well, and you picked it as a first toon.

My advice would be to pick something and focus on it, only to see what you really will like to play. SOmetimes what we think we like doing and what actually translates to the game are 2 different things. I played only clerics for 3 years. I built just about every kind of cleric you could think of. Then a guildie was looking for Heavy Picks, so I started collecting them for him. He decided not to roll the toon up, so I decided why not give a Barb a try? Turns out I love playing a melee toon. If you had asked me before I capped one I would have told you it looked like the most boring toon to play.

Also you may want to try a THF bard. It can cast some, melee some, great buffs, and at the end of it all you have a plat machine. Bards are always welcome additions to any party that know anything about DDO, and they can be so versatile that you can play it any way you want to. As long as you sing a few songs at the beginning of the quest, the rest of the quest time is up to you. :)

[Xenus_Paradox]

Half-Elf 17 Cleric/2 Monk/1 Rogue with Paladin for Dilettante feat is a great solo build. Gets you, 9th-level spells, trap skills, evasion, Wisdom to AC, and (once update 8 goes live) up to 5 points of Charisma to saves, plus 1d6 sneak attack, and 2 martial arts feats (I suggest Toughness and Weapon Finesse).

[Tanka]

Half-Elf 17 Cleric/2 Monk/1 Rogue with Paladin for Dilettante feat is a great solo build. Gets you, 9th-level spells, trap skills, evasion, Wisdom to AC, and (once update 8 goes live) up to 5 points of Charisma to saves, plus Leap of Faith, 1d6 sneak attack, and 2 martial arts feats (I suggest Toughness and Weapon Finesse).
You suggested Cleric, not FvS. He won't get Leap of Faith.

[Xenus_Paradox]

You suggested Cleric, not FvS. He won't get Leap of Faith.

Originally wrote FvS, then changed it before posting.

[SavvyGabby]

Here's the problem as I see it: you're trying to do too much. Let's take for example a BC. You need STR, WIS, CON, maybe some DEX if your going TWF, maybe some CHA for radiant servant, etc. You may want to try focusing your efforts on something you can do. Maybe an OCC Cleric? Ranger for a little healing and buffs? Maybe just try a straight max STR/CON FTR or Barb. The game will be frustrating because without good gear and stats pallies and BC's are tough to pull off. Heck, BC's are one of the toughest things in DDO to play well, and you picked it as a first toon.

My advice would be to pick something and focus on it, only to see what you really will like to play. SOmetimes what we think we like doing and what actually translates to the game are 2 different things. I played only clerics for 3 years. I built just about every kind of cleric you could think of. Then a guildie was looking for Heavy Picks, so I started collecting them for him. He decided not to roll the toon up, so I decided why not give a Barb a try? Turns out I love playing a melee toon. If you had asked me before I capped one I would have told you it looked like the most boring toon to play.

Also you may want to try a THF bard. It can cast some, melee some, great buffs, and at the end of it all you have a plat machine. Bards are always welcome additions to any party that know anything about DDO, and they can be so versatile that you can play it any way you want to. As long as you sing a few songs at the beginning of the quest, the rest of the quest time is up to you. :)



oooh lol yea I guess I am trying to get to much in one char. I wanna wait to make the pally till I get 32pt and drow,and the cleric I will wait on too. I have a tempest thats rouge/ranger, that I duo with already. Well I guess I'll do something with fighter, cause It don't have to heal and buff I just want it to get me my stuff unlocked. I can use potions if I cant heal my self. I saw this blitz build and am wondering if it'll get me my stuff unlocked or not
This the blitz I seen


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.7.2
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Level 20 Chaotic Good Elf Male
(12 Fighter \ 6 Barbarian \ 2 Rogue)
Hit Points: 370
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 9
Will: 5

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 16 23
Dexterity 10 10
Constitution 14 14
Intelligence 14 14
Wisdom 8 8
Charisma 10 10

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 2 10
Bluff 0 2
Concentration 2 4
Diplomacy 0 2
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 0 0
Heal -1 -1
Hide 0 0
Intimidate 4 25
Jump 7 20
Listen -1 24
Move Silently 0 0
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 2 2
Search 2 4
Spot -1 1
Swim 3 6
Tumble 1 1
Use Magic Device 1 23

Level 1 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I


Level 2 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 3 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Fighter Flanking Mastery I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I


Level 5 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 6 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Stunning Blow
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Attack I
Enhancement: Kensei Falchion Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I


Level 7 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+0.5)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 9 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage II


Level 10 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Quick Draw
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Attack II


Level 11 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+0.5)
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) I
Enhancement: Fighter Falchion Specialization I


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Listen (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II


Level 13 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Listen (+4)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV


Level 14 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Listen (+4)
Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I


Level 15 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Listen (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Improved Damage Reduction I
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I


Level 16 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Listen (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I


Level 17 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Listen (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)


Level 18 (Barbarian)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Listen (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker I


Level 19 (Rogue)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+10)
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I


Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Skill: Listen (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+6)

RESET ENHANCEMENTS

Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Barbarian Improved Damage Reduction I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker I
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Kensei Falchion Mastery I
Enhancement: Kensei Falchion Mastery II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II
Enhancement: Fighter Falchion Specialization I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength III
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II




Is it solid??

[SavvyGabby]

LOL Sorry just letting off steam too cause my head was spinning and bout ready to burst.

[SavvyGabby]

You suggested Cleric, not FvS. He won't get Leap of Faith.

xD She not he I am a she

[Tanka]

xD She not he I am a she
My apologies. I've never gotten in the habit of using gender neutral pronouns.

[SavvyGabby]

My apologies. I've never gotten in the habit of using gender neutral pronouns.

lol its okay :P Idk how to get an avatar in the forum lol or I'd make it clear that way.

[SavvyGabby]

well its not battle clerics people hate its clerics that dont heal
as 4 what build to take whatever u like playing

a builds only as good as its fun to play

I was having fun on my cleric. I asked a question in a post though to the build I was using and it didn't get answered well cause people debating over this and that which made me kinda fed up with my cleric and i think i'll wait on it till i get the 32pts cause I am fed up with confusing arguing over whats good and who thinks whats no good on what someone suggested, when I ask a question on it in its build lol.

[biggin]

lol its okay :P Idk how to get an avatar in the forum lol or I'd make it clear that way.

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[biggin]

I was having fun on my cleric. I asked a question in a post though to the build I was using and it didn't get answered well cause people debating over this and that which made me kinda fed up with my cleric and i think i'll wait on it till i get the 32pts cause I am fed up with confusing arguing over whats good and who thinks whats no good on what someone suggested, when I ask a question on it in its build lol.

The important thing to remember when asking build questions on here is that most of it (unless it's out and out wrong) is that personal preference comes a lot into play. You have to learn your own playstyle before most of it will either make a ton of sense or be dismissed right away. And it's not that the people who answer are either right or wrong, it just makes it more right or wrong for the way you play.

[SavvyGabby]

The important thing to remember when asking build questions on here is that most of it (unless it's out and out wrong) is that personal preference comes a lot into play. You have to learn your own playstyle before most of it will either make a ton of sense or be dismissed right away. And it's not that the people who answer are either right or wrong, it just makes it more right or wrong for the way you play.

I see. I know. I was getting confused over debated though I do understand people are right for there own reasons and just giving there opinion, but it just got too confusing.

[SavvyGabby]

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ahhhh thank you... I got it now :D

[SavvyGabby]

The important thing to remember when asking build questions on here is that most of it (unless it's out and out wrong) is that personal preference comes a lot into play. You have to learn your own playstyle before most of it will either make a ton of sense or be dismissed right away. And it's not that the people who answer are either right or wrong, it just makes it more right or wrong for the way you play.

The question I asked was if it was ok to cross 2 cleric builds into 1. I mean like 2 battle cleric builds. Cause one told me where to put my skill points in a easy manner then the other. I didn't know where to put my starting skills in. Then someones like oh u should try the game first before u build, which I did lol before I even asked for a build and people don't like clerics cause they wont heal others. Well I will heal others but I liked my battle cleric I wasn't planing on being stingy with healing if your gonna help me fight then of course I'd return the favor and heal them. Then the person who made the build told me I didn't mess up to much but it was too late cause I got mad and deleted it lol.

I enjoy running around and plowing lol monsters pretty much. With the ability to heal my self or others. Even if it isn't a big heal. But if I go with something like fighter I don't mind having to use Pots or nanny bots if I need them. I just like characters that are like a killing machine, that wont have problems with special items, gear or tomes. which I don't know what that class, muilticlass is yet.

[Nysrock]

Now first off, saying that you CAN'T be a solid build with 28pts is BS. I just recently TR'd on of the very first characters I made when DDO first came out. He was a 18/2 Ranger/Fighter Dwarf. Now back in the day when I made him the level cap was 10 and there were no prestige classes so I started him out with the following stats 18/10/14/8/14/6. Of course once they came out with prestige classes I had to wait until I could find a +3 Dex tome to get Tempest.

I'm not saying he was a perfect build, I had maxed out Heal skill :o, Jump and Spot with some leftover in Search. But by the time he hit 20 and could TR I had all the devotion enhancements, around 460hp and 570sp. I could self heal for about 100-150 normal and crit for about 250. That along with the buffs gave me a very survivable character.

I did TR him though because it was nice to actually have more build pts. Plus I dropped 1 level of fighter for 1 level of rogue. I lose 1 str doing that but this way I can have max UMD which is a must on all of my current builds. And I gain some sneak damage which is always nice.

Not sure if this helps you or not but I love my Dwarf Ranger TWF. Might want to look into one of them as they are not as complicated as some multiclass builds and can still solo a lot of quests.

[SavvyGabby]

Now first off, saying that you CAN'T be a solid build with 28pts is BS. I just recently TR'd on of the very first characters I made when DDO first came out. He was a 18/2 Ranger/Fighter Dwarf. Now back in the day when I made him the level cap was 10 and there were no prestige classes so I started him out with the following stats 18/10/14/8/14/6. Of course once they came out with prestige classes I had to wait until I could find a +3 Dex tome to get Tempest.

I'm not saying he was a perfect build, I had maxed out Heal skill :o, Jump and Spot with some leftover in Search. But by the time he hit 20 and could TR I had all the devotion enhancements, around 460hp and 570sp. I could self heal for about 100-150 normal and crit for about 250. That along with the buffs gave me a very survivable character.

I did TR him though because it was nice to actually have more build pts. Plus I dropped 1 level of fighter for 1 level of rogue. I lose 1 str doing that but this way I can have max UMD which is a must on all of my current builds. And I gain some sneak damage which is always nice.

Not sure if this helps you or not but I love my Dwarf Ranger TWF. Might want to look into one of them as they are not as complicated as some multiclass builds and can still solo a lot of quests.


ahh I see. Well I didn't know a solid 28pt build was possible, cause lol every time I read stuff I see comments saying oh not good with out 32 pts and oh that don't do well with out this with out that lol that got confusing too. Thank you for telling me that there is such thing as a 28pt solid build. Now okay ranger is good with it, but what about other classes? I do like the elves and TWF. But I already made a tempest trap monkey that I am duoing with my bf. This is a second char I wanna make for soloing, for when my bf cant duo with me. Most of my problem is too is too many choices and cant make up my mind too.

I liked the 18 cleric/2 fighter I had but lol I gotta re-do it, I did have a lot of fun on it. She was able to do a 200 lizard thing spawn in the second town and the sailors blow up the boat orc island quest solo with a nanny bot but I used a favor soul for a nanny bot. But then xD I see calling it a nanny bot making fun of it. Like its somthing I shouldnt be proud of cause I used a nanny bot.. I don't care if I need nanny bots or not to help me fight solo just as long as I get my stuff I want unlocked.

[Nysrock]

ahh I see. Well I didn't know a solid 28pt build was possible, cause lol every time I read stuff I see comments saying oh not good with out 32 pts and oh that don't do well with out this with out that lol that got confusing too. Thank you for telling me that there is such thing as a 28pt solid build. Now okay ranger is good with it, but what about other classes? I do like the elves and TWF. But I already made a tempest trap monkey that I am duoing with my bf. This is a second char I wanna make for soloing, for when my bf cant duo with me.

LOL. I love how some people forget, or are newer players and don't know, that before the DDO store you had to get to 1750 favor to get 32pt builds. And people did that with 28pt builds. And we did VoN when the cap was 12 and Shroud when the cap was 16. Now granted, you can have a run go faster and smoother with the 17-20 Shroud runs but it can and WAS done with 13-16 groups first.

Sorry to get a bit off topic but there are some people playing now who tell people they can't do anything right without every greensteel item and raid loot made to Epic and a full party with 3 healers and blah, blah, blah.....:mad: My best advice to you is decide what you want to be (caster, melee, etc) and then find a build that is similar to what you want to do and then create it however you want. Use peoples ideas if they seem to follow what you want but don't get hung up on the idea that you have to have a perfect build to play. Each person plays differently and the only perfect builds are the ones you enjoy playing.

Now, go out there and make a Dwarf Female Ranger. Grundal hasn't met a nice Dwarven lass since he left his homeland. :D

[SavvyGabby]

Now, go out there and make a Dwarf Female Ranger. Grundal hasn't met a nice Dwarven lass since he left his homeland. :D

LMFAO omg .... Uhh... my boyfriend is playing a dwarf battle cleric LOL that I am duoing I'm just the thief lol getting us into locked rooms and treasure. . I don't wanna dwarf though I like elf or human cause elf lol can have blue hair lol or whacked color hair and human well better in fighting lol I guess..

[SavvyGabby]

LOL. I love how some people forget, or are newer players and don't know, that before the DDO store you had to get to 1750 favor to get 32pt builds. And people did that with 28pt builds.


LOL Exactly!! lol Is why I was being sarcastic with the no such thing as a good 28pt build cause LOL I see this is no good with out 32pts and etc makes me sit here and wonder how the heck did they unlock there points with out playing a 28pt build in the first place or with out buying into the game. LOL They had to some how. It's like 32pts got to there heads. I am not bashing 32pt builds its great and all but to get that unlocked like I am trying to do, I'm sure they did a 28pt build too, to get the it unlocked.

[Nysrock]

LMFAO omg .... Uhh... my boyfriend is playing a dwarf battle cleric LOL that I am duoing I'm just the thief lol getting us into locked rooms and treasure. . I don't wanna dwarf though I like elf or human cause elf lol can have blue hair lol or whacked color hair and human well better in fighting lol I guess..

What? Prefer those skinny elves over a solid dwarf? :eek::mad: Bah!
*mumbles about elves and women in general as he swigs his ale*

LOL.....Sorry, bored here at work so was just having fun. Unfortunately my wife doesn't play DDO but I can just see it now "Honey, I just met the nicest dwarf ranger in DDO. You should see her whiskers! And stout! Boy is she stou.....Honey, why do you have a frying pa..."*CLANG* LMAO:D

[Impaqt]

Sheesh..

STOP trying to "figure it out" before you play.

Roll a character and go have FUN. DOnt worry about what is "Best" or what is "the right way"

the forums have 2 predominant frames of mind... the powergamers who assume everyone has millions of plat and can do whatever they want... and the more dangerous second group which is People who have no idea what they are talking about... but talk anyway.....


There are a few "In themiddle" but until you get a grasp on the game, you wont have much of an idea who they are...

Go play. Stop worrying so much. Its a game.

[SavvyGabby]

Sheesh..

STOP trying to "figure it out" before you play.

Roll a character and go have FUN. DOnt worry about what is "Best" or what is "the right way"

the forums have 2 predominant frames of mind... the powergamers who assume everyone has millions of plat and can do whatever they want... and the more dangerous second group which is People who have no idea what they are talking about... but talk anyway.....


There are a few "In themiddle" but until you get a grasp on the game, you wont have much of an idea who they are...

Go play. Stop worrying so much. Its a game.


I just worry cause I wanna have something thats not gonna constantly die lol I want my points and drow unlocked thats all I mainly care about cause I have plans already for them. I did test drive the game already. Just looking for something good to get my stuff I want unlocked.

[Nysrock]

I just worry cause I wanna have something thats not gonna constantly die lol I want my points and drow unlocked. I did test drive the game already. Just looking for something good to get my stuff I want unlocked. I have plans for the points and drow already.

Biggest thing for not dying is.....CON is not a dump stat. :)

[SavvyGabby]

What? Prefer those skinny elves over a solid dwarf? :eek::mad: Bah!
*mumbles about elves and women in general as he swigs his ale*

LOL.....Sorry, bored here at work so was just having fun. Unfortunately my wife doesn't play DDO but I can just see it now "Honey, I just met the nicest dwarf ranger in DDO. You should see her whiskers! And stout! Boy is she stou.....Honey, why do you have a frying pa..."*CLANG* LMAO:D

LOL nice lmfao...



Well elfs have resistance to enchantments lol and cool hair color choices not fair lol. I have a human tempest trapmonkey I am on now. This game reminds me of wow a lot , perfect world and Dragon age... a lot similar to those which I played those a lot. I have a feel for the game just wanna understand it more.

[SavvyGabby]

Biggest thing for not dying is.....CON is not a dump stat. :)

Ty.. LOL I was wondering if someone deletes a character is there a way of recovering it ? like a character recovery system??? Like some games have.

[NadgersFishtoaster]

If you are frustrated with DDO because you can't get a grip on the mechanics, I would recommend you consider taking a break to do some research and make sure you have a more solid grasp on the rule system it was based on.

If you type D&D3.5 SRD into Google you'll find free versions of the D&D3.5 rule system that you can read your way through, on your own time and thus learn the basic system that DDO is based on. Look for the underlying mechanisms, such as bonus types, differing types of status (stunned, nauseated, etc), poisons, spell casting attribute requirements and try to look for important spells and countermeasures.

This is no more reading than an adolescent, planning to start a D&D3.5 campaign, would do. Kids and adults of all ages have been doing this kind of things since conventional role-playing games were first published in the 70s.

This will allow you to read and understand D&D3.5 "stat blocks" then you can read and understand the DDO Wikis, the DDO Compendium and in-game item descriptions easier. You do have to spot the differences from D&D3.5 to DDO but this will be easier because, if you reading and digestion of the rules worked, they will stand out.

Then you can learn the DDO slang too, and lo, the forums will start to make more sense.

Now that is covered, some classes are a lot harder to design for than for others. Paladins are virtually a design paradox in that you normally can't get enough of virtually every attribute to make one that seems competent.

I would recommend a vanilla class that is simple for you or other people to grasp. A Dwarven melee character that uses axes, for example, is one that can probably avoid the kophesh debates for example. However to even to play the simplest melee characters you still need to understand the wider, magical environment you'll be playing in.

When designing a character always look ahead, you should know the requirements for the prestige enhancements you want to take and design in the pre-requisites.

In summary DDO is tough but, as long as you take the time to lay solid foundations, it can be understood.

[phalaeo]

LMFAO omg .... Uhh... my boyfriend is playing a dwarf battle cleric LOL that I am duoing I'm just the thief lol getting us into locked rooms and treasure. . I don't wanna dwarf though I like elf or human cause elf lol can have blue hair Any race but Warforged can have any colour hair. My Halfling has Blue hair- you just have to buy it in the DDO store. lol or whacked color hair and human well better in fighting lol I guess..Humans aren't better at fighting because they're human. Some races are better than others for certain classes, but it's not set in stone.

In red.

[Nysrock]

Ty.. LOL I was wondering if someone deletes a character is there a way of recovering it ? like a character recovery system??? Like some games have.

Nope. Like a delicious ice cream cone, once it's gone it's gone. You can always get another but it will never be the same. :(

[SavvyGabby]

phalaeo Well I meant better then the elf in some ways and as in free whacked hair lol style colors. I know its kinda dumb liking elf cause the hair LOL. I don't wanna waste my points in buying dye for hair

[SavvyGabby]

Nope. Like a delicious ice cream cone, once it's gone it's gone. You can always get another but it will never be the same. :(

oh man that sucks lol I should have taken her pp xD off her before hand o well.

[SavvyGabby]

If you are frustrated with DDO because you can't get a grip on the mechanics, I would recommend you consider taking a break to do some research and make sure you have a more solid grasp on the rule system it was based on.

If you type D&D3.5 SRD into Google you'll find free versions of the D&D3.5 rule system that you can read your way through, on your own time and thus learn the basic system that DDO is based on. Look for the underlying mechanisms, such as bonus types, differing types of status (stunned, nauseated, etc), poisons, spell casting attribute requirements and try to look for important spells and countermeasures.

This is no more reading than an adolescent, planning to start a D&D3.5 campaign, would do. Kids and adults of all ages have been doing this kind of things since conventional role-playing games were first published in the 70s.

This will allow you to read and understand D&D3.5 "stat blocks" then you can read and understand the DDO Wikis, the DDO Compendium and in-game item descriptions easier. You do have to spot the differences from D&D3.5 to DDO but this will be easier because, if you reading and digestion of the rules worked, they will stand out.

Then you can learn the DDO slang too, and lo, the forums will start to make more sense.

Now that is covered, some classes are a lot harder to design for than for others. Paladins are virtually a design paradox in that you normally can't get enough of virtually every attribute to make one that seems competent.

I would recommend a vanilla class that is simple for you or other people to grasp. A Dwarven melee character that uses axes, for example, is one that can probably avoid the kophesh debates for example. However to even to play the simplest melee characters you still need to understand the wider, magical environment you'll be playing in.

When designing a character always look ahead, you should know the requirements for the prestige enhancements you want to take and design in the pre-requisites.

In summary DDO is tough but, as long as you take the time to lay solid foundations, it can be understood.

Oooh okay. Well I just wanted a hands on learning experience. I read through stuff the thing is confusing me is people bashing some things and etc for there own reasons.

[Nysrock]

oh man that sucks lol I should have taken her pp xD off her before hand o well.

BTW, what server are you on? If it is Ghallanda I have a lot of starting gear that I could hook you and your boyfriend up with. Or my TR is at level 6 atm if you need someone to help run you through quests and answer any questions. I don't know everything but I have picked up a bit in almost 5 years of playing. :cool:

[sephiroth1084]

If you're rather new to DDO try to ignore most of the stuff on the forums. Find some build that looks fun, or feels fun, and go with it. Only come to the forums with questions that are important for advancing, and then only if you really need to.

A lot of us forum trolls revel in offering advice and information, some of which is obviously biased, but in most cases is far too much data for someone less familiar with the game to absorb. Don't let your forum experience ruin your in-game experience!

If you enjoyed that battlecleric of yours, play that. Come to the forums with questions about feats or spells or whatever, but stick with it until you decide you don't like it anymore, then come to forums and see if it is salvageable. Don't delete a character you're enjoy because someone on the forums told you to do so, and definitely don't delete a character because you're confused about where to go with it.

Everyone's first toon has some problems. Some people figure them out early, some late. Some press through the issues and continue playing the character, while others reroll with more knowledge and experience under their belt. Still, some others choose to Reincarnate the character rather than rerolling. Only you can decide which is the best course of action for you.

Have fun!

[hooblaboo]

This helped me out a lot!
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=232660

[SavvyGabby]

BTW, what server are you on? If it is Ghallanda I have a lot of starting gear that I could hook you and your boyfriend up with. Or my TR is at level 6 atm if you need someone to help run you through quests and answer any questions. I don't know everything but I have picked up a bit in almost 5 years of playing. :cool:

Cannith lol but I dont see why I cant make one on that server too.

[SavvyGabby]

This helped me out a lot!
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=232660

Thank you :D very much

[SavvyGabby]

If you're rather new to DDO try to ignore most of the stuff on the forums. Find some build that looks fun, or feels fun, and go with it. Only come to the forums with questions that are important for advancing, and then only if you really need to.

A lot of us forum trolls revel in offering advice and information, some of which is obviously biased, but in most cases is far too much data for someone less familiar with the game to absorb. Don't let your forum experience ruin your in-game experience!

If you enjoyed that battlecleric of yours, play that. Come to the forums with questions about feats or spells or whatever, but stick with it until you decide you don't like it anymore, then come to forums and see if it is salvageable. Don't delete a character you're enjoy because someone on the forums told you to do so, and definitely don't delete a character because you're confused about where to go with it.

Everyone's first toon has some problems. Some people figure them out early, some late. Some press through the issues and continue playing the character, while others reroll with more knowledge and experience under their belt. Still, some others choose to Reincarnate the character rather than rerolling. Only you can decide which is the best course of action for you.

Have fun!


Thanks I will do that :D

[EustaceTrevelyan]

Okay, I like the game. I test drove it with a DDO version set up of a pally for a while before I decided to look for a rock solid build. I tried a battle cleric for solo build but the debates on the build driving me nuts. I have a tempest trap monkey thats doing well on duo.

I also was thinking of a pally tank, but people say its considered dead weight, which I don't want.

The cleric, Well I deleted her. Cause I am so confused on whats good whats not this is this isn't blah blah... I am starting to get a headache from reading debates, its not helping me figure out what way to go. I like the game but now from so many different things I don't know what to do what to choose or what to play.

Unfortunately I am working with 28pts I am stuck with it till I get 32pt and drow weather I like it or not. What should I do. I am so confused I just cant make up my mind now. My reason for a 28pt build is because Build is better then DDO's pre-set up junk.

I like the pally I started with but there hard to build with out 32pts or drow. Okay well What is possibly good to get the 32pts ,that'll survive?????
I liked the battle cleric but I don't know what build is good or not that wont be a total mess at the end.

Apparently nothing is that decent with out the 32pt build but I just need something that is solid that fights tough, heals and buffs, but that wont be dead weight to get me my points and drow but I don't know what way to go on a 28pt build its driving me nuts .

I went with battle cleric cause I like how it played so far. But I deleted her cause I'm to confused. I am going to make another one, again don't know what to go with.

Is there any success stories with a build? I like builds that people that have actually played there selves and were successful with it.

I am a girl trying to make a char to get my stuff unlocked.

I am sorry if I sound mean up there don't mean too lol Just blowing off steam cause my head was spinning and bout ready to burst.




I felt the same way as you did, i read the forums and thought i needed 32-pts not to be behind, and bought it with points. I'd intended to be mostly freemium, but that initial TP purchase kinda snowballed, and they had me. But you can make a very decent 28pt THF. Prolly go human and fighter for the extra feat, and get a carnifex before you roll it, asssuming you have a character that can hit Delera's. Sword of the Thirty is good choice for those w/o Delera's, available on the AH mostly, or if you're on Thelanis I'll hook you up.

EDIT: Of course, that assumes you want to hit things. Really, the easiest time you'll have as a 28pt-er is a healing cleric. Hit things with a mace and hold a shield when not healing, avoiding aggro of course. Don't skew your stats to be a 'battle-cleric,' since you'll do more damage with spells once you get blade barrier anyway. If you can't solo a given quest, summon some hirelings by putting up a LFM:)

Dwarven fighter build:

http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=2801751&postcount=17



Here, healbot healbot healbot:)

Human cleric:
http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=2775730&postcount=2

[Nysrock]

Cannith lol but I dont see why I cant make one on that server too.

Well if you do just Look up Grundal Alebane. I am on during the afternoon or nights, sometimes all night when I don't work as I am a 3rd shifter. Like I said, he is 6th level now (well actually 7th but haven't taken yet) but I can still outfit you with some gear and advice. Or my son is always asking me to make him another character so I could start a new one again if you needed help.

Hope you find what your looking for and shoot me that line if you make it over to Ghallanda.

[SavvyGabby]

I felt the same way as you did, i read the forums and thought i needed 32-pts not to be behind, and bought it with points. I'd intended to be mostly freemium, but that initial TP purchase kinda snowballed, and they had me. But you can make a very decent 28pt THF. Prolly go human and fighter for the extra feat, and get a carnifex before you roll it, asssuming you have a character that can hit Delera's. Sword of the Thirty is good choice for those w/o Delera's, available on the AH mostly, or if you're on Thelanis I'll hook you up.

EDIT: Of course, that assumes you want to hit things. Really, the easiest time you'll have as a 28pt-er is a healing cleric. Hit things with a mace and hold a shield when not healing, avoiding aggro of course. Don't skew your stats to be a 'battle-cleric,' since you'll do more damage with spells once you get blade barrier anyway. If you can't solo a given quest, summon some hirelings by putting up a LFM:)

Dwarven fighter build:

http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=2801751&postcount=17




Here, healbot healbot healbot:)

Human cleric:
http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=2775730&postcount=2

ty :D But I'm strongly leaning towards his whirlwind fighter lol I wanna use 2 weapons , 2 handed at first then weapons in both hands and just slaughter lol I wanna make a bad A__ LOL punked out monster serial killer xD

[SavvyGabby]

Either that or the Blitz I found that Martdon posted it. She pmed me telling me its as nasty as it looks lol and it looks fun lol. If its gonna slaughter good.


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.7.2
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Level 20 Chaotic Good Elf Male
(12 Fighter \ 6 Barbarian \ 2 Rogue)
Hit Points: 370
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 9
Will: 5

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 16 23
Dexterity 10 10
Constitution 14 14
Intelligence 14 14
Wisdom 8 8
Charisma 10 10

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 2 10
Bluff 0 2
Concentration 2 4
Diplomacy 0 2
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 0 0
Heal -1 -1
Hide 0 0
Intimidate 4 25
Jump 7 20
Listen -1 24
Move Silently 0 0
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 2 2
Search 2 4
Spot -1 1
Swim 3 6
Tumble 1 1
Use Magic Device 1 23

Level 1 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I


Level 2 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 3 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Fighter Flanking Mastery I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I


Level 5 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 6 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Stunning Blow
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Attack I
Enhancement: Kensei Falchion Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I


Level 7 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+0.5)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 9 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage II


Level 10 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Quick Draw
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Attack II


Level 11 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+0.5)
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) I
Enhancement: Fighter Falchion Specialization I


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Listen (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II


Level 13 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Listen (+4)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV


Level 14 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Listen (+4)
Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I


Level 15 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Listen (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Improved Damage Reduction I
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I


Level 16 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Listen (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I


Level 17 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Listen (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)


Level 18 (Barbarian)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Listen (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker I


Level 19 (Rogue)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+10)
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I


Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Skill: Listen (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+6)

RESET ENHANCEMENTS

Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Barbarian Improved Damage Reduction I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker I
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Kensei Falchion Mastery I
Enhancement: Kensei Falchion Mastery II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II
Enhancement: Fighter Falchion Specialization I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength III
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II


I am trying this

[Nysrock]

The only thing I question about that build you posted is taking Quick Draw at level 10. Maybe somebody knows something I don't but it seems like a wasted feat to me. I'd think rearranging your feats just a tad so you can take Skill Focus:UMD would be better if you are going to be investing points into it. But that's just my 2cp worth.

[SavvyGabby]

The only thing I question about that build you posted is taking Quick Draw at level 10. Maybe somebody knows something I don't but it seems like a wasted feat to me. I'd think rearranging your feats just a tad so you can take Skill Focus:UMD would be better if you are going to be investing points into it. But that's just my 2cp worth.

LOL oooh, nvm I found http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=232660&page=4 Warpriest of Siberys (L19 Cleric/L1 Fighter) That I'm doing cause it says it can do well soloing up to 20 lol or with a nanny bot

made up my mind finally lol after reading through there.


Gone do the other too to see what its like. So i can switch back and forth on both chars for a change of pace lol when i get tired of one.

[NadgersFishtoaster]

Oooh okay. Well I just wanted a hands on learning experience. I read through stuff the thing is confusing me is people bashing some things and etc for there own reasons.

My advice is admittedly about the longer route to avoiding confusion. A bit like ensuring you read the map, learn to use a compass and "break in" your walking boots before a long hike.

However it is good to not that others have recommended a Dwarf as a simple, starting build.

[SavvyGabby]

My advice is admittedly about the longer route to avoiding confusion. A bit like ensuring you read the map, learn to use a compass and "break in" your walking boots before a long hike.

However it is good to not that others have recommended a Dwarf as a simple, starting build.

I did though. I also have my pc game controller set up to it. I have had experience with wow,perfect world, Dragon age, tales of a pirates life, fiesta, POTC online, EO, CO, and play station games like final fantasy 7-12, legend of the dragoons, chrono cross rpg games and stuff. Played this for a while on a pally. I can run walk jump swim well also jump and swing lol a weapon in this one I know how to use a compass lol.

I am going to research more, but for now I am trying the blitz and war priest I found, and going from there on trial and error see how they do and have fun with them till I can get my points and drow for my plan for a wicked character I have planned for it already.
I will do more research but my brain needs a rest from research at the moment. So I'll mess around with these 2 for a bit for fun and research more on the side when I feel up to it.

[SavvyGabby]

Nope. Like a delicious ice cream cone, once it's gone it's gone. You can always get another but it will never be the same. :(

LMAO well at least I got her name back with the war priest I made xD now. NOT deleting it this time. Which her name is Pumpkinpie :p

Nysrock do u have a character on cannith I can add to friends list cause your funny lol and nice to talk too

I can server hop lol and make a ranger on ur server lol.

[SavvyGabby]

The reason I like weapon swingers is cause... I like it to help take frustrations out on monsters lol. I get server anxiety attacks, good way to unleash the anger is on a monster in a game.

I am on mostly all day , sometimes nights lol all night, depending on my sleep schedul lol which I need to go do now its 5:30am here lol

[NadgersFishtoaster]

I am going to research more, but for now I am trying the blitz and war priest I found, and going from there on trial and error see how they do and have fun with them till I can get my points and drow for my plan for a wicked character I have planned for it already.

I will do more research but my brain needs a rest from research at the moment. So I'll mess around with these 2 for a bit for fun and research more on the side when I feel up to it.

This isn't bad strategy. The more hands on things that you do the more things you'll be able to spot when you read up later, after all.

Me? I'm just off to read up on Bard song on DDO to ensure that I understand its translation from D&D3.5.

[SavvyGabby]

This isn't bad strategy. The more hands on things that you do the more things you'll be able to spot when you read up later, after all.

Me? I'm just off to read up on Bard song on DDO to ensure that I understand its translation from D&D3.5.

oooh, well I can read as I go along? Just last few days I been doing nothing but reading and my heads hurting from it is why I wanna brake from it. My brain feels like its swimming :-/ Im not just gonna go all the way and not read at all till the end. I do plan on reading as I go along. Just gonna start them go through like first and second town then read up more. It is also 5:30am I am tired and need sleep I haven't slept yet from being up reading through guides and forum.
I like to plan ahead but I like hands on learning too cause it helps me learn better. I've been taking to much reading in recently and just need a rest from it for like a few hours or so or day or so then I'll read more. I'm taking to much in all at once.. The other night I pulled a all nighter no sleep all day/night reading guides, forums, suggestions and builds. Level 3 is as far as I got so far because I stopped to read.

[Vindicatus]

Fun, viable, 28 point, no tome builds are possible. Visit Aranticus' "Templates for New Players."

http://ddowiki.com/page/Templates_for_New_Players

[SavvyGabby]

To much of a good thing can be bad sometimes and stressful on a person. My real story, Yes I duo with my bf, and like the game.



The reason I do things some ways different and want to read on my own pace, now were getting into my dark side. My mental issues I have. I have Sever anxiety, Manic Depression, ADHD, Post dramatic stress, and Bipolar. I didn't ask to be born this way. Not my fault. I hate it about me too. I am a walking stress filled time bomb pretty much lol. Easy to get a long with but can be a walking time bomb at times if a wrong words said to me or if i take something easily wrong. I get random panic attacks and I don't know why or what triggers them at times. This is like my escape from that and way of keeping myself calm is playing games or taking frustrations out on. Also for fun to be happy and not depressed all the time sometimes I was suicidal not no more though . I use games for aid to help with me learning to control my problems.

I read to much, take to much in like I have been doing recently on here I am going to lead my self right into an attack. Not good. This is why I keep repeating I need a rest from the reading for a little bit. Taking to much in need to stop it and reduce my reading before my head explodes. Have a little fun then get back into the reading but of course I don't plan on waiting to long to read more. I probably will be reading more tomorrow. I just need a short breather from it before I get my self worked up to reduce my stress level from trying to understand this and that.

My counselor is working with me and said to find something that helps keep you calm and happy, and I did, playing online games. The anxiety attacks I get are similar to a stroke. Last one I had everyone here thought I had a stroke but no it was classified as mild attack, it was nasty.

Games, this is one of the things I enjoy that is helping keep my mind at peace and not letting my mind dwell on things to get my anxiety level up. I am on meds but it don't help all the time. I want to understand this game and I will but at my own pace so I don't get my anxiety up for my own safety reasons.

[Martdon]

The only thing I question about that build you posted is taking Quick Draw at level 10. Maybe somebody knows something I don't but it seems like a wasted feat to me. I'd think rearranging your feats just a tad so you can take Skill Focus:UMD would be better if you are going to be investing points into it. But that's just my 2cp worth.

Quickdraw is often questioned, but not only does makes you change weapons faster, but it also has an untyped bonus, of making action boost animation times less. So many people with fighters, or heavy splashes, relying on haste boost, take it because they have the feat, it's a fighter bonus feat, and it allows them to keep haste boost up with minimal animation time in between. This has been documented and proven. (there is a discussion about it on the original Blitz build thread) http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=264744

[SavvyGabby]

Quickdraw is often questioned, but not only does makes you change weapons faster, but it also has an untyped bonus, of making action boost animation times less. So many people with fighters, or heavy splashes, relying on haste boost, take it because they have the feat, it's a fighter bonus feat, and it allows them to keep haste boost up with minimal animation time in between. This has been documented and proven. (there is a discussion about it on the original Blitz build thread) http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=264744

I read that through your link before and am gonna do the blitz anyways and just have fun with it . It looks like a wicked killer and thats what I want lol. I also made ur pally and gonna do a cleric too so I got some to switch around on. I like your builds and how detailed they are. I was getting activated with the lol debates now that I got some sleep lol I can clearly think now with out my brain storming and gonna do the bliz which I already started lol and the pally and the cleric so I get to mess with the 3 to switch around with. I am a premium player and got 4 characters unlocked to make.