View Full Version : Wow. There is NO way...
Culver.Civello
12-03-2010, 12:43 AM
A +1 dex tome.... 40KPP!
Watching the AH, the prices are just soaring way up! This is getting absolutely nuts...
The Dex tome was just the start....next thing I know, there is a +1Int Tome for 100kpp!!!
Luckily I got some good deals on some tomes from some Common sense people in Marketplace... but my constant searching in the AH for various items is slowly coming to a close as it is just getting too ridiculous. For you new players that don't have the money to spend...HAHA Good Luck! At this rate...your screwed. xD
There needs to be some kind of official pricing guide...that can help people regulate prices. Not really sure if it will help, but DANG! There is NO way I will EVER spend 100kpp for a +1int tome. ABSOLUTELY not. Some of these other tomes are higher than str tomes that are usually higher anyways...
Well... I guess I shouldn't complain too much. I can now throw a item on there for usual price and usually always get it sold... but when people don't know that 'usual' price and look to see them at 40kpp-100kpp, things are just going to get way out of control...(as if they aren't already)
Anyways. /rant off
Good luck on your future AH buys.
Goldeneye
12-03-2010, 12:51 AM
The Auction House is not a fair indication of Market Value, and never will be.
RequiemVampie
12-03-2010, 01:01 AM
Also take into consideration that newer players will look on the AH to see what amount to post something for and see all the very high plat-farmer/crackhead prices and use that number.
Culver.Civello
12-03-2010, 01:03 AM
Also take into consideration that newer players will look on the AH to see what amount to post something for and see all the very high plat-farmer/crackhead prices and use that number.
Yupp...
... but when people don't know that 'usual' price and look to see them at 40kpp-100kpp, things are just going to get way out of control...
Doxmaster
12-03-2010, 01:04 AM
Back in my days, a good tome was 20k. Gold, that is.
Nowadays, you kids are paying 20 times that! MADNESS! GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!
That whole "Plat is the new gold!" thing turbine oh so long ago really F'd us up. 10x the price for the same items and no one noticed until their purses were empty.
stoolcannon
12-03-2010, 01:30 AM
Try Ghallanda where a single chipmunk funk is 110-200k depending on the day and large scales are 750+
NinjaNeed
12-03-2010, 01:51 AM
This is a good idea, but just remember, something is only worth as much as someone else will pay for it!!!
Culver.Civello
12-03-2010, 01:59 AM
There just needs to be some kind of regulation of AH prices. I kinda feel sorry for the new players wanting to get some decent items... at this rate, the AH will be way out of their league until they get to those quest in the higher levels that actually gives a decent amount of Plat from items....
Just creating a giant gap.
TheDearLeader
12-03-2010, 02:12 AM
Auction House prices are very easy to manage.
Never buy anything from the AH. In fact, don't even look in the AH.
Problem solved.
Vindicatus
12-03-2010, 06:26 AM
There just needs to be some kind of regulation of AH prices.
Perhaps an AH deposit based upon opening minimum bid or buyout price instead of item base value? Sell the item, get the deposit back. Fail to sell that masterwork padded armor for 1,000 pp, The Coin Lords smirk on the way to the bank.
balancetraveller
12-03-2010, 06:32 AM
It's not a real price until it gets a buyer. And you never know if there is any.
r3dl4nce
12-03-2010, 06:32 AM
There just needs to be some kind of regulation of AH prices.If people put items at a price and someone buy them, well, what is wrong? Moneys in DDO are a no-value, the REAL trades are done with epic scrolls, large greensteel ingredients, red dragon scales, some very valuable named item and so on. In 2-3 months of raiding/questing at level 20, you'll have more than 2millions plats.
I kinda feel sorry for the new players wanting to get some decent items... Most low level items can be acquired from quests. +3 stat items ML 5 from tangleroot. +4 STR gloves from Delera. Just to name 2 items. Chronoscope too has a good list of rewards for low level characters.
Culver.Civello
12-03-2010, 06:37 AM
Most low level items can be acquired from quests. +3 stat items ML 5 from tangleroot. +4 STR gloves from Delera. Just to name 2 items. Chronoscope too has a good list of rewards for low level characters.
Let me rephrase that. lol. F2P New people. xD
>.> Not that I care all that much... but eh. Still crazy.
Lord_WC
12-03-2010, 06:41 AM
I think they do sell for 40kpp. I put a +1 dex tome on the ah as usual: starting price is the actual price of the item (2750pp iirc), no buyout, 3 day posting. Imagine my suprise when it actually sold for 25kpp (after the ah fee). People actually are willing to pay this much for it, I don't really know why, they usually sell for about 10kpp (after the ah fee).
Did they change the drop rates on them, or +6 items price went way up?
r3dl4nce
12-03-2010, 06:48 AM
Let me rephrase that. lol. F2P New people. xDThey can live with what they find. F2P new people have a gold cap limit so even with low prices on AH, they could not buy most of them because of the gold limit
flynnjsw
12-03-2010, 06:53 AM
The best regulation is already in place. If it sells, then the prices will stay the way they are. If they do not, they will go down. There does not need to be an in game mechanism to enforce prices.
Culver.Civello
12-03-2010, 06:55 AM
I think they do sell for 40kpp. I put a +1 dex tome on the ah as usual: starting price is the actual price of the item (2750pp iirc), no buyout, 3 day posting. Imagine my suprise when it actually sold for 25kpp (after the ah fee). People actually are willing to pay this much for it, I don't really know why, they usually sell for about 10kpp (after the ah fee).
Did they change the drop rates on them, or +6 items price went way up?
Well...when people are desperate, I think they are willing to buy whatever they can get. As long as they can get their hands on the plat. Good way to make money I guess, but at the rate it is going, you will be spending that much more as well....
hecate355
12-03-2010, 07:06 AM
I think they do sell for 40kpp. I put a +1 dex tome on the ah as usual: starting price is the actual price of the item (2750pp iirc), no buyout, 3 day posting. Imagine my suprise when it actually sold for 25kpp (after the ah fee). People actually are willing to pay this much for it, I don't really know why, they usually sell for about 10kpp (after the ah fee).
Did they change the drop rates on them, or +6 items price went way up?
there is no way i personally buy +1 tome over 30k, in dire need i may buy it for 25-30k, but usually i find alternate offer at sub 20k or so, i cant see this as huge problem, i just wont buy those, only matters if you really want that specific tome right now and there are no alternatives.
Hokonoso
12-03-2010, 07:21 AM
am i the only one that doesnt eat +1 tomes? hell beyond the new chrono gear i didnt even twink until lvl 9 as 1-9 takes a day regardless of toon/gear and i eat all my tomes at 7... i guess im just a power gamer so +1 tomes dont make sense to me at all since in a few hours ill be able to eat +2s... and yes im refering to double TRs not toons fresh off the boat.
Culver.Civello
12-03-2010, 07:25 AM
am i the only one that doesnt eat +1 tomes? hell beyond the new chrono gear i didnt even twink until lvl 9 as 1-9 takes a day regardless of toon/gear and i eat all my tomes at 7... i guess im just a power gamer so +1 tomes dont make sense to me at all since in a few hours ill be able to eat +2s... and yes im refering to double TRs not toons fresh off the boat.
Agreed, but some people don't play long. I had a friend of mine take about a month to get to 7. lol. That, and there have been some builds I've used personally that I've used a quick +1tome to fill the build out for a certain feat early on. It all really depends I guess.
Lord_WC
12-03-2010, 07:34 AM
Well...when people are desperate, I think they are willing to buy whatever they can get. As long as they can get their hands on the plat. Good way to make money I guess, but at the rate it is going, you will be spending that much more as well....
I think you miss my point. I'm completely fine with 10kpp for a tome (or even the base 2750). I really don't care about it, it's just a change to buy pots from. It was suprising to say the least that they simply just started to sell for about 2-3 times the plat they used to.
Hendrik
12-04-2010, 02:31 PM
Auction House prices are very easy to manage.
Never buy anything from the AH. In fact, don't even look in the AH.
Problem solved.
Best advice evah!
;)
kernal42
12-04-2010, 02:48 PM
The price of an item in the AH is irrelevant unless it sells. Unfortunately, the high prices are also most noticable; because they don't sell, they're listed for longer.
But abnormally high prices are no reason to complain - if you're looking for a +1 dex tome, and I list one for 100kpp, you're still better off than if I just hadn't listed it; at least now you have the option to severely overpay if you're desperate. If you choose not to, you're no worse off than if I hadn't listed the time.
-Kernal
lazyninja81
12-04-2010, 02:51 PM
There just needs to be some kind of regulation of AH prices. I kinda feel sorry for the new players wanting to get some decent items... at this rate, the AH will be way out of their league until they get to those quest in the higher levels that actually gives a decent amount of Plat from items....
Just creating a giant gap.
There are still some good deals to be had though. Was equipping a lowbie alt the other day and grabbed +3 mithril chainmail the other day for 3k pp, as well as flaming burst pure good light hammer and a pure good holy light mace for less than 5.5k pp each. Sure there were posts for similar stuff at 10x the price but people are posting stuff cheap too.
Not disagreeing with you that stuff is being way over priced. When posting I always try to undercut the cheapest buyout for comparable gear. That is the only type of regulation I think we can expect.
PopeJual
12-04-2010, 02:53 PM
There needs to be some kind of official pricing guide...that can help people regulate prices. Not really sure if it will help, but DANG! There is NO way I will EVER spend 100kpp for a +1int tome. ABSOLUTELY not. Some of these other tomes are higher than str tomes that are usually higher anyways...
[backwards day]Your suggestion worked very well at keeping prices low and supply adequate for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe.[/backwards day]
Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it. This is the ultimate law of all economic activity.
If that tome isn't worth the price listed, then no one will buy it. Problem solved.
I had an ML 10 +1 Paralyzing Longbow that I had put Frost on during the Ice games. I needed to do some inventory shuffling and I didn't want that bow to get sold or lost during the shuffle, so I parked it on the AH for 300,000 plat so that I could get it back in the mail the next day when I was ready to use it. I put it up for 300,000 plat since I didn't want anyone to buy it and I couldn't be bothered to run back to the mailboxes while I was doing all this.
Someone bought it.
I don't know why someone would pay 300,000 plat for an ML 10 +1 Paralyzing Longbow with the added Frost (it wasn't even Icy Burst), but they did. I went shopping for a replacement Paralyzing bow and I paid MUCH less than 300,000 for its replacement. I'll put Icy Burst on it in a couple of weeks.
Who knows why some people put up auctions for such a rediculous price. Who knows why some people buy some of the garbage I put up on the AH occasionally?
That's the beauty of the free market. Everyone gets to choose what they are willing to sell and everyone gets to choose what they are willing to buy.
PopeJual
12-04-2010, 02:55 PM
am i the only one that doesnt eat +1 tomes?
I can understand why a Wizard might eat a +1 Tome at level 3 since she is putting her level up points into Int and that will give her an extra couple of permanent skill points on her character, but for anything else, I really don't see the need for a +1 stat tome.
You'll be level 7 by the end of the week anyway. Why not wait for that?
i list all my +1 tomes 7.5k start 17.5k buyout. sometimes they sell immediately. sometimes in 3 days. Doesn't bother me either way. I don't bother with +1 tomes anymore.
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