View Full Version : Why no raise dead?
Vellrad
11-27-2010, 10:51 PM
Could someone explain me, clerics never bothers to raise someone at spectral dragon?
Is it really so fun to know someone won't get scale and will have to wait another 3+ hours for next chance?
Today I saw 3 people (including myself) asking cleric standing nearby for raise and didn't received one- we was all released with no dragonscale because someone takes pleassure knowing that 3 people won't get scale.
Drekisen
11-27-2010, 10:56 PM
Kinda lame...sorry that happened to you. I think you can use those rez cakes on yourself in there...only thing I can think of is if noone will rez you....use the cake and go to a safe spot and wait for event to finish...you'll at least get your scale.
PopeJual
11-27-2010, 11:02 PM
Could someone explain me, clerics never bothers to raise someone at spectral dragon?
Is it really so fun to know someone won't get scale and will have to wait another 3+ hours for next chance?
Today I saw 3 people (including myself) asking cleric standing nearby for raise and didn't received one- we was all released with no dragonscale because someone takes pleassure knowing that 3 people won't get scale.
Did you send a /tell or did you just ask for it in general chat. It's entirely possible that they didn't see your request.
There were a couple of people that I only raised today after I got a /tell because I just didn't notice that they were dead.
Elmaster_Thay
11-27-2010, 11:14 PM
There were a couple of people that I only raised today after I got a /tell because I just didn't notice that they were dead.
This, I nearly missed a few myself with my FVS. Send a tell to the healer next time.
PNellesen
11-27-2010, 11:31 PM
The best way to prevent this is to create a party in your Altar room and make sure everyone in the room is in it. It will VASTLY increase your chances of getting a raise - when I'm on my cleric, the first thing I do is tell people in the room to either join my party, or invite me to theirs. The last thing I want is someone in my room to die - much rather they be alive making my job easier ;)
You don't mention if the fight was over or not, but speaking from my own experience, it can be VERY easy to miss the fact that 2 or 3 people in your room are dead if they aren't in your party - in their defense, the cleric may have simply not noticed it in the middle of the action, and once the dragon's slain there's not a lot of time before you're popped out back to Delera's.
biggin
11-28-2010, 12:12 AM
Aiso, I don't know if it's gotten better, but the one time I ran in there with guildies it was just a huge lag spike then over. I just spammed heals on myself and hoped for the best. Again, I doubt many people wouldn't raise you on purpose.
mcgowan
11-28-2010, 12:21 AM
Aiso, I don't know if it's gotten better, but the one time I ran in there with guildies it was just a huge lag spike then over. I just spammed heals on myself and hoped for the best. Again, I doubt many people wouldn't raise you on purpose.
This. I don't know how many times I've gotten the notification that the dragon is slain while the graphics are showing him still up. I "finish" sometimes a good minute or two after the action is already over and they're pulling everyone out. I stand center and tell people to run near me because the lag is so bad my only available strategy is to spam heals and BB.
Chette
11-28-2010, 12:23 AM
Could someone explain me, clerics never bothers to raise someone at spectral dragon?
Is it really so fun to know someone won't get scale and will have to wait another 3+ hours for next chance?
Today I saw 3 people (including myself) asking cleric standing nearby for raise and didn't received one- we was all released with no dragonscale because someone takes pleassure knowing that 3 people won't get scale.
I am sure it wasn't people taking pleasure in you not getting a dragonscale. It was more likely that they simply didn't know you were dead. I always take my cleric into the summoning chamber, and it is extremely difficult to see what the health is of the other people in the room, and also difficult to see if people are dead, especially in a crowded room. I generally stand in the middle of the room with my aura on, so people can see I am a cleric, and then send me a /tell if they need something. I may have general chat turned on, but don't always remember, as I leave it turned off the rest of the time.
The best way to ensure survival, and victory (other than being self-sufficient), is to be in a full balanced party of the same level and enter the summoning chamber at the same time. That way you will be in the same instance and can communicate through voice and party chat. You will also be able to see the location and health of the members of your party.
BossOfEarth
11-28-2010, 12:41 AM
I didn't rez someone in Mabar because I misunderstood his message. He was manning the lever for my room but his please and thank you comments in general chat made it sound like he had died and was thanking someone for rezzing him. A few miniutes later he cursed everyone for not rezzing him and he timed out mid curse.
That's when the Dragon finaly got around to attacking my altar. We won, but it would have been much better if he had been clear instead of polite. After all, the squeeky wheel gets the... Gah!
I had someone go off on me because aparantly I did not rez him in time. A few fun facts...
He was not in my raid group, I had no idea he was even dead.
He was at the lever and I was at the altar, odds are I would not have made it in time regardless.
I got alot of people demanding heals the first run of this event who were not in my raid group, my policy now is to spam in general that if you want healing in the room I am at you better be in aura range because all I will be casting is masses near the altar.
I doubt the healers were being malicious, more likely none who were in a position to actually help you, knew you needed help.
JDCrowell
11-28-2010, 03:04 AM
This happened to me the other night and it was frustrating. I'm sure a Cleric or FvS would have raised me...if there was one in the alter room. I only saw about 7 Arcanes in that room. Seriously...I was the only melee. Don't know how it happened, but got in a different instance than my party. Lagg killed me and then I found myself back in the tavern. Seriously annoying, but not really anyone else's fault
Iwinbyrollup
11-28-2010, 09:19 PM
Earlier this evening while standing outside of the spectral dragon chamber a person ran up and stood in front of me. Some time after that I got a tell asking if I could rez them. And that's when I realized that the person standing in front of me was, in fact, a ghost.
I do generally try and follow the chat during the spectral dragon runs in particular, but there's a lot going on and it's easy to miss. It's not easy to tell if someone is a ghost if they're not in your group. All around, it does seem likely that they didn't see you more than anything else.
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