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Goldeneye
11-26-2010, 12:13 PM
Another one of these discussions. I want people's opinions.


Helmet: Minos Legens / Mineral II hp
Goggles: Concord Opposition: +10hp, +150sp, +5 Cha Skills. (link (http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Faction3/velkro_conc_opp.jpg))
Armor: Dragontouched: Res+5, Healing 20%, Greater Spell Pen VIII
Bracers: Glacier
Boots: Delving
Gloves: Glacier
Ring: ??? (Craft: Exceptional Constitution +2)
Ring: Occult Slayer - Strength +6, Exceptional Con +1 (Craft: Exceptional Charisma +2)
Belt: Occult Slayer - Constitution +6, Greater False Life
Cloak: Epic Cloak of the Silver Concord (Craft: Exceptional Charisma +1)
Neck: Torc
Trinket: Head of Good Fortune / Eardweller


Questions:

1.) Does it make sense to put Exceptional Charisma +1 on the yellow slot of the Epic Cloak of the Silver Concord?
2.) Should I put Exceptional Charisma on my Occult Slayer ring? That way, wearing my 2nd tod ring with Exceptional Constitution +2 is optional, in case I want to swap to a different ring such as Shaman's Band (Spell Pen IX) or a different ring in the future.
3.) What should my 2nd ring be?

Thanks to anyone who can provide insight!

Goldeneye
11-26-2010, 01:24 PM
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Attropos
11-26-2010, 04:22 PM
Another one of these discussions. I want people's opinions.


Helmet: Minos Legens / Mineral II hp
Goggles: Concord Opposition: +10hp, +150sp, +5 Cha Skills. (link (http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Faction3/velkro_conc_opp.jpg))
Armor: Dragontouched: Res+5, Healing 20%, Greater Spell Pen VIII
Bracers: Glacier
Boots: Delving
Gloves: Glacier
Ring: ??? (Craft: Exceptional Constitution +2)
Ring: Occult Slayer - Strength +6, Exceptional Con +1 (Craft: Exceptional Charisma +2)
Belt: Occult Slayer - Constitution +6, Greater False Life
Cloak: Epic Cloak of the Silver Concord (Craft: Exceptional Charisma +1)
Neck: Torc
Trinket: Head of Good Fortune / Eardweller


Questions:

1.) Does it make sense to put Exceptional Charisma +1 on the yellow slot of the Epic Cloak of the Silver Concord?
2.) Should I put Exceptional Charisma on my Occult Slayer ring? That way, wearing my 2nd tod ring with Exceptional Constitution +2 is optional, in case I want to swap to a different ring such as Shaman's Band (Spell Pen IX) or a different ring in the future.
3.) What should my 2nd ring be?

Thanks to anyone who can provide insight!

End Game gear is very subjective, but this is what I currently wear: a +3 excep cha ring and a +3 excep con ring, along with Staff of the Petitioner, ECloak, and Litany of the Dead. I have the eardweller as back up for those times I want to nuke, but I would def suggest having litany as your trinket slot.

Your DT is decent, but when you get your ETorc, you'll want to put something else for tier 3. Currently I have Earthgrab guard (I do a lot of epics and I have found it to be my favorite). I would not use the glacier bracers in all honesty; I used to love them, but ETorc/your current DT makes them obsolete. I would either put another GS item there or even Leviks (+20% healing amp is very nice, and it would allow you to put another thing (possibly a +6 dex rune for the times you need reflex saves) in your DT. You are now missing a wizardry/AM item, but those are very easy to find. Just a few suggestions :)

Trillea
11-26-2010, 04:24 PM
Here is my plan for my sorc, and some discussion to go along with it:
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=234243

I hope it helps you some! I put a lot of thought into it.

Goldeneye
11-26-2010, 05:46 PM
Great, thanks for the suggestions!

but what would you do about what I highlighted?

Goldeneye
11-26-2010, 05:49 PM
Aspenor had a great point in that thread:

Personally I prefer going for the Ring of the Silver Concord instead of the Cloak. When Epic Gianthold is released and you can make the Stormreaver's Napkin into an epic item, you will be glad you did.


Ring1: Gnawed (Occult Slayer)
Ring2: Epic Ring of the Silver Concord: Cha+7, Command, Yellow: Exceptional Cha+1.


Pro: frees up slot for Epic Stormreaver's Napkin
Con: Loose 1 umd (Persusion -> Command), 20 hp (No place for Exceptional Con+2)

Trillea
11-26-2010, 05:49 PM
Well that depends, what are you currently using? I would go with a slightly different gearout than what I am currently using if I didn't already have certain of the items due to newer loot.

If I was going from scratch I would plan on:

head: Epic Helm of Ice from Chronosphere (+7 CHA, yellow slot with toughness)
Goggles: Greensteel crafted goggles with +10 hp/+150 SP/+5 UMD
neck: epic Torc with +1 excep CON in the slot
armor: Dragontouched with +10% healing/healing +20%/grtr spell pen 8
bracers: epic Chronoscope bracers (+6 str) with heavy fort in the slot
trinket: Litany/earbug
cloak: epic Chrono cloak (has +7 CON/resist +5 on it) with GFL
boots: Shroud-crafted ConOpp HP boots (1st tier should be neg immunity, 2nd tier and 3rd tier should be HP)
gloves: glacier for the metamagic SP reduction
belt: Rakhir - Con and GFL is handled by cloak
ring 1: rakhir with +2 CON
ring 2: any with a +1 excep CHA and add +2 excep CHA onto it

main weap would be staff of the petitioner for the greater necro/enchantment focus

Goldeneye
11-26-2010, 06:37 PM
I currently have everything there except:

Torc (of course)
Epic Cloak of the Silver Concord: Seal/item
Something crafted on my Occult ring.

Trillea
11-26-2010, 06:44 PM
I currently have everything there except:

Torc (of course)
Epic Cloak of the Silver Concord: Seal/item
Something crafted on my Occult ring.


I would say then that the gearout that you have planned would definitely be optimal for you.

Goldeneye
11-27-2010, 12:40 AM
Excellent. Finished up my Epic Ring of the Silver Concord tonight. For anyone interested, here is my current gear layout:

Current Gear Layout:

Helmet: Minos Legens
Goggles: Concord Opposition: +10hp, +150sp, +5 Cha Skills. (link (http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Faction3/velkro_conc_opp.jpg))
Armor: Dragontouched: Res+5, Healing 20%, Greater Spell Pen VIII
Bracers: Glacier
Boots: Delving
Gloves: Glacier
Ring: Epic Ring of the Silver Concord. Charisma+7, Command (+2 UMD), Crafted: Exceptional Charisma +1
Ring: Occult Slayer - Strength +6, Exceptional Con +1 Crafted: Exceptional Charisma +2
Belt: Occult Slayer - Constitution +6, Greater False Life
Cloak: Epic Cloak of Night: Invisibility Guard, Ghostly, Deathblock, Nightmare Guard, Dodge Bonus +2, DR 5/Good
Neck: Torin's Choker: Superior Potency VI
Trinket: Head of Good Fortune / Eardweller

Totals:

40 Standing Charisma, 44 w/ guild and yugo
40 DC Hold Mass Monster (w/ full buffs)
39 UMD (no cartouche!)
402 hp Standing. 482 w/ rage/yugo/ship
Saves: 29/22/30 with ship buffs.


What I still need:

Torc of Prince-Raiyum-de II
Greensteel HP item.

Edit: Added Epic Cloak of Night

drachine
12-08-2010, 06:44 AM
my toon is drow but this is what my end game gear is going to look like hopefully

Headwear: Minos Legens, Heavy Fortification, Toughness +20HP
Necklace: Epic Shaman's Beads, Charisma +6, Greater Evocation Focus, Efficient Metamagic - Maximize II
Goggles: Epic Spectacles of Spirit Sight, Greater Enchantment Focus, Greater Necromancy Focus
Trinket: Litany of the Dead, +1 to all stats
Armor: Dragontouched Shroud, Greater False Life, Constitution +6, Greater Spell Penetration VIII
Bracers: Air Dexterity Bracers, +45HP, +6 to Dexterity Skills
Cloak: Stormreaver's Napkin, Spell Focus DC+1
Belt: Rahkir's Sash, Archmagi, Intelligence +6
Ring (left): Rahkir's Ring, Exceptional Intelligence +1, Exceptional Constitution +2
Ring (right): Epic Shaman's Band, Spell Penetration IX, Conjuration Focus +1, +40% Damage to Elemental Spells
Gloves: Air Spell Point Gloves, +300 SP, +6 Charisma Skills
Boots: Firestorm Greaves, Fire Absorption 33%, Greater Fire Resistance
Weapons: Staff of the Petitioner, Spell Penetration VIII, Concentration +5, Greater Enchantment Focus, Greater Necromancy Focus, Power Store
Main Hand: Shortsword, Charisma +6, Exceptional Charisma +1, Exceptional Charisma +2 or Shortsword Superior Potency VI
Off Hand: Greenblade

elricken
12-08-2010, 07:11 AM
Answers:
1. Yes, plenty
2. IMO, yes
3. Dunno that for myself

I really like your setup other than the use of the Glacial Set full time, the water savant clickie makes it entirely useless IMO. I would try to fill the glove and bracer slots with something more useful.




My current setup on my human sorc:

Head: Minos
Neck: Embers, Torc, SF Ammy*
Goggles Supreme Tyrant Greensteel Goggles of Wizardry VI (150 SP, Wiz VI, 6 CHA skills, Rez Clickie)
Body: DT I: Heal Amp 10%, Heal Amp 20%, Greater Potency VII - DT II: Resist +5, Heal Amp 20%, Greater Potency VII
Trinket: LOTD, HOGF, Epic Dragon's Eye*, Pouch of Jerky*, Eardweller*
Gloves: Vile Blasphemy, Glacial, Bramble Casters
Bracers: Supreme Tyrant Greensteel Bracers of Concordant Opposition (45 HP, 2 Str Skills, 4 Con Skills)
Belt: Occult Slayer, Full set of Savant Belts*, Purging the Pantheon*
Cloak: Stormreaver's Napkin, Mantle of the Worldshaper*
Ring 1: Occult Slayer Crafted with Cha +2
Ring 2: Epic Ring of the Silver Concord slotted with CHA +1
Boots: Kundrak Delving Boots, Anchoring
Weapon Slot 1 Skiver, Superior Potency VI Sickle
Weapon Slot 2 Staff of the Petitioner
Weapon Slot 4 Dreamspitter

*Denotes situational or clickie use

While I like this setup and it has served me well I have considered going with something like this:

Head: Supreme Tyrant Greensteel Helm of Concordant Opposition (45 HP, 5 CON Skills, 1 STR Skill)
Neck: Torc, Embers, SF Ammy*
Goggles: Supreme Tyant Greensteel Goggles of Wizardy VI (150 SP, 6 CHA Skills, Wiz VI)
Body: DT I: Heavy Fort, Heal Amp 20%, Greater Potency VII
Trinket: LOTD, HOGF, Epic Dragon's Eye*, Pouch of Jerky*, Eardweller*
Gloves: Epic Ruby Encrusted Gauntlets slotted with Toughness and STR 6,Vile Blasphemy*,Bramble Casters
Bracers: Epic Kundrak Warding Bracers Slotted with Greater False Life
Belt: Rakhirs, Full Set of Savants*, Purging the Panteon*
Cloak: Epic Cloak of the Silver Concord slotted with CHA +1, Mantle of the Worldshaper *
Ring I: Rakhirs Crafted with CHA +2
Ring II: Undecided CON +1 Ring Crafted with CON +2
Boots: Kundrak Delving Boots, Anchoring
Weapon Slot 1 Skiver, Superior Potency VI Sickle
Weapon Slot 2 Staff of the Petitioner
Weapon Slot 4 Dreamspitter

*Denotes situational or clickie use


Feel free to add any comments or suggestions to these setups.