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GregorianPL
11-24-2010, 06:18 AM
http://img819.imageshack.us/i/26minshroud.jpg/
that was my fastest run with random people
Deads wasn't my fault ppl was out of my heal range
someone have better ?

Consumer
11-24-2010, 06:24 AM
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/3213/26minshroud.jpg

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sirgog
11-24-2010, 06:25 AM
24 min is my best PUG time. It requires about 4 people that know what they are doing and that can be relied upon to do things (preferably a WF caster that can be relied upon to solo the elemental plus one easy Lieutenant in SE). The rest can be total pileons.

Dozen_Black_Roses
11-24-2010, 11:00 AM
Just want to comment I like the party had two bards, 95% of pugs take bards off the lfm once one is already in party.

ArloOne
11-24-2010, 11:03 AM
Looks, by the death count, you had everyone die in your party at some point...epic fail..fast or not! :)

mudfud
11-24-2010, 11:06 AM
Looks, by the death count, you had everyone die in your party at some point...epic fail..fast or not! :)
Considering 12 deaths are automatic when you enter final part of shroud, yeah epic fail indeed. :rolleyes:

k1ngp1n
11-24-2010, 11:10 AM
My fastest pug so far has been 21 minutes. There was another one that would have been 19 minutes if we hadn't parked at the start for a few waiting for a toon switch, but that's unofficial. 23 minute runs with two or three guildies and the rest pugs are pretty common for us.

yawumpus
11-24-2010, 11:11 AM
If you notice that all 12 slots are filled, a high amount of PUG completions.
Checking party chat shows that the altar was hit too early.

Doesn't count. Not allowed to rush to the altar when people want to DD out:)

k1ngp1n
11-24-2010, 11:16 AM
If you notice that all 12 slots are filled, a high amount of PUG completions.
Checking party chat shows that the altar was hit too early.

Doesn't count. Not allowed to rush to the altar when people want to DD out:)

People still DDoor? This amazes me. Recall or /death, its faster and more reliable.

Sirea
11-24-2010, 11:18 AM
Considering 12 deaths are automatic when you enter final part of shroud, yeah epic fail indeed. :rolleyes:

Sarcasm is dead on these forums...seriously people, get better dice :rolleyes: :p

mudfud
11-24-2010, 12:31 PM
Sarcasm is dead on these forums...seriously people, get better dice :rolleyes: :p
Iz not dead! Sarcasm got a heal

Doomcrew
11-24-2010, 12:35 PM
If you notice that all 12 slots are filled, a high amount of PUG completions.
Checking party chat shows that the altar was hit too early.

Doesn't count. Not allowed to rush to the altar when people want to DD out:)

Without seeing the lfm, if it were called a speed run, then you'd best be out before Arry dies.
If it were a normal run that went fast, a case might be made.

Cheers

Desteria
11-24-2010, 12:37 PM
dotn have SS's beacuse i dont bother to get them for our normal runs but we average 20 min runs, fastest with mostly pugs was 18 i belive, we often run shroud with 4 ish guildies and the rest pugs, not sure if that qualifies as a pug run to you.

yawumpus
11-24-2010, 04:47 PM
Without seeing the lfm, if it were called a speed run, then you'd best be out before Arry dies.
If it were a normal run that went fast, a case might be made.

Cheers

There were at least 4 players typing in chat that this was an issue. While I would expect this in a pug, I would also expect at least somebody to say "Nyah, Nyah, Nyah! Don't want the completion, don't join a speed run".

DropList
11-24-2010, 08:10 PM
26 min is def fast, but I would hardly say fastest. I use to regularly run 25 to 30 min runs as did about 20plus other people. D door is def not something ya do on a fast run ..ever:) Good job though on the time...it is good.

GregorianPL
11-25-2010, 05:04 AM
People still DDoor? This amazes me. Recall or /death, its faster and more reliable.

yeah someone hit altar too fast because we was beating harry on altar and thats why ppl died too... they was behind altar and my heals doesnt work on em and yeah in part5 12 deaths are immediately for everyone. I will try to beat that 26 minutes tomorrow im hope i will do that with PUG group

GregorianPL
11-25-2010, 05:06 AM
dotn have SS's beacuse i dont bother to get them for our normal runs but we average 20 min runs, fastest with mostly pugs was 18 i belive, we often run shroud with 4 ish guildies and the rest pugs, not sure if that qualifies as a pug run to you.
My definion of pug is total pug without anyone you knows, no friends, no guildies

moops
11-25-2010, 08:40 AM
As long as you had fun:)
Your times will get faster as more people learn the Raid :)

I also like that you had 2 bards, I hate that many people don't recognize that bards can have awesome DPS, but even more, that people don't realize that you don't need a ton of melee DPS in the shroud.

ToKu
11-25-2010, 08:45 AM
My fastest was around 25 minutes, I threw a digorno's pizza in the oven as it was starting, expecting to have to afk a few mins to pull it out and was finished with run when pizza was.

Harry P4 blades didnt even come close to anyone before he was dead.

I look back at that run with fond memories as I run through 40+ min pug shrouds now.

GregorianPL
11-25-2010, 02:20 PM
As long as you had fun:)
Your times will get faster as more people learn the Raid :)

I also like that you had 2 bards, I hate that many people don't recognize that bards can have awesome DPS, but even more, that people don't realize that you don't need a ton of melee DPS in the shroud.
Well... I can take bards because I know bards have good dps... but i dont really like a lot of casters for me 1 is optimal to set buffs/debuffs and hit harry with cold rays etc

SEMPER
11-25-2010, 02:24 PM
Well... I can take bards because I know bards have good dps... but i dont really like a lot of casters for me 1 is optimal to set buffs/debuffs and hit harry with cold rays etc

well hopefully you will realize casters can do good dps as well and it doesnt matter how many of them you have either ;)

moops
11-25-2010, 05:51 PM
Well... I can take bards because I know bards have good dps... but i dont really like a lot of casters for me 1 is optimal to set buffs/debuffs and hit harry with cold rays etc

Casters have some of the best DPS in the game but it is short termed but since part 4 is usually bout 2 mins in total as well as part 5, it does not matter--Ive had one rounders in part 4 with 6 casters & 2 Clerics. ..

This is something to think about, if you find your self taking more than 3 mins to fill a shroud LFm--fill it with whatever and go and then redo again in 20 mins if you are farming or move on to the next raid:)

GregorianPL
11-29-2010, 02:27 PM
ok i will try to make it with casters... im hope they help us to beat portals fast too

Lavek
11-29-2010, 05:36 PM
had a 11 man pug few days ago with 3 casters and 2 clerics in it...

everything went smooth
harry dropped down in 1 round

just shows you you dont need any special **** if ppl know their stuff...

Aeolwind
11-30-2010, 09:56 AM
had a 11 man pug few days ago with 3 casters and 2 clerics in it...

everything went smooth
harry dropped down in 1 round

just shows you you dont need any special **** if ppl know their stuff...

I think I was on that run with you Kalopsia, 1 of the casters & one of the rogues had never run the shroud before lol.

Lavek
11-30-2010, 12:35 PM
I think I was on that run with you Kalopsia, 1 of the casters & one of the rogues had never run the shroud before lol.

rly..there were more? :D

I was on Gataka that day...but hey...if there were more situations like that...just proves the point :)

Aeolwind
12-01-2010, 08:15 AM
rly..there were more? :D

I was on Gataka that day...but hey...if there were more situations like that...just proves the point :)

Pretty sure you were on Kalo, you were looking for stones...me and my buddies were going to trade you one to help out but we all pulled scales =P.