Are ya with me...

[Burtle]

I dunno bout you but I'm sick of crashing everytime (or just about everytime) I load into a zone..ie: Gianthold or Necro, or Sands... :mad:

I've done everything, Changed resolutions, updated vid drivers, uninstall/reinstall.... went standard res, went high res... still client crashing.. :eek:

it's frustrating... :mad:

I dunno what to do anymore..

[AMDarkwolf]

not just that but since one of the previous patches before u7, i get infini-loading screens, random crashes(all types, ALL area's now, used to be just GH or DS), and, the worse, total computer freeze ups.

Its a ddo related issue, doesn't happen with any other game or app, and only happens when ddo is 'active' (At first I thought this was a update issue when my antivirus tried to update or something, ran ddo one night with all firewalls, antiviruses, browsers, etc closed, and only DDO active. Still got freeze.)

Not a gpx issue either, might be related to it somehow, but its not a 'crappy' or faulty driver/component afaict.

[toughguyjoe]

You heard it here folks. DDO causes all computer problems, and all computer problems are caused by DDO.


I must just be lucky. I download things I shouldn't, leave my computer on for far too long, haven't updated drivers for long periods of time, use Vista, and in general sit here and smoke and drink in front of my computer.

I experience crashes. Not these IMMENSE number of them that are reported. Probably more like One or Two a week.

My advice? Smoke and drink in front of your computer.

[vVAnjilaVv]

Posted this yesterday to a similar type thread...hope it helps.....


http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=3414378#post3414378

[azrael4h]

DDO requires something a bit heftier than a pentium 2 and a nVidia 5600 running Win98SE. Try upgrading.

I've never crashed going into a zone, and most of my crashes can be traced to the nVidia 9300 chipset in my comp... which was known for being a problematic series of video chips. To the point that for the first time since I can remember, I will not be upgrading with a nVidia card after I bother to get around to upgrading.

[Spoprockel]

I frequently crash zoning into the desert, and i'm playing on a new pc (bought 4 months ago).

But only if i've been doing some quests before.

Maybe it also has something to do with alt-tabbing and looking up stuff in the wiki, i do that quite often too.

[Burtle]

DDO requires something a bit heftier than a pentium 2 and a nVidia 5600 running Win98SE. Try upgrading.

I've never crashed going into a zone, and most of my crashes can be traced to the nVidia 9300 chipset in my comp... which was known for being a problematic series of video chips. To the point that for the first time since I can remember, I will not be upgrading with a nVidia card after I bother to get around to upgrading.

Mine's a Pentium Intell Core duo (2) Nvidia 9800gt (1gb) 4gb ram. Window's XP pro. 500gb hard drive.. :D

My g/f has a similar build but has an AMD Ath and ATI card (not sure what spec) and it crashes on her from time to time as well..client side. :confused:

[SirAggravator]

Since update 5 came I've had crashing on zoning too. Usually after zoning into 5 or 6 different areas. I also see the ddoclient memory gradually increases over time.
One thing I've been told is dropping down from dx10 to dx9 stops it. From a quick test last night that seemed to work for me although I'd quite like to keep dx10.

[painindaguild]

I experience crashes. Not these IMMENSE number of them that are reported. Probably more like One or Two a week.

My advice? Smoke and drink in front of your computer.

I got exactly the same... sometimes i wake up and cant even move becus of a major crash. total system error... i think comp was loading gianthold wen i started chrashing....

[Pallol_One-Eye]

I personally never had the issue when I was an active VIP. I left the game for 12-14 months, came back as premium and did an entirely new download of the client.

Now, whenever I port into the Desert or Orchard I crash back to desktop. It has gotten to the point where I will warn my party, if grouped, that this is going to happen so they don't think I am bailing on them for < insert reason here>.

SO, the only thing that has changed on my PC is a new game client version.

Make you wonder, eh? :rolleyes:

[Burtle]

Since update 5 came I've had crashing on zoning too. Usually after zoning into 5 or 6 different areas. I also see the ddoclient memory gradually increases over time.
One thing I've been told is dropping down from dx10 to dx9 stops it. From a quick test last night that seemed to work for me although I'd quite like to keep dx10.

Ya I'm runnin DX9..xp won't allow for DX10

[TempestAlphaOmega]

Post machine specs to see if there is anything common between people having this issue.

I nor the other people who play from my house, experience these problems. I actually can't remember the last time one of the machines locked up or crashed to desktop loading into an area (or at any other point).

I have three machines that run DDO on a regular basis, one is an AMD the other two are Intel, one has ATI the other two nVidia, one runs DX9 another DX10 and the third DX11.

AV will be running in the background, sometimes play will occur in a window and alt tabbing out and back in happens as well.

I keep everything on the software side very up to date.

I often am not experiencing lag when others are complaining of it.

One thing I do see if after switching toons repeatedly (and I mean repeatedly) on longer gaming sessions the client will start to slow down (but not the same as lag) but this is fixed by a quick reboot.

Your issue could be something between DDO and a specific piece of hardware or it's driver.

[Ratnix]

I have only ever had 1 crash. It was back when I was running the game Fullscreen and was doing alt-tab to be able to navigate pages on my other monitor.

Since I have switched to windowed mode I have yet to have a problem.

Not saying that is your problem, but if you are doing the alt-tab thing while you are playing and getting crashes, maybe try switching to windowed mode for a couple of days to see if that stops it.

[Khanyth]

"crashed" only a handful of times in a year.

Not with ya, I guess

[flynnjsw]

I very rarely have this issue. I do get the extra lag when I do a lot of character swaps, and recently I have seen a bit more lag even when logging in the first time, but I am certainly not going to try to pin it all on Turbine.

[Jeromio]

I've also got zoning problems. When I enter the Desert, the client crashes. I think it began after update 5. Haven't got any problems with Gianthold area.

[Fetchi]

I know it's not my puter. I used to never crash before about update 6. Now, when I start switching through alts to check mail/auctions then jump in to ANY explorer area or quest, I'll crash.

I'll also crash when going from one large explorer to another, like gianthold to desert. It's getting very annoying.

[learst]

I'm playing on a 2 year old laptop (Intel Duo Core 2.0 GHz) and nVidia 8400 GS M on a wireless network. I played since early this year, and the number of times I've crashed while zoning is around 1-2 times. ;)

[Impaqt]

Audio driver seems to be the primary culprit when zone crashing. So many people overlook the audio driver....

[Vindicatus]

I can expect to experience several problems throughout the course of each game session, and most of them occur upon zoning into a new area. Sometimes, the game hangs on a loading screen but party members can hear me via voice chat, requiring a forced crash and game restart to resolve the issue. Occasionally, my character's ability to walk is disabled and he can only tumble or jump across a map; sometimes this can be fixed by zoning again. Often, my character's ability to interact with friendly/neutral NPC's and objects becomes disabled, his hireling's action bar disappears, quests cannot be tracked and damage and heal numbers disappear, and the ability to log off is disabled. This situation requires a forced game crash and restart to resolve.

Both updated and older video drivers have not resolved or lessened the occurrence of the aforementioned problems. Two friends who DDO with me do not experience these issues. Thank you for suggesting audio drivers, Impaqt. I'll look into this.

[Frebby]

The first time I crashed was after I bought Necro 4(the recent 50% off veterans day sale), while recalling from the orchard. Happened in one other place since then, I think its the last 1 or 2 patches that did it.

Although 2 crashes in a week either means nothing or almost nothing to me.

[My2Cents]

I would think the two biggest suspects on zoning would be audio/video drivers and disk swapping. Zoning is probably one of the areas where a lot of memory loading/unloading occurs. Noone has mentioned virtual memory (using disk space as memory) or page file corruption.

I'm not an expert on these on the latest OS's so I won't risk making a fool out of myself by misquoting the options you need to look at to check these out, but if everything else fails, I'd check these too. Disks can age over time and files can be corrupted, so what worked once may not still be working perfectly, especially as resource needs grow.

[redoubt]

You heard it here folks. DDO causes all computer problems, and all computer problems are caused by DDO.

.

Noone said that except you. He's also tried to fix stuff.

I've also experienced several locks and crashes since U7. Not once in the two years I've had my new comp has it crashed, until the update. True, that is not proof that DDO is causing the problems. But it does point in that direction since that is the only thing loaded on and that runs on that computer.

On the flip side, I know that sometimes weird stuff just happens.

[Burtle]

What in this thread is so wrong that I got a neg rep for...all I did was ask a question..I mean c'mon... :rolleyes:

[azrael4h]

Mine's a Pentium Intell Core duo (2) Nvidia 9800gt (1gb) 4gb ram. Window's XP pro. 500gb hard drive.. :D

My g/f has a similar build but has an AMD Ath and ATI card (not sure what spec) and it crashes on her from time to time as well..client side. :confused:

AMD Athalon II Quad core 3.2ghz, 8GB of DDR3, Win7, and a TB HDD. No crashes, and lag is largely gone since U7. And I've been making near daily bloodstone runs for a while, on two different characters, and otherwise been running around GH with the guild, so *shrug*. No guildies have reported any issues since U7 either, though one had a issue with the Mabar event. I never bothered with it.

However, I did play with a 2.1ghz dual core Intel GMA series 4 2GB DDR2 laptop... and had no issues with crashing at all. I replaced it before U5, and got my first serious lag from U5-6, but U7 has largely erased that, save when Mabar was going with the Dragon.


On the flip side, I know that sometimes weird stuff just happens.

Sometimes, **** happens, someone has to deal with it, and who're you gonna call?


I very rarely have this issue. I do get the extra lag when I do a lot of character swaps, and recently I have seen a bit more lag even when logging in the first time, but I am certainly not going to try to pin it all on Turbine.

I think there's a few pointers being left dangling; which means memory leak while swapping characters. I got enough RAM, and so little actual playing time, that I have no issues with it however. Even 16 hour weekend runs haven't had much problems.

[cyadra]

Mine crashes alot as well.

Atari 2600...only one U jack in back hooked up to my 1982 RCA TV. Sometimes my red button the joystick works sometimes it doesn't so I actually only get one swing in on each of my dual GS kopeshs. The phone jack I rammed into the thing is kind of testy, so I have to make sure my mom isn't going to use the phone when I play, otherwise I can't run the full delara series. Typing can be a pan since the key pad that I had to buy for the thing is missing its plastic alphabet cover on it, and I can never figure out the right letters. But when I do get stuck in a load in screen, I can either pull out the cartridge or just hit the reset. Now if I can only find a way through the labyrinth, with the blue bridge and get away from Grundel....I can get that chalice. Bats...hate em.

[Rodasch]

I occasionally crash when zoning into orchard. It's the only zone this happens to me in. I handle desert just fine and all the other zones so far. It seems to happen when I've been alt-tabbing out a lot to look at wikis and maps and such though so it could be tied to that somehow.

[Hakushi]

I think its the last 1 or 2 patches that did it.

It's getting worse with the last updates, but it's been there for way more than that. The first ever zoning crashes were when mod5 was released. (Yes, when the Orchard was new.) It used to be only to some specific zones, but for me, it's now any zoning that can crash my client, zoning house k seems to be the worse.

[Otherworld]

I crash in one and one place only: while moving from zawabi's refuge to the explorer.

This will only happen the first time (that day), any subsequent times I won't crash.

(Day being the timespan from one server reset to another)

[Astraghal]

Go into graphics options and change draw distances to medium.

There are 2 draw distance settings, so I'm not sure if it's one or both that fix it.

I turned both to medium when I was frequently experiencing the zoning crash and I haven't experienced it since.

We need to get this confirmed as a solution and stickied if it works for multiple people.

[werk]

I dunno bout you but I'm sick of crashing everytime (or just about everytime) I load into a zone..ie: Gianthold or Necro, or Sands... :mad:

I've done everything, Changed resolutions, updated vid drivers, uninstall/reinstall.... went standard res, went high res... still client crashing.. :eek:

it's frustrating... :mad:

I dunno what to do anymore..

I never crash.

Well, hardly ever... Sometimes after an update, before I flash my drivers, but I'm always able to resolve pretty quick.


If you are crashing...I'd say it is you.

[Lorichie]

I very rarely have this issue. I do get the extra lag when I do a lot of character swaps, and recently I have seen a bit more lag even when logging in the first time, but I am certainly not going to try to pin it all on Turbine.

This^^

R

[Hambo]

Posted this yesterday to a similar type thread...hope it helps.....


http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=3414378#post3414378 (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=3414378#post3414378)

A couple of other things to check...

1). At times I've started the game with Outlook (eMail) still running and had mail downloading while playing cause minor lag. Don't have other programs running. In fact, advanced players may want to create a seperate logon just to play DDO, so they can also remove drivers and software not needed to enjoy the game, like IM software and mp3 players... at least a third of what loads by default with Windows isn't needed when playing DDO and can be disabled for individual user accounts, freeing up a good amount of Ram.

2). Check your Antivirus scanner's schedule... Nothing lags a game more than having a virus scan start in the middle of the Shroud. Some AV software, like Microsoft Security Essentials (perfectly integrated into Windows XP and up, and it's free) work passively, scanning packets "on-the-fly" and scheduling complete scans when you want. Others (I'm looking at you, Norton) will start up a full scan any time, randomly. I run my full scans when I know I'll be asleep.

[Thrudh]

I crash almost everytime I load into the desert... That's the only place it happens for me.

[Thrudh]

I'm also building a new PC this week... It will be interesting to see if the problem occurs on a new build.

[sparty55]

My experience: I upgraded my computer and stopped crashing in the desert. Much more RAM and a better video card. But I traded problems - now since I run on ultra high graphics when I am two specific areas: the Subterrane and the gnoll quest in Meridia the video "hitches" meaning every 6 or 7 seconds there will be a pause for one second. But those are the only two areas where that happens, otherwise putting in more RAM and upgrading the video card seemed to stop the crashing when zoning in the desert.

[stainer]

What in this thread is so wrong that I got a neg rep for...all I did was ask a question..I mean c'mon... :rolleyes:

I hooked you up with a +1, bro.

[SirAggravator]

My experience: I upgraded my computer and stopped crashing in the desert. Much more RAM and a better video card. But I traded problems - now since I run on ultra high graphics when I am two specific areas: the Subterrane and the gnoll quest in Meridia the video "hitches" meaning every 6 or 7 seconds there will be a pause for one second. But those are the only two areas where that happens, otherwise putting in more RAM and upgrading the video card seemed to stop the crashing when zoning in the desert.

That one is a common issue and can be fixed by unchecking "Environmental Stencil Shadows" in the advanced gfx options.

[darksol23]

Audio driver seems to be the primary culprit when zone crashing. So many people overlook the audio driver....

What he said... I got rid of my SB with hardware EAX, and now use the the generic audio from the motherboard... No more zone crashes. (Of course that was after updating the drives from Creative, which didn't help)

[Aeolwind]

DDO requires something a bit heftier than a pentium 2 and a nVidia 5600 running Win98SE. Try upgrading.

I've never crashed going into a zone, and most of my crashes can be traced to the nVidia 9300 chipset in my comp... which was known for being a problematic series of video chips. To the point that for the first time since I can remember, I will not be upgrading with a nVidia card after I bother to get around to upgrading.

Custom Rig - Dual 9800's, 8 gigs of ram, Win7 Ultimate, 2.4ghz Dual Core - Crash on zone
Laptop - integrated graphics (Not nVidia), dual core 1.6ghz, 2 gigs of ram, XP x64 - Crashes on zone, generally same quantity of zones as my main rig, sometimes one before, sometimes 1 later.

I don't think it has much to do with rig type.

[Astraghal]

I only started crashing after an update, I can't remember which.

I got my computer 2 years ago and was running Crysis at over 40 fps.

This isn't a hardware problem, it's bad programming causing some inefficiency or critical error somewhere in the system, causing it to crash.

Pretty sure it's related to graphics and memory leak.

[Lorz]

My last 2 pcs over the last 4 years had this crashing when zoning in.
My new machine now about 3 months old...does not suffer from this.

[Thrudh]

My new machine now about 3 months old...does not suffer from this.

3 months old! You gimp... :)

Mine is brand new and in the box (wife is out of town... I think I'll drink and play tonight, and put it together tomorrow)

Although I'm dying to see what two 10k drive in Raid 0 gets me (yes I was too cheap to go SSD)

[Burtle]

I hooked you up with a +1, bro.
Ty sir :D