Which Adventure Pack would be most helpful/useful

[seragentjc]

atm im only a lvl 6 rogue and so far been gaining points with favor.

i was just wondering which adventure pack would be more useful for a rogue, like finding good armour from loots or good leveling.

[Dulcimerist]

Delera's might be near the top of my list for XP at your level and some interesting end-loot.

What kind of rogue are you running?

[Tsuarok]

Well... I'd pick up vale of twilight first. If you only plan on owning one pack, this is it. Great loot, some of the best in the game. Good experience in the levels where f2p players are xp starved. And really cheap for what it offers.

The only thing is, it's level 16ish, so you won't be using it for a while. But at your level, there are tons of f2p quests, some with decent loot. You probably don't need a low level pack, and you'll outgrow any loot you get at these levels anyway.

[seragentjc]

Its a true neutral human assassin build if that helps at all.

[Musouka]

Gianthold would be my suggestion. Lots of armor selection, and lots of good named items + 1 raid. Lots of experience to be farmed there, but it is a mid level pack. Ventilated Bracers come out of the raid, which give enhancement bonus, not competence, to Disable Device.

[Fishcatch22]

You can't really get to the endgame with just one adventure pack, sadly. For your level, Delera's tomb is excellent right now. After that you should move onto VON, Sands and then Gianthold. Tangleroot gorge is good as well.

[pharky]

essential packs to purchase if you are f2p:

1. Delera
Reason: Good early game xp(until lv 11) and named item Voice of the Master that gives 5% more XP

2. Vale of Twilight
Reason: Good endgame XP(slayers start from lv 12 i think and you can grind the 5 quest for XP until lv 20). Also, greensteel crafting, important for endgame damage.

3. Gianthold
Reason: Good midgame to near endgame XP


For f2p, you can get to lv 20 with just delera's and vale of twilight alone but you will miss out on a lot of good named items from other p2p packs that are almost essential for endgame.

[frznvimes]

Delera's is one of the better ones for that level, except that it's all against undead so you may have trouble unless you pick up a good or undead bane weapon.

[zztophat]

essential packs to purchase if you are f2p:

1. Delera
Reason: Good early game xp(until lv 11) and named item Voice of the Master that gives 5% more XP

2. Vale of Twilight
Reason: Good endgame XP(slayers start from lv 12 i think and you can grind the 5 quest for XP until lv 20). Also, greensteel crafting, important for endgame damage.

3. Gianthold
Reason: Good midgame to near endgame XP


For f2p, you can get to lv 20 with just delera's and vale of twilight alone but you will miss out on a lot of good named items from other p2p packs that are almost essential for endgame.

This.

But if you can really only get one, then vale. There is simply no other pack that will level you through such a large level range (12-20) and give such important loot.

Gianthold too if you can; it grants vast amounts of xp for the 10-14 range.

I recommend delera's for everyone. It's not always my first choice mainly because it provides levels that free content already does, while gianthold and vale will allow you to get to the higher levels. delera's has some great end rewards and the xp is pretty much unbeatable (level 6-8 in a few runs). It's a great place to put some levels on your new toons.

[Amber-Dawnn]

get the Inspired Quarter cheapest you can start at level 15 and if you do it right you can gain about 3 levels from it.

[DrNuegebauer]

Buy Vale first.

There's plenty of quests to help you get to level 15 - by which stage you'll be well and truly ready for the Vale.

Gianthold is horridly overrated and overpriced. The quests aren't sensational XP any more - but the extra HP from favor is nice.

[MajinSensei]

essential packs to purchase if you are f2p:

1. Delera
Reason: Good early game xp(until lv 11) and named item Voice of the Master that gives 5% more XP

2. Vale of Twilight
Reason: Good endgame XP(slayers start from lv 12 i think and you can grind the 5 quest for XP until lv 20). Also, greensteel crafting, important for endgame damage.

3. Gianthold
Reason: Good midgame to near endgame XP


For f2p, you can get to lv 20 with just delera's and vale of twilight alone but you will miss out on a lot of good named items from other p2p packs that are almost essential for endgame.

This too but reaver's refuge also offers great xp and the dragon touch armor

[vrobel]

You only need Vale of Twillight for lvl 20

[Attropos]

If you don't think you will spend money for turbine points, there is really only 1 choice for what to spend your 600 or so TP you get from 100 favor on each surver; Vale of Twilight.

For 650 points you get 4 quests, 3 raids, and 2 HUGE explorer's. Not to mention it contains the end game gear for most builds (nearly every build includes AT LEAST 2 shroud items).

If you really want to stay f2p, you will need end game packs, not early packs. I have played Delara's and GH both, and they are quite overrated. Sure, they have some nice features and solid xp, but at low levels you really don't need it, and F2P has plenty of midgame quests. If you still have points after Vale, you will either want Devils of Shav or Reaver's (depending on which you have points for). Both provide solid gear and fun quests.

Summary:
Vale first
Some end game pack later (not dreaming dark or IQ) second

[Gremmlynn]

Myself, I'd read some reviews and get whichever seems most fun.

[FlyingTurtle]

Don't buy anything unless you're (a) level-stuck and all xp has dried up OR (b) there's a 50-25% off sale.

[smokeyser]

Well... I'd pick up vale of twilight first. If you only plan on owning one pack, this is it.

I was about to agree when a question hit me... If you only own vale, how do you level up high enough to run those quests without sands and gianthold?

EDIT: I agree with FlyingTurtle. Level as much as you can without a pack and then see where it leaves you. And a 50% off sale would mean being able to get 2 packs rather than one, so that's a no-brainer.

[zztophat]

I was about to agree when a question hit me... If you only own vale, how do you level up high enough to run those quests without sands and gianthold?

EDIT: I agree with FlyingTurtle. Level as much as you can without a pack and then see where it leaves you. And a 50% off sale would mean being able to get 2 packs rather than one, so that's a no-brainer.

When I first started playing I was free to play, This was before any new F2P content was released. I went from 1-13 before I became VIP. Once I became VIP I got most of my levels from 13-18 in the vale, then IQ came out and I got the rest there for my first capped character.

Now with the new lords march quests and those 3 other higher level F2P quests you can get to 14 easy with just F2P, but you will have to xp farm some quests a lot.

[FaSo]

Vale, like others have said, you can get lots of xp(lvls 12(when slayers start)-20, you will see most Pugs start at 14-16) and you get one of the best raids in the game where you can get greensteel, and that is HUGE at end game.

Delaras is good for your lvl, the best infact, gives good loot for your lvl aswell

but if you have to chose one, i say vale

[Dulcimerist]

Don't buy anything unless you're (a) level-stuck and all xp has dried up OR (b) there's a 50-25% off sale.

+1 I'm f2p (but have bought TP during a big sale), and I never buy anything in the DDO store unless it's on sale. Yes, I'm a cheapskate, but this stretches my small amount of entertainment dollars much farther.

[bl4uwe]

As a free-to-play player, I really suggest not to spend any points on low level adventure packs
Save all your points, and buy the higher level ones first (level 14+)
Reason for that is very simple, the moment you are low level, there are so many quests that are free to play that give great xp and moderate loot, but the higher you go, the less F2P quests you will find. I think currently the highest level f2p quest is level 15 (could be wrong)
If ya ever wanne get to 20 as a first life toon, then you indeed should have more then enough with just the Vale, but ya never know that ya suddenly decide to TR a toon, and what will ya do then if ya spend points on low level packs and only bought the vale as higher level one.

My suggestion is the following adventure packs (in this order)
1 - Vale of Twilight
2 - Reavers Refuge
3 - Necro 4
4 - Gianthold
5 - Desert
6 - Vault of Night / Delera's
7 - IQ / Shavarath / Dreaming Dark
8 - Necro 1 - 2

This list is purely for leveling toons, when ya go for raiding at higher level, then ya might wanne pick Shavarath a little bit earlier and hold on with the refuge.
I know for an F2P player it will indeed take a while to get all those packs , but if ya are patient, farm for favor once in a while and only get the packs when they are on 20-50% sale, ya will get there eventually.

[seragentjc]

ok so i recently got points for the vale quest but seeing as im still lvl 6 i have a while to go to like lvl 12 atleast maybe it will go on sale then which is when i will buy it.

also i was talking to some other rogues on Khyber and they suggested reavers aswell as having vale. Dragontouched vestments aswell as icy raiments and greensteel. good idea?

[zztophat]

ok so i recently got points for the vale quest but seeing as im still lvl 6 i have a while to go to like lvl 12 atleast maybe it will go on sale then which is when i will buy it.

also i was talking to some other rogues on Khyber and they suggested reavers aswell as having vale. Dragontouched vestments aswell as icy raiments and greensteel. good idea?

Generally people go icy raiment or dragon touched. Most people I see wearing DT armor wear only that or, only wear and icy until they have the DT they want. DT is better than most of the armor in the game, however with vale you have access to the icy and several good raid armors so you won't be hurting for gear.

DT armor alone is a good enough reason to get reavers but... I wouldn't get it for that reason alone, especially for you since you will need somewhere to level from 18-20. Since vale will be you primary means of going from 14-18 the xp will start to run out by the time you start going in to the 18-20 range.

[DrNuegebauer]

ok so i recently got points for the vale quest but seeing as im still lvl 6 i have a while to go to like lvl 12 atleast maybe it will go on sale then which is when i will buy it.

also i was talking to some other rogues on Khyber and they suggested reavers aswell as having vale. Dragontouched vestments aswell as icy raiments and greensteel. good idea?

Yes.

But (as mentioned) you'll want Vale before Reavers.

just keep hanging out for the 25% off (or greater) sale on Vale and then snap it up - you'll love it!

If you want a list of 'best packs' to get, then I'd agree mostly with bl4uwe - except I'd put Sands ahead of GH - it has epic and therefore much better items.

[Arius]

This too but reaver's refuge also offers great xp and the dragon touch armor

Be careful now: purchasing the Reaver's Refuge AP alone is not enough to get the DT armor. You actually need FOUR adventure packs to get the DT armor: Reaver's Refuge (obviously), Gianthold, Demon Sands, and Necro IV. The latter three are required to get 3 of the 6 gems required for the Dragon-touched armor.


I agree with the majority: Vale. Hands-down it has the best value of all the picks: 3 raids, 5 adventures, 2 wilderness areas.

[Narmolanya]

I have to agree that Vale will be the most important one to get. I had three accounts prior to FTP and went premium. On one account I purchased everything and the other two I did not. It takes longer to level up with out Tangleroot, Deleras and Gianthold but it is easily done none the less.

Without the Vale however you will quickly fall behind without greensteal crafting and buying ingredients and blanks then crafting on a guild ship will be very expensive if you are buying from AH.

[kilagan800]

Get Delara's and Red Fens

Both have great loot and D's has nice endgame items. With Fens you can get extra bank space with house K quest favor and has great game loot. Just yesterday I picked up a tome +1 Chr, among other nice items.

[bl4uwe]

Be careful now: purchasing the Reaver's Refuge AP alone is not enough to get the DT armor. You actually need FOUR adventure packs to get the DT armor: Reaver's Refuge (obviously), Gianthold, Demon Sands, and Necro IV. The latter three are required to get 3 of the 6 gems required for the Dragon-touched armor.


I agree with the majority: Vale. Hands-down it has the best value of all the picks: 3 raids, 5 adventures, 2 wilderness areas.


That is actually an incorrect statement
You indeed need 3 gems, indeed you are correct that 1 drops in the desert, 1 in Gianthold and 1 in the Orchard, but the other 3 drop in Reavers Refuge itself, so ya can still collect 3 gems to be able to enter eerie forest, without having Gianthold, Necro4 or the Desert. Those arent needed to make a dragontouched.
The 4th gem drops in Aussircaex Valley, the 5th in Saomi Gardens and the 6th in Mount Reysalon. And knowing that those last 3 explorer areas are in fact in the Revers Refuge adventure pack, that means ya can easely collect 3 gems without having any other adventure pack and therefor can start frafting your dragontouched.

[Khanyth]

I did ftp until level 12, before U3 was released.

I got some TP and bought Sands, Gianthold, and the Vale.

Those are the bare bones essential packs.