View Full Version : Kukan-Do + Manyshot + Slayer Arrows
h4x0r1f1c
10-24-2010, 09:21 PM
I just made up this build I'm naming.. "Unbalanced", which fits in more ways than one.
1sorc,1ranger,18monk ELF
1) Drop down and Kukan-Do you, ranged, high DC.
2) Abundant Step to a good spot away from you.
3) Whip out their STR or CON damage bow.
4) Manyshot!
5) They have Slayer Arrows too.
6) They also have Improved Evasion.
7) Grasp the Earth Dragon (stun immune)
8) Monk Spell Resistance!
Instruction Notes:
At 1sorc take "Sorcerer Energy of the Dragonblooded I".
Then take 1ranger for Bow Strength.
18monk, using feats for getting Manyshot.
Kukan-Do: (DC = 10 + Charisma Modifier + your monk level)
That's a 28 DC minimum.
At level 20 you're an AA w/ Slayer Arrows.
Note: Please don't quote this post as the text is subject to change.
khaldan
10-24-2010, 09:23 PM
Kukan-Do: (DC = 10 + Charisma Modifier + your monk level)
That's a 28 DC minimum.
At level 20 you're an AA w/ Slayer Arrows.
You don't have a 30ish fort save on your WF sorc?
Really?
AyumiAmakusa
10-24-2010, 09:23 PM
You should definitely roll this up and shoot everyone in PvP.
h4x0r1f1c
10-24-2010, 09:28 PM
You don't have a 30ish fort save on your WF sorc?
Really?
I do, but they can boost their CHA up easy. Anyway, think of the squishies.
Not everyone has a high fort. Zen Archery and they're supposedly centered with longbows and shortbows.
You're chasing down this "ranger" to Dance him because you're a brave soul and he Abundant Steps away.
The master kiter, ect. Master ganker. The Unbalanced. Cool names but Turbine should nerf this possible build.
k1ngp1n
10-24-2010, 09:31 PM
I do, but they can boost their CHA up easy. Anyway, think of the squishies.
Not everyone has a high fort. Zen Archery and they're supposedly centered with longbows and shortbows.
You're chasing down this "ranger" to Dance him because you're a brave soul and he Abundant Steps away.
The master kiter, ect. Master ganker. The Unbalanced. Cool names but Turbine should nerf this possible build.
No nerfing is required. This build sucks for everything that matters in the game.
Legohaiden
10-24-2010, 09:34 PM
No nerfing is required. This build sucks for everything that matters in the game.
^ This
t0r012
10-24-2010, 09:36 PM
I do, but they can boost their CHA up easy. Anyway, think of the squishies.
Not everyone has a high fort. Zen Archery and they're supposedly centered with longbows and shortbows.
You're chasing down this "ranger" to Dance him because you're a brave soul and he Abundant Steps away.
The master kiter, ect. Master ganker. The Unbalanced. Cool names but Turbine should nerf this possible build.
make a build with 3 monk so you can grasp of the earth dragon and make youself immune to the stun and take the deflect arrows feat to help avoid the many shot.
Aranticus
10-24-2010, 09:38 PM
No nerfing is required. This build sucks for everything that matters in the game.
qft
t0r012
10-24-2010, 09:42 PM
You don't have a 30ish fort save on your WF sorc?
Really?
Oh an cow-can-kill-you is a will save , not a fort save.
add a pair of stunning wraps and that 28 minimum becomes a 38.
I just wanted to point that out. Its PvP so who gives a horses patutti but at least its on level.
khaldan
10-24-2010, 09:46 PM
A copy of this build that shows how hilariously bad it is:
Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.7.0 BETA
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)
Killdispel
Level 20 Lawful Good Elf Male
(1 Fighter \ 18 Monk \ 1 Ranger)
Hit Points: 306
Spell Points: 145
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 20
Will: 16
Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(34 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 14 21
Dexterity 18 22
Constitution 13 15
Intelligence 8 10
Wisdom 14 18
Charisma 12 14
Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 14
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 19
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 20
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 20
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 20
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 20
Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 8 21
Bluff 1 2
Concentration 5 19
Diplomacy 1 2
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 1 2
Heal 2 4
Hide 4 6
Intimidate 1 2
Jump 2 9
Listen 2 6
Move Silently 4 6
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 0
Search -1 2
Spot 2 6
Swim 2 5
Tumble n/a n/a
Use Magic Device 3 8
Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist
Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery
Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Arcane Prodigy
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
Level 4 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Construct
Level 5 (Monk)
Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Luck of Heroes
Level 7 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Level 8 (Monk)
Level 9 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Rapid Shot
Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Manyshot
Level 11 (Monk)
Level 12 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot
Level 13 (Monk)
Level 14 (Monk)
Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
Level 16 (Monk)
Level 17 (Monk)
Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Level 19 (Monk)
Level 20 (Monk)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack II
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage II
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery III
Enhancement: Shintao Monk I
Enhancement: Shintao Monk II
Enhancement: Shintao Monk III
Enhancement: Adept of Flame
Enhancement: Master of Bonfires
Enhancement: Adept of Rain
Enhancement: Master of the Sea
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Improved Jump I
Enhancement: Improved Jump II
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Good point about the stunning wraps btw, forgot about them. So, 45ish DC save or take manyshot to the face and die.
For the build, well, +6 con item/toughness item/GS hp item/GFL gets us above 450 and into instamurder range. I'm sure it could be made better, but hey.
I'd suggest anyone on sarlona who doesn't like a elf monk they have to spend the 1mil plat and LR+3 into this, just for the heck of it.
stille_nacht
10-24-2010, 09:47 PM
qft
quantum field theory?(joke)
Legohaiden
10-24-2010, 09:48 PM
If you intentionally spec your character to maximize your "PvP Potential"
you need to follow these simple instructions.
Click Start menu
-Click All Programs
-Select your DDO folder
-Click on Unistall Wizard
-Click "Yes" on the Popup
Jakarr
10-24-2010, 09:49 PM
I just made up this build I'm naming.. "Unbalanced", which fits in more ways than one.
1sorc,1ranger,18monk ELF
1) Drop down and Kukan-Do you, ranged, high DC.
2) Abundant Step to a good spot away from you.
3) Whip out their STR or CON damage bow.
4) Manyshot!
5) They have Slayer Arrows too.
6) They also have Improved Evasion.
7) Grasp the Earth Dragon (immune to stun)
8) Monk Spell Resistance!
Instruction Notes:
At 1sorc take "Sorcerer Energy of the Dragonblooded I".
Then take 1ranger for Bow Strength.
18monk, using feats for getting Manyshot.
Kukan-Do: (DC = 10 + Charisma Modifier + your monk level)
That's a 28 DC minimum.
At level 20 you're an AA w/ Slayer Arrows.
Note: Please don't quote this post as the text is subject to change.
I'll just make a TR'd Wizard take the passed life feat take all force enh load up on potency and force crit wait till your not looking and blow a dozen holes into you....I win.
Winning Pvp in DDO is like arguing on the Internet....everyone losses.
AyumiAmakusa
10-24-2010, 09:50 PM
I, for one, want to see Hax make this character. I'm sure it will be entertaining.
h4x0r1f1c
10-24-2010, 09:51 PM
snip
You didn't even use the right levels and you put 1ftr instead of 1sorc.
Just because you can't make it work doesn't mean others couldn't.
Cernunan
10-24-2010, 09:53 PM
If you intentionally spec your character to maximize your "PvP Potential"
you need to follow these simple instructions.
Click Start menu
-Click All Programs
-Select your DDO folder
-Click on Unistall Wizard
-Click "Yes" on the Popup
Sound advice for all new players.
For older players like myself with 2 accounts of 20 characters each, who have played for over 4 years now and need a new distraction from burn-out bordom, well, still sound advice.
h4x0r1f1c
10-24-2010, 09:56 PM
I, for one, want to see Hax make this character. I'm sure it will be entertaining.
I wouldn't want to play it. I'd hate leveling it even more.
If I wanted to Slayer Arrow somebody I'd roll a regular 20ranger and give up at lvl 18.
stille_nacht
10-24-2010, 09:58 PM
If you intentionally spec your character to maximize your "PvP Potential"
you need to follow these simple instructions.
Click Start menu
-Click All Programs
-Select your DDO folder
-Click on Unistall Wizard
-Click "Yes" on the Popup
bleh variations of this has been posted too many times on to many threads, its like the "x amount of people dislike this video because of (something related to video)" comments from youtube
Legohaiden
10-24-2010, 09:58 PM
I wouldn't want to play it. I'd hate leveling it even more.
If I wanted to Slayer Arrow somebody I'd roll a regular 20ranger and give up at lvl 18.
im just waiting for you to "give up" on the forums.... :rolleyes:
khaldan
10-24-2010, 09:59 PM
You didn't even use the right levels and you put 1ftr instead of 1sorc.
Just because you can't make it work doesn't mean others couldn't.
I dropped the sorc for fighter to get in PL sorc. I mean, it was designed for your sorc.
Ha HA Ha :D.. always good for a laugh h4xor.
unbalance for what? A WF named "Dispel" killer, and...... what else?
Actually monk AA seems kinda interesting with the new bow deal. You'd be pulling some wacky stunts at any rate. Might be stretching the enhancement points. I'd give it an experimental try at least, maybe as a solo guy.
khaldan
10-24-2010, 10:21 PM
Purgatory's Bowmoe build is better for any content than a 18/1/1 would be.
With Change to Zen Archery = allowing short bows and long bows to be ki weapons
I intoduce to you BoeMoe
Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.5.1
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)
BoeMoe
Level 20 Lawful Good Elf Male
(2 Fighter \ 12 Monk \ 6 Ranger)
Hit Points: 286
Spell Points: 180
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 23
Will: 12
Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(34 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 13 16
Dexterity 20 31
Constitution 12 14
Intelligence 11 13
Wisdom 12 15
Charisma 8 10
Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 5 33
Bluff -1 0
Concentration 5 27
Diplomacy -1 0
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle -1 0
Heal 1 2
Hide 9 19
Intimidate -1 0
Jump 5 18
Listen 1 4
Move Silently 9 19
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 0 1
Search 0 3
Spot 5 25
Swim 1 4
Tumble n/a 13
Use Magic Device 1 11
Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Level 2 (Ranger)
Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot
Level 4 (Ranger)
Level 5 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Level 7 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Level 8 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Weapon Finesse
Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Zen Archery
Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Combat Expertise
Level 11 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
Level 12 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot
Level 13 (Monk)
Level 14 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
Level 16 (Monk)
Level 17 (Monk)
Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Level 19 (Monk)
Level 20 (Monk)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack II
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage II
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy II
Enhancement: Touch of Death
Enhancement: Porous Soul
Enhancement: All-Consuming Flame
Enhancement: Winter's Touch
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Master of Thunder
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Monk Jump I
Enhancement: Monk Jump II
Enhancement: Monk Tumble I
Enhancement: Monk Tumble II
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Full AA build along with enough TWF to not suck.
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