Red Fens Set Tests (could really use a math wiz)

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Ok so Ive decided to test the fens sets and whether they stack with potency/lore items.

Ive chosen scorching ray for the spell to be cast namely because I get 3 rays per cast.

Amount of times casting 334 for a total of 1002 rays (sufficient?) per test

First question I would like to answer/clarify is whether the bonus' to crit are cumulative I.E. 9% enhance + 9% major lore = 18% crit or = 17% crit (9% of of a 100 + 9% out of 91%)

1002 rays should be around 170.34 crits if its 17% rate
1002 rays should be around 180.35 crits if its 18% rate


at the same time I would like to test the shamans set to see if it stacks with potency.

if potency and shamans don't stack i should see 7.6 - 45.6
if potency and shamans stack I should see 8.8 - 52.8
(4-24)+(50%Lore+40%enhance+30%shamans)

Question does turbine round up? or truncate their numbers?

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Phase 2
confirming Elders set stacks with Major lore

1002 rays should be around 200.4 crits if its 20% rate
1002 rays should be around 210.42 crits if its 21% rate

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First are these numbers remotely correct (I do understand if they truncate that my crit percents are off I opted to round)

Second am I correct in assuming if I see a 7 or above a 46 on my scorching ray that the shamans set definitely stacks? (on a non crit)

any feedback is appreciated anyone who wishes to help follow the below assumptions and feel free to post your results and specify which situation of the 3 you are testing for

NO empower/maximize, full set of fire crit and fire damage enhancements otherwise your numbers will not match up No other crit(tod set) or fire damage items on besides sup potency (ie no clickies)

questions? comments ?
Ill be doing this early next week appreciate all the feedback I can get!

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Question does turbine round up? or truncate their numbers?


On spell damage, the standard is to always round down. For instance, I just tested some of the pale master stuff with lesser death aura. At 25% boost, 2.5 and 3.75 were returned as 2 and 3, while any 4s rolled did come out as 5s. This will affect your average damage numbers, so they aren't always as clear cut as one could hope.

Of course, this makes the number crunching crowd a little nutzy. :)

As far as crit % goes, I actually haven't paid too much attention to it. Among other things, I don't know if scorching ray will crit on a per ray or per cast basis, so that may play merry hob with your numbers.

For a rundown of spell damage math, try here (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=196673), although it's an older thread. There were changes to the magic system this last patch, so don't take anything as written in stone.

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yea I can confirm scorching ray crits on individual rays. ok so time to fix some of the math thx.. hope it applies to crits as well.

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numbers map to make sure the crit formula is right (yea... I dont trust nobodys work :P)

I should see these spell numbers at the respective with potency/enhance/crit..


PLEASE CHECK THIS WORK.. I know im assuming on the formula but hey its not mine but no one seemed to dispute it so Im gonna check it.

Google spreadsheet link..
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AkyLP5L-XfuOdEo0ckl5ODRPRE5sYUJVLWNQeGZkRXc&hl=en

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ran a once over on the numbers.. looks like the following is the case

Eardweller / Elders set / Shamans set

Do Not stack

the formula of (number *(Maximize+Empower+1)*(Potency item+Fire Potency Enhancements+1)*(Crit Fire enhancements+Major Fire lore item+1))

appears to be correct

That is all.

herder out.