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UrbanPyro
10-08-2010, 03:32 AM
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Mister_Peace
10-08-2010, 03:36 AM
Intimitanks don't usually shield bash.

TheDearLeader
10-08-2010, 03:38 AM
Heh. Don't forget that at least one of the most *epic* would be Epic Ward of Undeath, since its specifically meant to be a Basher. Although think there's a good Shield of Legend for that...

Anyway, I'd say any basher build would still be High-Str, High-Con. Maybe Kensai II/Barb 6/Rogue 2 or something like that. Rages, Power Surges, Evasion (even if saves are kinda lackluster), grants proficiency with all shield types. Unlocks all of Fighter Haste Boost, if I recall.

And, of course, assuming it would be an intimitank as well, you'd want Improved Shield Bash, both the Blocking DR Feats, and would probably want a fair share of guard items so your atrocious Shield-bash DPS is offset by anything hitting you taking said guard items' collective damage.

But.. those are thoughts, not a build >.> So maybe someone will be more ambitious than I.

Rineth
10-08-2010, 03:38 AM
Intimitanks don't usually shield bash.

No one usually shield bashes.

TheDearLeader
10-08-2010, 03:41 AM
No one usually shield bashes.

I like to shield bash in PvP >.> Get on my Fighter. Its funny to Trip someone with Shield Bash. At least, it is to me.

Hmmm....

Leads me to wonder if there are any Shields with +# Vertigo on them.. excuse me for a moment. :)

CaptainCameo
10-08-2010, 03:42 AM
I'm not even sure how to do that. I know there are some feats for shields but I've never actually though about using shield bash as a main attack.

Would weapon focus: bludgeon work?

TheDearLeader
10-08-2010, 03:58 AM
I'm not even sure how to do that. I know there are some feats for shields but I've never actually though about using shield bash as a main attack.

Would weapon focus: bludgeon work?

Probably Weapon Focus and Improved Crit : Bludgeon.

Not to mention all the other Kensei stuff like Weapon Specialization and such. Is there a shield kensai? I'm thinking no...

Edit: Checked, nope, no Shield Kensai, or other enhancements to shields like there are other weapons.

Mister_Peace
10-08-2010, 04:11 AM
Shields sometimes have Ghost Touch on them, which only affects bashing.

Talon_Moonshadow
10-08-2010, 07:43 AM
I'm turning mine into an intimitank.


And I currently think the best use for shield bashing is on an intimitank.....who has a high AC first, and focuses on shieldbashing as a minor secondary trait.


High Str is the only way to increase sheidlbashing damage.....and you only get half. And few shields give you any bonus to damage at all....and it is very minor.

Plus the attack looks very slow.

I do however think any Ftr based intimitank should take Improved Shield Bash though....cause it makes sense to me to do damage to them while your turtling up...even if it is small damage.



(can you believe they actually nerfed shield bashing a while back?!)

Talon_Moonshadow
10-08-2010, 07:48 AM
I'm not even sure how to do that. I know there are some feats for shields but I've never actually though about using shield bash as a main attack.

Would weapon focus: bludgeon work?

it doesn't work. :(

There really is no good way to beef it up.

Power Attack does work on it, but to me that defeats the defensive purpose. (and I consider it a nerf)

It's an off-hand attack so only half Str bonus gets used.

Plus from shield has no effect. (but I think some named shields might do more damage....like from the Hound raid)

Some feats can be used with a shiled bash animation.....bt not sure if this is actualy advantageious or not.



Best use for it is to do damage while shieldblocking. Shieldblocking can get seom great DR. So it is kinda col to turtle up and still do some damage back to the bad guy.

unbongwah
10-08-2010, 09:54 AM
Here's a lazy (and no doubt terrible) first attempt at a shield-focused build: dwarf ftr 20 SD intimitank with max shield-blocking DR + Imp Shield Bash. The idea is to grab as much aggro as possible using Intim & greataxe w/PA, then switch to DAxe + tower shield, turtle up, and shield-bash away. Sacrificed some DPS to crank up Intim & HPs, slight boost to saves. EDIT: might want to take the Shield Mastery feats sooner to maximize the gimpiness - err, I mean, the awesome!

Take a look and tear away!


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.5.1
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Bashy McBasherson
Level 20 Lawful Good Dwarf Female
(20 Fighter)
Hit Points: 422
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 7
Will: 9

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 16 24
Dexterity 11 13
Constitution 18 22
Intelligence 11 13
Wisdom 8 10
Charisma 12 14

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting


Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Bash


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 5 (Fighter)


Level 6 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 7 (Fighter)


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality


Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Combat Expertise


Level 11 (Fighter)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Fighter)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Shield Mastery


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Intimidate


Level 16 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Shield Mastery


Level 17 (Fighter)


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Bullheaded
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 19 (Fighter)


Level 20 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Superior Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Fighter Weapon Alacrity
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II
Enhancement: Dwarven Shield Mastery I
Enhancement: Dwarven Shield Mastery II
Enhancement: Dwarven Shield Mastery III
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense II
Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender I
Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender II
Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender III
Enhancement: Fighter Dwarven Waraxe Specialization I
Enhancement: Fighter Dwarven Waraxe Specialization II
Enhancement: Fighter Greataxe Specialization I
Enhancement: Fighter Greataxe Specialization II
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate I
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate II
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate III
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate IV
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III

Imitating
10-08-2010, 10:08 AM
Shieldblocking can get seom great DR. So it is kinda col to turtle up and still do some damage back to the bad guy.

According to this (http://ddowiki.com/page/Shield_Bash): The shield's Damage Reduction bonus is negated while Shield bashing.

Ayseifn
10-08-2010, 10:14 AM
If you're really set on doing this I'd suggest going paladin as you can smite/divine sacrifice with shieldbash.

Darkrok
10-08-2010, 10:18 AM
According to this (http://ddowiki.com/page/Shield_Bash): The shield's Damage Reduction bonus is negated while Shield bashing.

Improved Shield Bash (http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Feat:Improved_Shield_Bash)

Memnir
10-08-2010, 10:22 AM
I'd suggest going either Dwarf or WF for a bashing build, since you can both Trip and Stunning Blow using bash - and the tactics line would certainly help. I had planned one a long, long time ago but never rolled it up. If I can find the build, I'll post it - but it's likely too out of date to be of much use.

Imitating
10-08-2010, 10:23 AM
I'm still not sure that Improved Shield Bash allows to keep DR bonus. DDO Wiki says (http://ddowiki.com/page/Improved_Shield_Bash) it doesn't. If I were going to create a shield bashing tank I'd check it three times before I start...