Are you kidding me?

[articwarrior]

Really? price increases for all classes/races in DDO store as well as half-Orc costing 1300 PTs and half-elf costing 1200?! Are you serious?! I love half-orcs and how well they play but honestly, 1300 turbine points?!

[elujin]

its the new dps toy i am sure it drops to the outher races levels after a while

[articwarrior]

lol it's half-orc, it'll never go down

[elujin]

mebey when they have half um... gaints ?

[articwarrior]

lol not even then, maybe when pit fiends come out ;)

[bfmurf201]

people need to really relax and yes turbine is nice enough to give free points and you can pretty much grind for free to buy alot of the packs . So stop being cheap people and destroying the game . the devs need to get paid and the game needs money to run . if you want a game that you buy once and thats it , get a ps3 game

[articwarrior]

I understand where you're coming from, but honestly I'm not grinding favor for 600 TPs just to get +2 str plus enhancements. I see that the devs need money but by creating new mods every update they make alot more money than a over priced race would

[Autolycus]

Agree with the OP. The new prices and raising the old prices seems excessive. Especially since we've heard the stories about how successful the move to the "micro-transaction" system has been.

[bfmurf201]

but really dude its the way they have things set up . they think about it more than we do . they play as well as develop . i think ddo is on there mind more than ours . so why question every action they make , when you dont even know what there next plan is . they just gave a free pack out isnt that enough for free to play. if i was a company trying to make money i would of done the same thing

[ragwa1]

but really dude its the way they have things set up . they think about it more than we do . they play as well as develop . i think ddo is on there mind more than ours . so why question every action they make , when you dont even know what there next plan is . they just gave a free pack out isnt that enough for free to play. if i was a company trying to make money i would of done the same thing

There's a new free pack?

Did I miss something?

[articwarrior]

imo I don't really like the items coming from the new pack also it's not a free PACK it's a free quest (12) the pack comes with the devil assault pack

the half-Orc prices are extensively over priced, it isn't corporate geneious to over price things so people won't buy them

[pSINNa]

New races : free to vip's.

Vip costs me (in Australian Dollars) roughly 3 dollars per week.

Problem solved.

(and yeh, for all the new content being released, the new races, the new developments coming in the future, the richness of the existing quests/raids/races/game in general it's more then worth it, in fact, it's cheap).

Coit out~

[articwarrior]

Vip costs me (in Australian Dollars) roughly 3 dollars per week.


=$159 a year

American is alot more expensive it's about $150-170 dollars American

P.S. I'm Canadian so it's American pricing except more for me

[Snowdancer]

Twelve Euro in a german cinema (about 14 dollars?) for two hours entertainment (15 min. commercials included). Compared to this, I find 10 dollars monthly for ddo quite reasonable.
Though I have to admit that exchange rate €/Dollar benefits me.

[SneakThief]

They put the points on sale $50 for 6900 often enough ... twice in the last two months ... Thats $.007 USD/pt .... that make Half-Orcs something like $9.43, $5.57 less than a month of VIP. If thats such a bad deal ... dont buy it and move along. Or feel to grind level 1 toons over and over and over until you can save up enough TP to buy Half-Orcs on sale for Christmas or something.

[Samir_Bennal]

The ludicrous pricing for the new races was to be expected. Everybody, especially the devs, have been hyping the +2 str of the orc so much that it comes across as the main focus of update 7. So why not put an insane pricing on it as there will be tons of purchases on release date. What doesn't make sense is to raise prices of existing races and classes that have been around for a while and don't have as much appeal currently as the new stuff. This will cause great unrest amongst the player base. With the specials for the points packages always being for the most expensive package and no incentives given for those that can only afford smaller packages, it's not like there is a shortage of income for the game. If there is a shortage of income, increasing prices and not offering specials for lower points packages as often as the highest price package will not increase income.

[AyumiAmakusa]

Well how ELSE are they making their money?? From the +1 weapons?? I think not. And in a world where the value of money constantly decreases (You could buy new books for 50 cents back then!! <----As an example) it was bound to increase.

I really hate the price increases but I accept it because I understand why it had to increase. We can complain all we want but the reality is people will still buy it, people will still buy points, and newer players wouldn't even know that the prices used to be lower.

[7-day_Trial_Monkey]

The ludicrous pricing for the new races was to be expected. Everybody, especially the devs, have been hyping the +2 str of the orc so much that it comes across as the main focus of update 7. So why not put an insane pricing on it as there will be tons of purchases on release date. What doesn't make sense is to raise prices of existing races and classes that have been around for a while and don't have as much appeal currently as the new stuff. This will cause great unrest amongst the player base. With the specials for the points packages always being for the most expensive package and no incentives given for those that can only afford smaller packages, it's not like there is a shortage of income for the game. If there is a shortage of income, increasing prices and not offering specials for lower points packages as often as the highest price package will not increase income.

Great unrest? It's a one time payment of a pitifully small amount of money. And it's optional. :rolleyes:

[Boromirs]

It's not the pricing in absolute terms that amuses me. It's the pricing in relative terms that makes me laugh the most.

But 1300 is a bit excessive... I was about to buy it outright but now I have to consider my options. Go out and buy some more TP cards or go VIP for a couple months ...hrmm .

[Vellrad]

Twelve Euro in a german cinema (about 14 dollars?) for two hours entertainment (15 min. commercials included). Compared to this, I find 10 dollars monthly for ddo quite reasonable.
Though I have to admit that exchange rate €/Dollar benefits me.

15-20 PLN in Poland for cinema ticket (around 4,25-5 euro). And I think I would prefer to take my girlfriend to cinema, or have 2 romantic dinners (including wine and candles :)) for 60PLN than buying better meele race (but maybe its beacause I play casters :D).

$13 for 1/2 orc is almost as much as vip for 1 month. Maybe its a hidden VIP advertisment?
I'm happy that Archmage PrE is free, so I don't have to buy anything in this update, and still got 100% useful content (at least useful for me).

[SneakThief]

The ludicrous pricing for the new races was to be expected. Everybody, especially the devs, have been hyping the +2 str of the orc so much that it comes across as the main focus of update 7. So why not put an insane pricing on it as there will be tons of purchases on release date.
Nine bucks and change is ludicrous pricing? You must not play games much at all. Most new games are $60+ at release. I'd say per dollar you'd be getting a LOT more play time out of buying half-orc. Even if you didnt manage to get a point bundle discount, 13 bucks is still a heck of deal per play hour. Think of it this way .... even at $13, thats $2 less than the VIP is paying for a month of play time, and you would get to keep playing for $0 ...

[nayozz]

dudes... races are totally optional...
if you do not want to buy them, then do not buy them ^^

like for example the huge collector bag bind on character... i used to buy one that got trashed with the quiver when i erased and redone a char, so i usually buy a 10000 plat medium bag and done...

i admit i bought every race and class back when i started liking and paying the game... nowadays i like mostly arcane warforged... so my advice is this: if you are a free to play... take a 1 month vip, maybe when there is a double tp offer... and TRY EVERYTHING, then you decide what you really like, and what you can avoid purchasing (if/when) you become a premium player.

the game is played cause is fun, but not all people like to play a class , the melee or caster gameplay...
just try and decide.

race drow can be unlocked in 1 week of casual game while you try anyway free classes and races to see which you like the most.

race warforged got pumped up in cost... the only race that can self heal if arcane...
lucky enough with update 7 wizzy pale get perma undead state and so can self heal (little problem has to wait lvl 12 would like a lvl 6 form...) till lvl 9-10 you can still use serious potions... again at 12 you can just self heal as a warforge, have negative level immunity and other immunity as a warforge and more than a wf:D even with the free human class for example.

class monk: i bought it 1 year ago, my monk is still lvl 4 :P
you either gonna be monk centric or either do not bother with it at all...
still nice for a niche use of 2 lvls evasion +2 feat +2saves +1dc wis +2stat boost to use runes levers
(BUT weapon and encumbrance penalty to stay in stance)
(lose an easy diplo bluff intimi boost, openlock with only 4 points spents, full umd possibility +1d6sneak)

class fvs: ok... telling you can unlock it is true but not fair ^^ at least you wont unlock so easy as the drow... (and veteran status), i like very much this class as the ultimate sorceror substitute to cleanse all dungeon with casting, except sometimes a divine power scroll + cheap weapon.... prolly i wont buy it without a nice tier 1 pre but that it is just me :P i had more fun with a human favored soul 2 lvls rogue, than a cleric-monk cleric- monk fvs

half elf: flavor of the month, the dilettante bonus is not appealing enough to me

half orc: yeah prepare not to get grouped... if you do not bring the uber chest diplo ability :D
click lfm barbarian/fighter/paladin
a: you half orc ?
b: no sry
a: oh pity, no chest diplo !
*b got expelled from the group*

ok just kidding :D

[wolflordnexus]

Am I the only one who noticed that Drow the unlock in a day race is now more expensive than WF the rulers of everything DDO race. that's my only problem with the change really it just doesn't make any sense.

[krtkoo]

ROFL - are you kidding? You don´t need to buy it if you don´t want to. If you are ftp use ftp content – just FYI: nothing is for free and 15 USD / month (as VIP) is not so much compared to the amount of entertainment you get while playing this game.

15 USD = 12,5 € = 4 coffes after lunch ;) or 2 tickets to cinema or 1 ticket with popcorn + coke.

[JohnWarlock]

And like most people said, the prices are turbine to post.

Me personally I think it's ridiculous that they raise the prices in certain races/classes just to add 2 new over priced classes.

Want to leave the two new races at the same price, fine, they are powerful in themselves, but I don't get why change the other ones.

At least if monks weren't getting half nerfed/improved.
And if drow where getting an update, then yes I can see those 2 getting upped in price.

Or WF since they are buy only.

But all classes for no reason except that the new classes are being coined more expensive. It's a not so fun lil joke.

[Grizzie]

Me personally I think it's ridiculous that they raise the prices in certain races/classes just to add 2 new over priced classes.

Want to leave the two new races at the same price, fine, they are powerful in themselves, but I don't get why change the other ones.

At least if monks weren't getting half nerfed/improved.
And if drow where getting an update, then yes I can see those 2 getting upped in price.

Or WF since they are buy only.

But all classes for no reason except that the new classes are being coined more expensive. It's a not so fun lil joke.

I guess thats inflation !!

[dunklezhan]

I just bought WF and FVS at the current prices - I've held off till now because I always thought they were overpriced but conceivably I might want to play one day, and I'm certainly not paying nearly a thousand points for either of them. I doubt I'll buy either halfblood race though - I don't have the character slots and I'm more interested in classes than races.

And the classes I'm interested in don't really include fighter or barb which is where the Horc has its real synergies. I haven't really looked into Helf.

[Raveolution]

So stop being cheap people and destroying the game . the devs need to get paid and tarrant needs his new car . if you want a game that you buy once and thats it , get a ps3 game
Message updated ;)

[vVAnjilaVv]

Problem with the $50 dollar packs is I and I am sure many other players do not have $50 at one time to drop on points. I really wish they would make the smaller point bundles at least a little more alluring with some kind of like bonuses altho I would understand it not being as large a ratio as the $50 dollar bonus points..

I usually go for my 1750 tome and just make 2000 favor a goal for all my new alts tho, and prioritize on that so I generally have a decent amount of free points beforehand....still tho, the price increase for the older classes seems nothing more than a way to make the prices of the newer classes seem fair.....which I think is a cheap shady tactic.

[Inkblack]

... I'm happy that Archmage PrE is free, ...

If I was Turbine, making Premium enhancements would be a great idea.

In fact, that's what you could replace epic with. Epic enhancments, available if you meet the requirements (via being 20, past life feats, xp beyond 20, etc) plus being either VIP or paying TP for each one. Start with a limited number that can be taken, but then continue to expand them as an extension of the end game. Especially if you required past lives for some of them, it encourages TR's (more money), which encourages experience elixirs (more money), and so on.

I'm premium, so I'd hate it, but it would be a money maker.

[Tarrant]

Please keep all feedback on the announcement thread, thanks!