Switching from Dark to Light w/ U7 items..thoughts?

[Resilian]

Curious as to what I should do once U7 hits. ToD will be nerfed, but not in a severely detrimental way. Light Monks get some nice new toys. U7 item list seems to bring about new options as far as gearing goes as well.

I'm wondering if this setup would be good for a WF Fire Stance TR Light Monk:


NOTE: Currently level 14, and will be LRing so feat order isn't a concern.



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Zaeken Aelthura
Level 20 Lawful Neutral Warforged Male
(20 Monk)
Hit Points: 347
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 16
Will: 16

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
(34 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Strength 16 23 23
Dexterity 16 17 17
Constitution 16 18 20
Intelligence 8 8 8
Wisdom 13 14 16
Charisma 6 6 6

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7

Feat/Enhancement
Modified Skills
Skills (Level 20)
Balance 25
Bluff -2
Concentration 45
Diplomacy -2
Disable Device n/a
Haggle -2
Heal 3
Hide 3
Intimidate -2
Jump 29
Listen 3
Move Silently 3
Open Lock n/a
Perform n/a
Repair -1
Search -1
Spot 3
Swim 6
Tumble 4
Use Magic Device n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Disciple of the Fist
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Monk)


Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Luck of Heroes
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 7 (Monk)


Level 8 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 9 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Monk)


Level 11 (Monk)


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 13 (Monk)


Level 14 (Monk)


Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Monk)


Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow


Level 19 (Monk)


Level 20 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Monk Serenity
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise III
Enhancement: Fists of Iron
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery III
Enhancement: Shintao Monk I
Enhancement: Shintao Monk II
Enhancement: Shintao Monk III
Enhancement: Adept of Rock
Enhancement: Grandmaster of Mountains
Enhancement: Master of Stone
Enhancement: Adept of Flame
Enhancement: Grandmaster of the Sun
Enhancement: Master of Bonfires
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Monk Concentration I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack III
Enhancement: Warforged Tactics I
Enhancement: Warforged Tactics II




Gear Setup:
Main DPS Wraps: +4 Vicious Handwraps of GEOB <--big reason I plan to go Light..these w/ Shintao 3 + ToD set seems like some nice DPS to beef up light a bit.
Head: Min 2 GS Helm
Armor: Upgraded Quorforged Docent
Goggles: Epic Goggles of Time-Sensing / Tharne's Goggles (Which would be best here?)
Neck: Shintao Cord
Wrist: Epic Jidz-Tet'ka
Hands: Epic Spectral Gloves
Back: Cape of Night / Wretched Twilight / Epic Cape of the Roc (Which would be best here?)
Feet: Madstone Boots / GS Guard boots?
Waist: Knost's Belt
Trinket: Bloodstone / LotD
Ring1: Encrusted Ring w/ Shocking Burst
Ring2: Shintao Ring w/ Holy Burst

I don't currently have any epics, but I do have the non-epics that I am planning to upgrade if and when I get the tokens.

[voodoogroves]

Maybe I'm seeing something odd ... do you have 3 CON items? I'd swizzle gear a bit to make sure there isn't as much overlap on one stat.

[Resilian]

Maybe I'm seeing something odd ... do you have 3 CON items? I'd swizzle gear a bit to make sure there isn't as much overlap on one stat.

The other benefits of the items were what I was looking at not the con, but you did make me realize that quorforged + vornes is kinda silly. Reasoned I wanted Vornes was the frenzied set bonus though..is the set bonus worth slotting belt over or should I get something else?

[Resilian]

Any other thoughts from anyone? This can't be perfect I'm not that good lol..

[Jamma]

Light path monks don't normally use madstone boots. They block your finishers, which you'll need to learn how to complete, unlike dark monks. I don't believe you would benefit from both Tharne's goggles and Wretched Twilight, as the effects shouldn't stack (could be wrong though).

Vorne's belt goes with the Gnawed ring, not the encrusted ring (which is Knost's belt). The former is +2 exc to will/reflex saves, the latter is +2 to hit (stacking). Nothing wrong with having both sets, but you'll want to coordinate your wardrobe appropriately. In most instances I would think Nost/encrusted (frenzied berserker) > Vorne/Gnawed (occult slayer)

Stunning blow is probably a waste, as you'll have two reliable stuns already. But its only costing you 22 hp.

I'd swap out the quorforged for a healing amp DT vestment. The 10hp you lose is blown away by all the extra hp your healing ki finisher would produce (with just what you listed, you'll average 8hp more eaching healing ki).

Looks like you'll be doing a lot of epic. Void 4 strike is awesome there. I'd try to fit it in. Its a lot of AP though.

[Resilian]

Light path monks don't normally use madstone boots. They block your finishers, which you'll need to learn how to complete, unlike dark monks.

Pretty much picked madstone because I don't really know anything better..maybe some GS guard boots?



I don't believe you would benefit from both Tharne's goggles and Wretched Twilight, as the effects shouldn't stack (could be wrong though).

Ya, my goggles and cloak slots are up for debate between a couple dif pieces. Preferably Epic Goggles of Time-Sensing and maybe Epic Cape of the Roc or Wretched to make up for the lost SA bonus from the goggles.



Vorne's belt goes with the Gnawed ring, not the encrusted ring (which is Knost's belt). The former is +2 exc to will/reflex saves, the latter is +2 to hit (stacking). Nothing wrong with having both sets, but you'll want to coordinate your wardrobe appropriately. In most instances I would think Nost/encrusted (frenzied berserker) > Vorne/Gnawed (occult slayer)

That's my bad I got my piece names mixed up. I meant to list Knost's. I was going for Frenzied Berserker stacking with Shintao.



Stunning blow is probably a waste, as you'll have two reliable stuns already. But its only costing you 22 hp.

That's debatable because having 3 stuns instead of 2 is just as nice especially when you need to do some stun CC in epic content.



I'd swap out the quorforged for a healing amp DT vestment. The 10hp you lose is blown away by all the extra hp your healing ki finisher would produce (with just what you listed, you'll average 8hp more eaching healing ki).

Well I'll also be losing the benefits of the Min 2 GS helm since if I use DT I'll need to have my Minos on. Is that still worth it?



Looks like you'll be doing a lot of epic. Void 4 strike is awesome there. I'd try to fit it in. Its a lot of AP though.

Way too much AP for a WF especially. And getting the stances unlocked would require some heavier tomes that I don't have yet

Thanks for the critique! I guess the build must look alright because so far I've only had comments on gear choices. :D