Rename tokens on transfer

[SirAggravator]

Hello Turbine/ Tolero/ Tarrant,

Question on this. Before the transfers were announced I made the mistake of creating a character on Ghallanda with the same name as a character who will be transferred in October.
e.g. "Aggerson" on Ghallanda exists. "Aggerson" from Europe will become "Aggerson-1"

With the name clash i'd like to keep my european name the same ideally.

Is it possible we can get rename tokens for all characters on the account too so we can juggle the names around?
At this time it looks like the only way to get the name back is to delete the existing character (which would be a shame losing all that favour etc.)
or pay for a premium service (http://www.ddo.com/component/content/article/462-character-rename-faq) name change ($9.95 was free in eu servers).

Thanks in Advance

[DrenglisEU]

/Signed!

[Natashaelle]

I actually tested this last week on Lammania, by transferring two characters with identical names from two different US servers.

In this case, the rename token is automatically generated on the second (or more) toon with the identical name.

You just type /changename XXXXX (where XXXXX is the new name you want to use), and your name is changed instantly.

You can ONLY change your first name, not the second part of it, whether surname, title, joke, or whatever you've put there. I have no idea if GMs will help people change that, in cases where the first and second part of your name may be thematically or otherwise linked together as a whole. I will have this problem on one of my own toons btw :(

[SirAggravator]

ty Natashaelle, that part I understand, maybe I didn't explain it well.
In this case lets say "Natashaelle" already exists on Ghallanda and created by you.

What I was asking about was if you can get a rename token on ""Natashaelle" (Ghallanda)
so that when the transfer happens in October your european "Natashaelle" can keep the original name instead of having to pick a new name.
One way to do that would be to give rename tokens to all characters in your account.

[Natashaelle]

ty Natashaelle, that part I understand, maybe I didn't explain it well.
In this case lets say "Natashaelle" already exists on Ghallanda and created by you.

What I was asking about was if you can get a rename token on ""Natashaelle" (Ghallanda)
so that when the transfer happens in October your european "Natashaelle" can keep the original name instead of having to pick a new name.
One way to do that would be to give rename tokens to all characters in your account.

Ah OK, I see what you're getting at there, and yes that's better explained thanx :)

Yes, I can see that as being potentially of benefit for some people having moved to US several months ago or earlier, even though those of us either having moved recently or waiting til Oct. 25th to do so are unlikely to have such issues.

Good idea mate ! :)

[Crystalizer]

ty Natashaelle, that part I understand, maybe I didn't explain it well.
In this case lets say "Natashaelle" already exists on Ghallanda and created by you.

What I was asking about was if you can get a rename token on ""Natashaelle" (Ghallanda)
so that when the transfer happens in October your european "Natashaelle" can keep the original name instead of having to pick a new name.
One way to do that would be to give rename tokens to all characters in your account.hiya agg, i dont think they will drop a rename token to each living character of your account, but see the problem with renaming tokens since you need in fact 2 ones, one to modify the current character on the server and another one to get your name back on your auto renamed EU imported character.

one solution to me would me to automatically give to both characters a renaming token if on your account you have a conflit between these 2 character names. fast & safe to implement, bind tokens so no risk of any abuse. and would be nice too when you transfer characters from one server to another one ty :)

[Dragavon]

I have made chars on Ghallanda with all the names I remember to block the names so I can rename all my chars to "firstname" Keeper, so everyone will see I am from Urup.

The Dragavon that currently resides on Ghallanda will be deleted, and the old Dragavon from Keeper will then be renamed Dragavon Keeper ;)

[BazzaAlpine]

I would have thought a balanced solution to this would be to make the tokens per account instead of per character. I believe they can already do this with items? Just give your account x number of tokens for each transferred character.

[Natashaelle]

I would have thought a balanced solution to this would be to make the tokens per account instead of per character. I believe they can already do this with items? Just give your account x number of tokens for each transferred character.

You cannot access a renaming token via your inventory...

[tenalafel]

It's a question I asked about a month ago and that has been answered.

It has been stated ( by no less than Tolero ) , albeit hidden in the numerous page of the Welcoem Letter thread, that every time a character transfered from Europe is renamed in character-1, -2, -x said character will get a rename token to use the /changename command.

Linkee to the post : http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=3220765&postcount=143

[SirAggravator]

Linkee to the post : http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=3220765&postcount=143

Thanks for this. So Tolero's suggestion is to delete the placeholder character first.
My question is whether we can get a rename token for all characters on the account (including the placeholder characters). I've been playing this character for over a month now and will still be playing until 25th Oct.
I'd definitely prefer to keep the name on my european character for sentimental reasons:)

[Natashaelle]

Thanks for this. So Tolero's suggestion is to delete the placeholder character first.

That should be unnecessary, it's just cautious advice as far as I can see -- because exceptional buggy behaviour can always happen, and it's possible someone could just be very unlucky and not get their rename token on the transferred toon.

*However* there may be cases where somebody else had that same character name on the other Euro server, either Keeper or Devourer, so that having the placeholder on live during the transfer, and deleting it after, will be the only way to ensure that you are in control of the toon name. :)

[SirAggravator]

That should be unnecessary, it's just cautious advice as far as I can see -- because exceptional buggy behaviour can always happen, and it's possible someone could just be very unlucky and not get their rename token on the transferred toon.

*However* there may be cases where somebody else had that same character name on the other Euro server, either Keeper or Devourer, so that having the placeholder on live during the transfer, and deleting it after, will be the only way to ensure that you are in control of the toon name. :)

:confused: I didn't understand the part about not deleting. If I don't delete my (Ghallanda) placeholder then I can't re-use that name. This assumes the placeholder doesn't get a rename token.

You brought up another good point I also did not delete my Devourer placeholders :) But at least these will get rename tokens.

[Natashaelle]

:confused: I didn't understand the part about not deleting. If I don't delete my (Ghallanda) placeholder then I can't re-use that name. This assumes the placeholder doesn't get a rename token.

OK, I *know* this whole business is confusing -- probably the best advice I can give you is to test certain transfer scenarios by creating some "placeholder toons" on the Lammania server, and then using the character copy tool to copy characters with similar names from divers US Live servers ;) (beware -- you're only allowed *five* transfers, so proceed with care if you follow the suggestion)

Basically though --

if you have toons "Aggravator" on Keeper, Devourer, and Ghallanda, toons "Aggravator-1" "Aggravator-2" each having rename tokens will be created during the transfer, if you don't delete the Ghallanda "Aggravator" first.

if you delete "Aggravator" from Ghallanda prior to transfer, then the toons from Keeper and Devourer will be named "Aggravator" and "Aggravator-1" -- HOWEVER the new "Aggravator" will have NO rename token, so that if the placeholder from Devourer gets the name rather than your highby from Keeper, you will then need to delete the one from Devourer to rename the Keeper one as desired.

if you want to keep both of your "Aggravator" toons from Keeper and Devourer, but wish to choose which gets to be "Aggravator" and which "Aggravator-1" (or whatever else :p), then keep the current Ghallanda placeholder, and delete it after transfer.

if you want to keep all three "Aggravator" toons, but wish to rename with complete freedom, then pay $$$ to get a rename for your Ghalanda "Aggravator" after the transfer.

etc, there's a whole series of similarly complex scenarios could be analysed :)

Nevertheless, to gain maximum amount of control over your toon names, create as many placeholders as your character limit can provide, and do not delete them til after the transfer. Yes, this will clog up the servers with junk data ; yes it's a PITA -- made more complex by virtue of there being not two, but three servers merged into one... those wanting re-transfers after that point to Thelanis or wherever are heading for an even tighter bottleneck of name-claiming DOOoooOOOooMmmm :D

Hope that helps ... :/

[SirAggravator]

if you want to keep all three "Aggravator" toons, but wish to rename with complete freedom, then pay $$$ to get a rename for your Ghalanda "Aggravator" after the transfer.

Ahh you explained what I already described above :) This is what I knew and the question I had was can we get rename tokens for the pre-exisiting Ghallanda characters too when the account is merged.
I seem to be wording things in a way that is confusing people (apart from a few others) but makes sense to me :D