AA Speed Test - Volunteers needed

[Glenalth]

I need your help to compile a list of bow attack speeds at different BAB, feat selections, and with different gear setups. These tests will also probe a little bit into finding how many arrow shots are lost to latency.

It will only take a few minutes of your time and this info could benefit us all.

Not every AA is a Ranger, so I'm posting a link to this in the Elf forum.

Testing procedure...

Find an open area with no obstructions, a private instance is best to avoid outside influences.
Load up 100 arrows that do not have the returning property.

Reporting procedure...

Character Name: not required if you want to stay anonymous, but helps sort things out
Class/Race: in case there are any hidden modifiers here
BAB: your current BAB during the test
Weapon Used: longbow/shortbow/composite/Green Steel/named bow/etc
Gear: list any gear that may affect ranged attack speed
Feats/Enhancements: list any character based bonuses that affect ranged attack speed (ie Rapidshot or capstone for you rangers)
Spells: any buffs/debuffs that you have active (haste, madstone, divine power)
Time Recorded: use stopwatch to time how long it takes to empty out the 100 arrows. Time from the initial click to the out of ammo/reload dialog.
Number of animations: manually count the cycles of firing animation.
Latency: record your latency/loss at beginning and end of test
Notes: anything that might have affected your results, tides, phase of the moon, etc..


Multiple test cycles are encouraged and multiple gear setups are also wanted if you can spare the time to run extra cycles.

If you feel I'm missing something in the testing procedure or data collected, please let me know.

[Glenalth]

Reserved for reporting

[SiliconShadow]

I would probably say if you have xfire/fraps or another ingame cam record it if for a more accurate time, I am going to do a bench run on a sorcerer and then agian with the quiver of alacrity, I will test an elven ranger after I reTR back for you and I will do the videos per level.

[Glenalth]

Sounds excellent.

[SiliconShadow]

lv14 Sorcerer
bab 7
latency 110ms
packet loss 0.1% (times of 2.47 I had 0% loss)
arrows fired 500 (5 x 100 arrow tests)
2.48, 2.48, 2.47, 2.48, 2.47 (time in minutes.seconds)
= 0.6 Arrows per second

lv14 Sorcerer
bab 7
latency 110ms
packet loss 0.0%
arrows fired 500 (5 x 100 arrow tests)
Quiver of alacrity +10% ranged alacrity
2.36, 2.36, 2.36, 2.36, 2.36 (time in minutes.seconds)
= 0.64 Arrows per second

Actual increase of a quiver of alacrity for a base character = 7.14%

It will take me two weeks to start posting but I will edit this post and a following with my results as I start to gain them.

[SiliconShadow]

Reserved for findings.

[LupusVai]

Tested on sorrowdusk so no one else around
Elven Ranger level 20. Using Silver Bow. Latency about 110 to 120. No Haste.

Capstone: 94sec for 100 arrows = 1.064 APS
Capstone + Quiver: 92sec for 100 arrows = 1.087 APS
Capstone + Deepwood sniper set: 93sec for 100 arrows = 1.075APS
Capstone + Quiver + Deepwood Sniper Set: 87sec for 100 arrows = 1.149 APS

[Glenalth]

Thank you for your time.

Once I get a few more data points I'll start consolidating and charting the results.

[SiliconShadow]

Tested on sorrowdusk so no one else around
Elven Ranger level 20. Using Silver Bow. Latency about 110 to 120. No Haste.

Capstone: 94sec for 100 arrows = 1.064 APS
Capstone + Quiver: 92sec for 100 arrows = 1.087 APS
Capstone + Deepwood sniper set: 93sec for 100 arrows = 1.075APS
Capstone + Quiver + Deepwood Sniper Set: 87sec for 100 arrows = 1.149 APS

So from this we can see

With capstone:
Quiver = 2.1% increase
tod set (dws) = 1.1% increase
Combined quiver and tod set (dws) = 7.5%
(Numbers to 1dp)

I would like to see this with haste as well and all combinations again, can you provide this data please Lupus because it shows something unexpected, what perhaps is being seen is a speed breakpoint and that is why people think things don't stack or have lower than quoted values.

[Glenalth]

It is interesting.

[Glenalth]

Some numbers from a good connection, later tonight the same tests from awful connection.

Character Name: Isindolph
Class/Race: Ranger 14/Fighter 6 Warforged
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: Silver Longbow with House D Arrows
Gear: N/A
Feats/Enhancements: Rapid Shot
Spells: Guild +1 STR, +2 ATTK
Time Recorded: 1:47.28
Number of animations: 103
Latency: 110-115
Notes: N/A

Character Name: Isindolph
Class/Race: Ranger 14/Fighter 6 Warforged
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: Silver Longbow with House D Arrows
Gear: Docent of Quickening
Feats/Enhancements: Rapid Shot
Spells: Guild +1 STR, +2 ATTK
Time Recorded: 1:39.58
Number of animations: 101
Latency: 110-115
Notes: N/A

Character Name: Isindolph
Class/Race: Ranger 14/Fighter 6 Warforged
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: Silver Longbow with House D Arrows
Gear: Docent of Quickening + Arcane Archer ToD Set
Feats/Enhancements: Rapid Shot
Spells: Guild +1 STR, +2 ATTK
Time Recorded: 1:36.16
Number of animations: 102
Latency: 110-115
Notes: N/A

Character Name: Isindolph
Class/Race: Ranger 14/Fighter 6 Warforged
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: Silver Longbow with House D Arrows
Gear: Arcane Archer ToD Set
Feats/Enhancements: Rapid Shot
Spells: Guild +1 STR, +2 ATTK
Time Recorded: 1:39.56
Number of animations: 101
Latency: 110-115
Notes: N/A

Character Name: Preston
Class/Race: Ranger 17 AA
BAB: 17
Weapon Used: Silver Longbow with House D Arrows
Gear: N/A
Feats/Enhancements: Rapid Shot
Spells: Guild +1 STR, XP, +2 CHA, 3 Dragons, Dhakani
Time Recorded: 1:50.92
Number of animations: 101
Latency: 95-100
Notes: N/A

Character Name: Preston
Class/Race: Ranger 17 AA
BAB: 17
Weapon Used: Silver Longbow with House D Arrows
Gear: Quiver of Alacrity
Feats/Enhancements: Rapid Shot
Spells: Guild +1 STR, XP, +2 CHA, 3 Dragons, Dhakani
Time Recorded: 1:47.50
Number of animations: 103
Latency: 95-100
Notes: N/A

[Glenalth]

I still have a remarkably barren and lonely spreadsheet and not enough data to have more than one test for any particular situation.

A reminder that number of firing animations is also needed, not just arrow counting. Every arrow that gets eaten by latency could be throwing off the numbers 1% each time. I'm getting up to 10-15 lost shots per 100 on high latency connections, but the animation speed matches with what I "should" be getting based on previous testing on a good connection.

Tests from characters that are not Arcane Archers are also appreciated.

[Maxelcat]

Ill see what i can scare up this weekend for you.

[DustTheWind]

I recommend using the attack dummy on the air ships. They stay put and let you know if your shot was a hit or was lost by the server. However some times there is a bit of time lag between the time the shot was fired and when it registers so it can be hard to some times determine if a shot is lost still. I found it a great way to test crit rates as well.

I was testing my shots per sec a while ago and I remembered before my capstone it was about 0.98 arrows/sec and afterward it was maybe 1.1 arrows/sec which would be a multiplier of about 1.12 or an increase of about 12% which does seem short of the 25% stated in the capstone. I should re-run those again some time. no quiver or any other speed enhancers were used. I was pure ranger. Pretty nice computer but its a laptop. Cable connection is pretty good. Cant remember exactly how many arrows but was at least a set of 100 per test.

[Glenalth]

The dummy adds in some more factors such as arrows expended that don't make it to target. If you can count how many firing animations and how many hits+misses at the same time, that would be good information to have, but outside the scope of the test.

[Glenalth]

Still looking for more data.

[SiliconShadow]

Still levelling sorry need a lot of exp 14/20 so far and going.

[Requiro]

Still looking for more data.

My tests:

Class/Race: Elf Ranger 14 AA
BAB: 14
Weapon Used: Silver Longbow with 100 Arrows
Gear: None
Feats/Enhancements: Rapid Shot
Spells: Some Guild Spells
Time Recorded: 2:00:81.
Number of animations: 102
Latency: 119-123
Notes: N/A

Class/Race: Elf Ranger 14 AA
BAB: 14
Weapon Used: Bow of the Element (Air) with 100 Arrows
Gear: None
Feats/Enhancements: Rapid Shot
Spells: Some Guild Spells
Time Recorded: 1:59.82
Number of animations: 101
Latency: 123-126
Notes: N/A

Class/Race: Drow Wizard 7 / Rogue 1
BAB: 3
Weapon Used: Silver Longbow (no proficient) with 100 Arrows
Gear: None
Feats/Enhancements: None
Spells: None
Time Recorded: 3:12.05
Number of animations: 103
Latency: 121-120
Notes: N/A

Class/Race: Drow Wizard 7 / Rogue 1
BAB: 3
Weapon Used: Shortbow with 100 Arrows
Gear: None
Feats/Enhancements: None
Spells: Haste
Time Recorded: 2:38.52
Number of animations: 102
Latency: 120-121
Notes: N/A

Class/Race: Drow Wizard 11
BAB: 5
Weapon Used: Giant’s Roar (no proficiency) with 100 House D Arrows
Gear: None
Feats/Enhancements: None
Spells: Lots of Guild spells
Time Recorded: 2:57.52
Number of animations: 101
Latency: 119-117
Notes: N/A

Class/Race: Drow Wizard 11
BAB: 5
Weapon Used: Giant’s Roar (no proficiency) with 100 Arrows
Gear: None
Feats/Enhancements: None
Spells: Lots of Guild and Haste
Time Recorded: 2:28.99
Number of animations: 101
Latency: 118-120
Notes: N/A

Class/Race: Drow Wizard 11
BAB: 5
Weapon Used: Composite Shortbow (no proficiency) with 100 Arrows
Gear: None
Feats/Enhancements: None
Spells: Lots of Guild and Haste, Heroism, Shield, Blur ect.
Time Recorded: 2:28.72
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 118-119
Notes: N/A

Class/Race: Human Fighter 4
BAB: 4
Weapon Used: +1 starter Shortbow with 100 Arrows
Gear: None
Feats/Enhancements: Rapid Shot, Rapid reload, Quick Draw
Spells: None
Time Recorded: 2:39.91
Number of animations: 103
Latency: 120-121
Notes: This one is create just for this test.

Class/Race: Human Fighter 4
BAB: 4
Weapon Used: +1 starter Longbow with 100 Arrows
Gear: None
Feats/Enhancements: Rapid Shot, Rapid reload, Quick Draw
Spells: None
Time Recorded: 2:39.45
Number of animations: 104
Latency: 119-121
Notes: This one is create just for this test.

[Glenalth]

Thank you very much.

[frznvimes]

Class/Race: level 6 elf ranger aa
BAB: +6
Weapon Used: silver longbow, basic arrows
Gear: butt naked (no quiver)
Feats/Enhancements: rapid shot
Spells: unbuffed
Time Recorded: A: 2:24.0 B: 2:23.7 C: 2:22.7
Number of animations: A: 101 B: 100 C: 100
Latency: A: 103/106 B:107/103 C: 103/111

ran 3 times (a, b, and c). Animation matched up with the rate arrows disappeared from inventory except for the last dozen or so arrows of the first test. For the first test I had some arrows sitting around in my inventory that got loaded (but I didn't fire any), and for the next two I made sure to put them in unused quivers.

[NinjaCereal]

Okay, here's what I have so far:

Test 1:

Character Name: Lrel Jayden
Class/Race: Elf level 20 Arcane Archer
BAB: +20
Weapon Used: Green Steel Longbow of Lightning
Gear: Deepwood Sniper set
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone, rapidshot
Spells: none
Time Recorded: 1m, 33.20s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: start-66.5ms/0.0% finish-51.8/00%
Notes: I was standing on a fallen in pillar on the Isle of Forgotten Dreams.

Test 2:

Character Name: Lrel Jayden
Class/Race: Elf level 20 Arcane Archer
BAB: +20
Weapon Used: Green Steel Longbow of Lightning
Gear: Deepwood Sniper set
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone, rapidshot
Spells: none
Time Recorded: 1m, 33.56s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: start-69.5ms/0.0% finish-53.4/0.0%
Notes: Same location, just to confirm that the first test was correct

Test 3:

Character Name: Lrel Jayden
Class/Race: Elf level 20 Arcane Archer
BAB: +20
Weapon Used: Green Steel Longbow of Lightning
Gear: Deepwood Sniper set
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone, rapidshot, manyshot
Spells: none
Time Recorded: 35.09s
Number of animations: 38
Latency: start-49.6ms/0.0% finish-53.5/0.0%
Notes: Same location as the first 2, but I hit manyshot after 10 arrows had been fired.
Not really a good speed test, I just wanted to see what happened

Test 4:

Character Name: Lrel Jayden
Class/Race: Elf level 20 Arcane Archer
BAB: +20
Weapon Used: Green Steel Longbow of Lightning
Gear: none
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone, rapidshot
Spells: none
Time Recorded: 1m, 35.00s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: start-50.5ms/0.0% finish-48.0/0.0%
Notes: Same location, took off the deepwood set

Took an average of 93.38 seconds to fire 100 arrows with the deepwood set on.

No gear or spells: average 1.02 arrows per second.
Deepwood set: average 1.07 arrows per second.
Deepwood set + Manyshot: 2.85 arrows per second.

Working on a test with the haste spell at the moment.

[Zansobar]

Any analysis of repeater rate of fire under different haste conditions?

[Glenalth]

Any analysis of repeater rate of fire under different haste conditions?

Outside the scope of this test, but I'm sure there are people interested in such numbers.

[Zansobar]

Outside the scope of this test, but I'm sure there are people interested in such numbers.

It's important to be able to be comprehensive in the range attack speed department. There are other detailed analyses of melee speeds already (of the new system) but I can't find more than a cursory speed test on repeaters.

From what I've seen so far manyshot is still fastest rate of fire for the 20 secs it is on, but repeater rof is fastest overall average (120 shots/minute with the two feats), but I don't know if those are confirmed numbers...and haven't seen any repeater tests with haste quiver or haste spell...would be nice to finally see how each attack mode stacks up to each other. However oddly enough the new melee system has normalized the attack speeds of thf and twf at least at base 20 bab...twf pulls ahead slightly with high haste, though unarmed attacks are slightly ahead of twf with max haste.

[Emili]

It's important to be able to be comprehensive in the range attack speed department. There are other detailed analyses of melee speeds already (of the new system) but I can't find more than a cursory speed test on repeaters.

From what I've seen so far manyshot is still fastest rate of fire for the 20 secs it is on, but repeater rof is fastest overall average (120 shots/minute with the two feats), but I don't know if those are confirmed numbers...and haven't seen any repeater tests with haste quiver or haste spell...would be nice to finally see how each attack mode stacks up to each other. However oddly enough the new melee system has normalized the attack speeds of thf and twf at least at base 20 bab...twf pulls ahead slightly with high haste, though unarmed attacks are slightly ahead of twf with max haste.
As far as I know the rof has not changed for ranged at all since the cap was increased to 20.

[Hailia]

Can we get someone with a Ranger Capstone to test with the AA set. Then test with Quiver and AA set off. Then test with both the AA set and Quiver. This is what we really need tested.

The Capstone and AA set are Competence bonuses so they should not stack.

Capstone should stack with Quiver.

AA set should stack with Quiver.

DwS set should not stack with Quiver. Both are Enhancement bouses. Hmmmmmm.

[Hailia]

Capstone + Quiver + Deepwood Sniper Set: 87sec for 100 arrows = 1.149 APS

Hmmmm this would make me think that the DwS set is NOT an enhancement bonus. The Quiver and DwS set should not stack if they are truely both enhancement bonuses. Perhaps so long as these enhancement bonuses are different (Quiver - 10%) / (DwS -5%) they do indeed stack. Still not sure. But the proof is there above. Either that or the Quiver is like an Exceptional bonus. Hmmmmmmm.

[Loromir]

I volunteer to receive.

[Glenalth]

More data is always appreciated.

[Mjoll]

I don't have a stopwatch so it's best to assume that, for these tests, there is some margin of error.



Tests without haste...

Character Name: Mjoll
Class/Race: Ranger 20/Elf
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: masterwork composite longbow + masterwork arrows
Gear: -
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone + Rapid Shot
Spells: -
Time Recorded: 93s (maybe 94s)
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 150

Character Name: Mjoll
Class/Race: Ranger 20/Elf
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: masterwork composite longbow + masterwork arrows
Gear: Quiver of Alacrity
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone + Rapid Shot
Spells: -
Time Recorded: 89s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 150

Character Name: Mjoll
Class/Race: Ranger 20/Elf
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: masterwork composite longbow + masterwork arrows
Gear: Black Dragonhide Armor
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone + Rapid Shot
Spells: -
Time Recorded: 89s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 150

Character Name: Mjoll
Class/Race: Ranger 20/Elf
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: masterwork composite longbow + masterwork arrows
Gear: Quiver of Alacrity + Black Dragonhide Armor
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone + Rapid Shot
Spells: -
Time Recorded: 89s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 150

Character Name: Mjoll
Class/Race: Ranger 20/Elf
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: masterwork composite longbow + masterwork arrows
Gear: Arcane Archer set
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone + Rapid Shot
Spells: -
Time Recorded: 89s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 150

Character Name: Mjoll
Class/Race: Ranger 20/Elf
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: masterwork composite longbow + masterwork arrows
Gear: Arcane Archer set + Quiver of Alacrity
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone + Rapid Shot
Spells: -
Time Recorded: 85s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 150

Character Name: Mjoll
Class/Race: Ranger 20/Elf
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: masterwork composite longbow + masterwork arrows
Gear: Arcane Archer set + Black Dragonhide Armor
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone + Rapid Shot
Spells: -
Time Recorded: 85s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 150

Character Name: Mjoll
Class/Race: Ranger 20/Elf
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: masterwork composite longbow + masterwork arrows
Gear: Arcane Archer set + Quiver of Alacrity + Black Dragonhide Armor
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone + Rapid Shot
Spells: -
Time Recorded: 85s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 150



Tests with haste...

Character Name: Mjoll
Class/Race: Ranger 20/Elf
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: masterwork composite longbow + masterwork arrows
Gear: -
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone + Rapid Shot
Spells: Haste
Time Recorded: 86s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 150

Character Name: Mjoll
Class/Race: Ranger 20/Elf
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: masterwork composite longbow + masterwork arrows
Gear: Quiver of Alacrity
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone + Rapid Shot
Spells: Haste
Time Recorded: 86s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 150

Character Name: Mjoll
Class/Race: Ranger 20/Elf
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: masterwork composite longbow + masterwork arrows
Gear: Black Dragonhide Armor
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone + Rapid Shot
Spells: Haste
Time Recorded: 86s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 150

Character Name: Mjoll
Class/Race: Ranger 20/Elf
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: masterwork composite longbow + masterwork arrows
Gear: Quiver of Alacrity + Black Dragonhide Armor
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone + Rapid Shot
Spells: Haste
Time Recorded: 86s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 150

Character Name: Mjoll
Class/Race: Ranger 20/Elf
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: masterwork composite longbow + masterwork arrows
Gear: Arcane Archer set
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone + Rapid Shot
Spells: Haste
Time Recorded: 83s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 150

Character Name: Mjoll
Class/Race: Ranger 20/Elf
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: masterwork composite longbow + masterwork arrows
Gear: Arcane Archer set + Quiver of Alacrity
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone + Rapid Shot
Spells: Haste
Time Recorded: 83s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 150

Character Name: Mjoll
Class/Race: Ranger 20/Elf
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: masterwork composite longbow + masterwork arrows
Gear: Arcane Archer set + Black Dragonhide Armor
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone + Rapid Shot
Spells: Haste
Time Recorded: 83s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 150

Character Name: Mjoll
Class/Race: Ranger 20/Elf
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: masterwork composite longbow + masterwork arrows
Gear: Arcane Archer set + Quiver of Alacrity + Black Dragonhide Armor
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone + Rapid Shot
Spells: Haste
Time Recorded: 83s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 150



Short version (capstone and rapid shot were used for all tests)...

93s - no special gear
89s - quiver
89s - armor
89s - quiver + armor
89s - AA set
85s - AA set + quiver
85s - AA set + armor
85s - AA set + quiver + armor

86s - haste + no special gear
86s - haste + quiver
86s - haste + armor
86s - haste + quiver + armor
83s - haste + AA set
83s - haste + AA set + quiver
83s - haste + AA set + armor
83s - haste + AA set + quiver + armor

[Glenalth]

Thank you for the abundance of new numbers.

[Mjoll]

Some Deepwood Sniper set tests, I got the DS ring the other day...



Without haste:

Character Name: Mjoll
Class/Race: Ranger 20/Elf
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: masterwork composite longbow + masterwork arrows
Gear: Deepwood Sniper set
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone + Rapid Shot
Spells: -
Time Recorded: 92s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 150

Character Name: Mjoll
Class/Race: Ranger 20/Elf
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: masterwork composite longbow + masterwork arrows
Gear: Deepwood Sniper set + Quiver of Alacrity
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone + Rapid Shot
Spells: -
Time Recorded: 87s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 150

Character Name: Mjoll
Class/Race: Ranger 20/Elf
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: masterwork composite longbow + masterwork arrows
Gear: Deepwood Sniper set + Black Dragonhide Armor
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone + Rapid Shot
Spells: -
Time Recorded: 87s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 150

Character Name: Mjoll
Class/Race: Ranger 20/Elf
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: masterwork composite longbow + masterwork arrows
Gear: Deepwood Sniper set + Quiver of Alacrity + Black Dragonhide Armor
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone + Rapid Shot
Spells: -
Time Recorded: 87s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 150



With haste:

Character Name: Mjoll
Class/Race: Ranger 20/Elf
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: masterwork composite longbow + masterwork arrows
Gear: Deepwood Sniper set
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone + Rapid Shot
Spells: Haste
Time Recorded: 84s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 150

Character Name: Mjoll
Class/Race: Ranger 20/Elf
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: masterwork composite longbow + masterwork arrows
Gear: Deepwood Sniper set + Quiver of Alacrity
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone + Rapid Shot
Spells: Haste
Time Recorded: 84s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 150

Character Name: Mjoll
Class/Race: Ranger 20/Elf
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: masterwork composite longbow + masterwork arrows
Gear: Deepwood Sniper set + Black Dragonhide Armor
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone + Rapid Shot
Spells: Haste
Time Recorded: 84s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 150

Character Name: Mjoll
Class/Race: Ranger 20/Elf
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: masterwork composite longbow + masterwork arrows
Gear: Deepwood Sniper set + Quiver of Alacrity + Black Dragonhide Armor
Feats/Enhancements: Capstone + Rapid Shot
Spells: Haste
Time Recorded: 84s
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 150




Short version (capstone and rapid shot were used for all tests):

93s - no special gear

92s - DS set

89s - AA set
89s - quiver
89s - armor
89s - quiver + armor

87s - DS set + quiver
87s - DS set + armor
87s - DS set + quiver + armor

85s - AA set + quiver
85s - AA set + armor
85s - AA set + quiver + armor



86s - haste + no special gear
86s - haste + quiver
86s - haste + armor
86s - haste + quiver + armor

84s - haste + DS set
84s - haste + DS set + quiver
84s - haste + DS set + armor
84s - haste + DS set + quiver + armor

83s - haste + AA set
83s - haste + AA set + quiver
83s - haste + AA set + armor
83s - haste + AA set + quiver + armor

[PurpleTimb]

Is anyone still doing any work on this? Has it been done elsewhere?

I found this thread while searching for anything about missing (bow) shots, as I've noticed my Arcane Archer repeatedly losing a significant number of shots. It appears to be more prevalent when my connection is laggy, so I assume that it's a client-server problem, but that might just be my imagination.

Is the OP still looking for more data on bow fire rates?

[Glenalth]

Always need more numbers.

And yes, the arrows missing does seem to coincide with high latency. I can lose around 10% when playing on satellite while it's around 1% or less on a cable connection.

[DarkRea]

Great survey!

Can we conclude that for pure Rangers, max speed is only affected by AA set then? (assuming that Haste is 100% drunk/buffed)

Mjoll, does the numbers you have change with Madstones "haste"? (Is it possible to go Slay stance then Madstone up and shoot?..assuming one dont need to cast a spell next 2 mins :))

[Glenalth]

Great survey!

Can we conclude that for pure Rangers, max speed is only affected by AA set then? (assuming that Haste is 100% drunk/buffed)


Need more numbers.

Consensus is that AA set does nothing for capstoned rangers. There is the occasional report that it stacks though.

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Here's an older thread which was started on the same topic: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=234976