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Sonilas
09-22-2010, 10:57 PM
I need a Bluid INTIMIDATE/TANK of 28 points for Elite Raids and Epic Raids.
Note: Do not be WF.

Corpsebride
09-22-2010, 11:08 PM
Getting a 28 pt build up and ready for intimitanking in elite and epic raids is an exercise in patience - so much of what you will need comes from gear that requires random drop luck, epic farming, and raid crafting farming. I believe the magic number you aim for will be 79 intimidate minimum in order to be successful at your role in an epic/elite raid. Quick warning, I suspect that at end game you will be all but required to greater reincarnate your future character into a 32 point build to get to that number, mostly from my husband's experience with his fighter intimitank.

Before suggesting a build, perhaps you could give hints to what class you are looking for and whether or not you'd want to multiclass? Also, more specifics about playstyle and investment would be useful. Two handed vs two weapon fighter vs use magic device vs AC vs tome usage all change potential builds quite a bit.

Sonilas
09-22-2010, 11:25 PM
Getting a 28 pt build up and ready for intimitanking in elite and epic raids is an exercise in patience - so much of what you will need comes from gear that requires random drop luck, epic farming, and raid crafting farming. I believe the magic number you aim for will be 79 intimidate minimum in order to be successful at your role in an epic/elite raid. Quick warning, I suspect that at end game you will be all but required to greater reincarnate your future character into a 32 point build to get to that number, mostly from my husband's experience with his fighter intimitank.

Before suggesting a build, perhaps you could give hints to what class you are looking for and whether or not you'd want to multiclass? Also, more specifics about playstyle and investment would be useful. Two handed vs two weapon fighter vs use magic device vs AC vs tome usage all change potential builds quite a bit.

It can be multiclass, the goal is Pure Tank / Intimidate, maybe Human or Dwarf (28 Point)... Do not want to know the items that I use. Only one Bluid well done with the DDO Character Planner.

unbongwah
09-23-2010, 11:45 AM
As Corpsebride said, endgame tanking has more to do with your gear than your build; if you're not willing to do the gear grind, I wouldn't plan on endgame tanking.

That said, here's a 28-pt DPS tank build I've been tinkering with. It sacrifices endgame DPS (ftr capstone) and 1 feat for full ranks of UMD, +10% run speed, single use of Rage, and +1 PA dmg (barb enh); could also squeeze in barb sprint enh. It does require at least three +1 tomes, but not until late in its career; if you take a +2 Supreme, that would cover everything and then some. I don't know if it's epic-raid-worthy, but frankly I don't know if any 28-pt build is epic-raid-worthy.


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.5.1
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Level 20 True Neutral Human Female
(18 Fighter \ 1 Barbarian \ 1 Rogue)
Hit Points: 340
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 9
Will: 8

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 16 24
Dexterity 12 13
Constitution 14 14
Intelligence 12 13
Wisdom 8 8
Charisma 12 13

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 15
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 17
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 5 6
Bluff 1 1
Concentration 2 2
Diplomacy 1 1
Disable Device 5 5
Haggle 5 5
Heal -1 -1
Hide 1 1
Intimidate 5 45
Jump 7 30
Listen -1 -1
Move Silently 1 1
Open Lock 5 5
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 1 1
Search 5 5
Spot 3 3
Swim 3 7
Tumble 5 5
Use Magic Device 5 24

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Intimidate (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Least Dragonmark of Sentinel
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting


Level 3 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 5 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 6 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Lesser Dragonmark of Sentinel
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 7 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 9 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Dragonmark of Sentinel


Level 10 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 11 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Intimidate


Level 13 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 15 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Bullheaded


Level 16 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Combat Expertise


Level 17 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 18 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 19 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 20 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Dodge
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery II
Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender I
Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender II
Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender III
Enhancement: Fighter Greatsword Specialization I
Enhancement: Fighter Greatsword Specialization II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Deneith Intimidation I
Enhancement: Deneith Intimidation II
Enhancement: Deneith Intimidation III
Enhancement: Deneith Intimidation IV
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate I
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate II
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate III
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate IV
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness IV


You'll use 2H weapons (+PA) for DPS, go S&B (+CE once you take it) for tanking. [I would aim for epic Sword of Shadows and epic Chimera's Fang.] Skills: max Intim & UMD every level, extra pts wherever you like; I put them into Jump, but Balance or maybe Spot are good options too. Dragonmarks are mostly for the Intim boost, but the limited buffing won't hurt while leveling. You can choose to go either Kensai or SD while leveling, depending on which works better for you; but by endgame you switch to SD full-time (missing pre-req for Kensai III).

By endgame your Intimidate score should be at least:

23 ranks
5 CHA 20 (base 12 + 1 tome + 1 Litany + 6 item)
4 Deneith (human enhs)
4 ftr enhs
3 SF Intim
2 Bullheaded
2 Least DM
6 SD III
15 +Intim item (competence)
6 Shroud item
2 Luck bonus (e.g. Head of Good Fortune)
72 base Intim
4 Greater Heroism
76 buffed Intim
2-5 human Versatility (depending on enhs)
78-83 short-term Intim

With the right gear your AC will be good but not spectacular:

10 base
15 Dragontouched Plate
5 DEX bonus (base 12 + 1 tome + 1 Litany + 6 item)
9 Levik's Defender (mithril tower shield +5)
5 Levik's set bonus (insight)
2 alchemical ritual (armor & shield)
1 Dodge feat
5 Combat Expertise
2 Chaosgardes (dodge)
3 Chattering ring (dodge)
5 Protection item (6 w/Superior Stability)
2 Stalwart Defender set
3 SD III
4 SD III defensive stance
71 base AC in tank mode
5 Barkskin from ranger 12+
4 bard song (Heroics)
2 Recitation
1 Haste
5 paladin aura
88 party / raid buffed AC (+5 when shield-blocking)

Hopefully if I've forgotten or miscounted anything, someone else will point it out.