Wrack Construct - anyone using it?

[Draccus]

A few days ago, my wonderful guild decided to run a Shroud speed run to see if we could break the current record of 11 minutes. We ran it last night. We didn't break the record (we broke our own record, though, and made some funny, stupid mistakes along the way) but I learned something interesting.

As we were prepping, someone jokingly suggested I swap some enhancements for Wrack Construct to speed up the portal bashing. I had no experience with the enhancments so I gave it a read. Interesting...crits on constructs. Since P1 of the Shroud is where you spend the most time anyway, I bit the bullet and swapped it out (12 APs...ouch...I can't wait to get them back in 3 days!)

So I headed off to the Training Dummy on our boat to test it out.

Oh
My
Goodness

I used the skill on the dummy and he dropped like a rock. Seeing full sneaks on a construct was definitely a strange sight but it made a HUGE difference.

Unfortunately, it didn't help much in the speed run. We were killing the portals so fast that I only got one chance per portal to use it and the portal made it's save all but one time. With portals dying in 6 seconds, Wrack Construct isn't helping.

BUT...on a non-speed run or a short-man run, I could see this thing being very useful. I can also see it being useful in places like Epic Snitch (Crateos), Epic VoNs (lots of golems and the nasty end fight boss in VoN5), Epic OOB (scorps at the end...not really a big deal as they burn fast), and even non-epic quests with lots of constructs like Rainbow, etc.

Anyone have more than 15 minutes of experience with this enhancement? If so, where have you found it useful and what was failing its save enough to make it worth it?

It's a pretty heavy AP investment for a non-mechanic (you need DDIII or Mechanic I) but seeing that training dummy drop was impressive.

[Qezuzu]

In shroud, the portals have a very high reflex save. A bit too high for an INAMINATE OBJECT.

You'll do better with Subtle Backstabbing, or Haste, or many other AP things. Wrack Contruct isn't worth it, it's just too situational and has too low a save to be all that useful.

[Zilta]

We all know those portals are are just waiting for the right time to strike and dodge our attacks, thats why they have such high saves.

[buddabopp]

Just a side note it isen't wrack construct but a monk with dark,dark,dark finisher with a 40 DC seems to hit the portals somewhat reliably (about 15% of the time), i use it every chance i get in shroud, and yes it rocks to get sneak attacks and crits on portals :)

[andbr22]

I think it is fortitude save. Too bad construct have them propably quite high (epsecially red named constructs). Well dont forget it works on WF! To bad that in PvP most will still get this 125% of fortification.

[Draccus]

I think it is fortitude save. Too bad construct have them propably quite high (epsecially red named constructs). Well dont forget it works on WF! To bad that in PvP most will still get this 125% of fortification.

It's a reflex save. With my +9 int ring on, I had a 28 DC.

I would never take it on an assassin, as they are AP starved anyway and 12 AP is far too much to give up for something as situational as this.

But on a mechanic, it may be worth it since they already meet the Prereq.

[Truga]

But on a mechanic, it may be worth it since they already meet the Prereq.This. Besides, crit smite on a construct? Yes, please.

[Bodic]

Go Von4 Epic w/it

[Symar-FangofLloth]

I have Wrack2 on my Rogue.

It doesn't go off very often in shroud, but at least it's doing some extra damage per hit.

[delsoboss]

On my lvl 16 finesse rogue mechanic it's the only thing i can use against constructs to damage them after i've used (and between cooldowns of) my 3 smite constructs.

It's not much and a smiter weapon is surely way better but i love the possibility to critical hit a construct with smite after lessening his fortification (only happened with an ancient warforged in dreams of insanity for 130 damage in one swing).