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Sanguine_J3S3
09-13-2010, 02:59 PM
Consider all twf feats are taken, all raid buffs, self buffs, enhancements, boosts which one would be a better dps with two min2 khopeshes?

1) pure fighter - kensai 3
2) pure barb - fb 3
3) 12 fighter / 6 ranger / 2 monk - kensai 2/tempest 1
4) 12 fighter / 6 barb / 2 rogue - kensai 2/fb 1/1d6+3 sneak
5) pure str rogue assassin
6) other

I know that player skill affects as well, so consider they all are perfect DPS builds and being played by a equally same skilled players. (by perfect DPS build i mean all items, feats and enhancements are taken for dps and cant be better regarding dps(except min2 khopesh)). Dont consider survivability and monster DR.

If your answer is 6 then what is it?

And lastly does using different khopeshes change the order?

Graave
09-14-2010, 12:24 AM
Consider a 6 paladin splash

With 6 paladin you get the following

divine sacrifice 5d6 light damage - not sure if it still double taps like it used to or not
Exalted smite 1 - +1 crit multiplier on smites
Divine might 1 +2 damage
Caster 6 divine favor for +2 to hit and +2 to damage

Not to mention if you went 12 fighter 6 pal (2 rogue or monk) you'd have higher saves thus better reflex because of the cha to saves
so ontop of the added dps, you get added saves and inherent fear immunity

Hokonoso
09-17-2010, 09:44 AM
6 other

right now the most twf khopesh dps is from the 18/2 barb/fighter fb3 with fighter haste boost. sure that is close to the full barb, but it does much more dps than the full barb so it's hard to compare, otherwise id stick with the 20 fighter for more haste boosts as splashing doesnt help much.

Merlocke
09-17-2010, 09:52 AM
6 other

right now the most twf khopesh dps is from the 18/2 barb/fighter fb3 with fighter haste boost.

2 Rog gets you a haste boost also :)

Consumer
09-17-2010, 09:52 AM
6 other

right now the most twf khopesh dps is from the 18/2 barb/fighter fb3 with fighter haste boost. sure that is close to the full barb, but it does much more dps than the full barb so it's hard to compare, otherwise id stick with the 20 fighter for more haste boosts as splashing doesnt help much.

Not true. The advantage of the TWF 18/2 is that it has good burst DPS combined with good sustained DPS. A pure Fighter will have higher DPS but will have lower sustained DPS. The Fighter will also have a higher to hit giving it more DPS in epics.

Ssmooth
09-17-2010, 10:07 AM
Not true. The advantage of the TWF 18/2 is that it has good burst DPS combined with good sustained DPS. A pure Fighter will have higher DPS but will have lower sustained DPS. The Fighter will also have a higher to hit giving it more DPS in epics.

Having an 18/2 barb/fighter, but no 20 kensai, I can only state that in part II of ToD with all dps starting at the same time, I've never lost aggro, even vs 20 barb with ESOS and 20 kensai with E. Antique GA. I believe that a properly built 20 KotC would probably pull aggro from me, but have yet to be tried vs one.

Atm, my vote goes to the 18/2 barb/fighter outside of epics, but probably kensai in epics due to the to-hit-factor.

quickbunnie
09-17-2010, 10:47 AM
It's situational. A pure rogue with no aggro against a 0% fortification mob will do the most damage (while they have haste boost). A KoTC Paladin will do close to that kind of damage, but only against evil outsiders. Pure fighters will be ahead against non EO mobs assuming the toon will have aggro, but again, while their haste boosts last.