8 Palidan 6 Ranger 6 Fighter

[Daveodude]

My friend is going for completionist andhe is taking pakidan next i told him it would be hard to play as i have a level 20 palidan so i thought up this build for him comments please

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dathis
Level 20 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(6 Fighter \ 8 Paladin \ 6 Ranger)
Hit Points: 440
Spell Points: 100
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 25
Reflex: 17
Will: 6

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 18 28
Dexterity 16 22
Constitution 18 24
Intelligence 8 8
Wisdom 6 6
Charisma 6 6

Tomes Used
+4 Tome of Strength used at level 12
+4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 12
+4 Tome of Constitution used at level 12

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 3 6
Bluff -2 -1
Concentration 4 8
Diplomacy -2 -1
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 0 2.5
Heal -2 -2
Hide 7 15
Intimidate -2 -1
Jump 8 29
Listen -2 -2
Move Silently 3 6
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 -1
Search -1 -1
Spot -2 -2
Swim 8 18
Tumble n/a n/a
Use Magic Device 0 2.5

{\b {\ul Notable Equipment }} \par +5 Acid Burst Metalline Scimitar of Pure Good \par Tharne's Goggles \par Docent of Defense \par Levik's Bracers \par Lorinthor's Ring \par Kilau's Band \par Verik's Ring \par Madstone Boots \par Spectral Gloves \par Lorinthor's Belt \par Cloak of Protection \par Kilau's Necklace \par Verik's Necklace \par Minos Legens \par Bloodstone \par +5 Acid Burst Metalline Scimitar of Pure Good \par \par Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Ranger)


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting


Level 4 (Ranger)


Level 5 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 7 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 8 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Critical


Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge


Level 10 (Fighter)


Level 11 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 14 (Paladin)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility


Level 16 (Paladin)


Level 17 (Paladin)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack


Level 19 (Paladin)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty
Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Kensei Scimitar Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil III
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
Enhancement: Fighter Jump I
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II
Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction I
Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction II
Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction III
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack III



i took the scimitars instead of kopeshes beacuse i thought the crit range would be insane like 15-20 or somthing like that there will be no self healing but the damage on a smite evil should be over 1000 i think please comment
I figured he would make two min 2 scims and have tempest set kensai set and KotC set from amerath cince he levels from 18-20 out there and prolly has most of those sets anyways

[elraido]

How in the world do you figure 1000 points of damage on a smite evil with a weapon that only has a x2 crit?

[Daveodude]

cause my palidan at level 20 no tr can do 600 on a smite evil and with extras it is about 650 and he only use one scim and a shield with two weapons i figure he has a chance of two crit smites that is what i am saying

[Failstorm666]

assuming min ii/imp crit, with scimitar/rapier you'll get 13-20 x4, khopeshes 15-20 x5, picks 17-20 x6; the best is epic SoS with imp crit: slashing which would give 15-20 x6 and its thf

[Gunga]

18/2 Pali/Fighter would be way more dps and a lot more fun, imho.

[Aranticus]

cause my palidan at level 20 no tr can do 600 on a smite evil and with extras it is about 650 and he only use one scim and a shield with two weapons i figure he has a chance of two crit smites that is what i am saying

the thing is a pure paladin would be able to extend the crit multiplier by taking exalted smite enhancements. a 8 pal wouldnt have enough exalted smite for the crit multiplier to hit 1000 smites. in addition, the smite damage is also dependant on paladin levels. most of the paladins with 1000 smites are thf pure pally with eSoS thus your scimitar wielding 8 pally isnt going to achieve anything near

as to your build, dex and con is too high. 13 dex is all u need for twf if you have access to +4 tomes. 18 con is overkill as you have no charisma which means you will not have divine might. +4 tomes at L12? +3 tomes are L11. which means you will have to use them later

balance is more important than jump or swim, umd is pretty much a all or none skill. dodge, mobility and spring attack should be taken by L6 to qualify for tempest. power critical is a useless feat. you are going for dps but yet neglect to take fighter haste boost. last but not least, 8/6/6 is a very bad split. your multiclasses are too spread out to be efficient in the role you designed. dps = either pal 14, 18 or 20/ fighter 12, 18 or 20/ ranger 6, 18

[hecate355]

dump swim, hide, haggle take something useful instead, like balance, umd(if not max already)

drop power critical and take khophes, it may sound boring, but they are still better dps, especially on non elf

also, does your friend have +4 tomes waiting? not like those drop every

and last, level 8 paladin is never going to smite anywhere near 1000, cause smite is based on paladin level, you should ask yourself what exactly do you gain with this many paladin levels on your minimum charisma, you only get tier1 kotc, few emergency heals and around 200 damage smite(per hand)

i personally would consider 2 level paladin splash or 2 level rogue/fighter splash on paladin rather than such fairly equal one, nothing drastically wrong with level split you made, but im quite sure 18/2 or pure performs better, 18/2 will also have enough feats for typical dps setup

[Daveodude]

he has like two plus 4 tomes for everything he has ran ToD like 60 times b4 he tr the first time

[testing1234]

going to use negative comments about your build to make my point this is since it would be pretty evil to just smile and say nice when u see errors in it dont take it the wrong way.

-big mistake taking ranger lvls first as you wont have feats needed to take tempest until you hit lvl18.

-smite evil 1000 not going to happen, let me explain copy paste how smite works.

compendium link on smite
"This list is the four levels of exalted smite that are missing from the Compendium that I created for those seeking info on them. Note: These are Paladin Enhancements.

* Paladin Exalted Smite I: Level 6
* Paladin Exalted Smite II: Level 10
* Paladin Exalted Smite III: Level 14
* Paladin Exalted Smite IV: Level 18

--Dantesol 03:10, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
[edit] Attack and Damage Formula

Smite base damage is 7 + (paladin level*3) (eg, 67 for a lvl 20 paladin)

Exalted Smite is just Smite with all the added benefits. It adds double your charisma modifier to your attack and the following to your damage.

Exalted Smite I: Increases your Critical multiplier by +1

Exalted Smite II: Increases your Critical multiplier by +1 and your Critical range by +1

Exalted Smite III: Increases your Critical multiplier by +2 and your Critical range by +1

Exalted Smite IV: Increases your Critical multiplier by +2 and your Critical range by +2

--Dantesol 04:59, 20 January 2010 (UTC)"
wiki on smite
"Once per rest period, a Paladin may attempt to Smite evil with one normal melee attack. The number of times a Paladin can Smite Evil increases by 1 at level 5 and 10 and can be further increased by taking the Extra Smite Evil Enhancement. Smite evil also recharges at the rate of 1 every 90 seconds.

Adds Charisma modifier x 2 to your attack roll (that uses the best attack bonus in a normal attack sequence) and deals extra damage based on your paladin level. A Paladin with 12 Charisma (+1 modifier) and BAB 0 would add 2 (1 x 2 + 0) to the attack roll. A Paladin with 20 CHA (+5 modifier) and BAB 10 would add 30 (5 x 2 + 20) to the attack roll (because the 4th attack is at BAB+10 = 20).

The extra damage done is 7 + (3 x paladin level). For example a 6th level paladin does 7 + (3 x 6) (or 25) extra damage on a successful smite. If the paladin accidentally smites a creature that is not evil, or is not in range, the smite has no effect, but the ability is still used up. "

me on your builds smite:
so ur build only has the first lvl of exalted smite so your choice of a 2x weapon high crit seems to work well with only 8 lvls of pala but you estimate of crits are unreasonable
ur looking at 7+(3x8) extra damage from smite
mainhand 93+(1d8+12+6bloodstone)x3=159
got a splash pala 7 lvls of pala and he gets smite crits around 140 with 30str and bloodstone using 2x weapon, dont count on always getting it on both weapons but it does happen frequently.


-why so low cha and high con? seems a shame to waste chance of easily getting good saves

-drop power critical feat you already have mad +tohit on your crits using bloodstone or ment goggels and this feat does NOT add damage only +tohit.
id suggest taking extend so your divine favor hits for 2min and if your high enough ranger lvl for rams might it also lasts long enough to matter

[SteeleTrueheart]

Smite base damage is 7 + (paladin level*3) (eg, 67 for a lvl 20 paladin)



:happytears:

Finally my beating that formula into various heads has paid off. (I suppose editing the wiki a couple of times may have helped too)