View Full Version : Playing a light monk and I need a little advice.
InvadeNormandy
08-30-2010, 01:57 AM
I'm playing in a duo with a friend's dark monk and I've wanted to ask a few questions.
1: Can I increase the healing my positive fist "Curse" does? Outgoing healing, not just received.
2: Can I increase the healing of my pos-pos-pos finisher? same as before, making it heal others more outright.
Not talking so much about effects like healing amp as I am talking about effects that increase healing to other targets.
3: And is pure monk better for light, or is it better to splash something?
and finally.
4: Since I'm going down the arguably mediocre shintao path, will I at least have the pleasure of punching vampires in their stupid faces and seeing actual damaging results?
My character in question is a level 6 human monk, following the near universal monk guide of finesse/TWF with handwraps.
Bodic
08-30-2010, 02:01 AM
Healing amp if human and monk AP healing amp from gear also example dragon touched armor
Xeraphim
08-30-2010, 02:12 AM
1. No, it relies purely on the Cure Amplification of the beneficiary. You can increase your intake with healing amplification.
2. Yes, it is affected by Ardor I/Devotion I and Positive Energy Lore.
3. Pure. STR based.
4. Only if you are STR based, like my 2007 Punchy of Argonnessen build.
The build was revised to include Shintao feats instead of Spring Attack, however.
InvadeNormandy
08-30-2010, 02:14 AM
1. No, it relies purely on the Cure Amplification of the beneficiary. You can increase your intake with healing amplification.
2. Yes, it is affected by Ardor I/Devotion I and Positive Energy Lore.
3. Pure. STR based.
4. Only if you are STR based, like my 2007 Punchy of Argonnessen build.
What do you have to go about differently when you're STR based instead of DEX based? As I might swap my build around or even remake if need be.
Xeraphim
08-30-2010, 02:18 AM
What do you have to go about differently when you're STR based instead of DEX based? As I might swap my build around or even remake if need be.
AC means nothing. It is worthless.
Discard Weapon Finesse and pick up an extra feat. If you can't find anything, use Toughness.
STR based can still use Grandmaster Wind Stance with Greater Two Weapon Fighting, maximizing DPS(as Fire stance is still lower DPS despite the STR boost).
Maximize Human and Monk Healing Amplification and use the Amplification effect from Gear and your Enhancements as your artificial armor class. Clerics really enjoy being able to keep a fellow alive with Cure Light Wounds in a raid. Remember that Heal Amplification stacks multiplicatively, so 30% + 30% means 169%. The highest I can get it currently is with a slew of gear and 4 TRs at 420%.
Your first priority is the Kyosho's Ring and Shintao Necklace in Amrath. Second is supplementary to that, which is commonly the Encrusted Ring and Knost's Belt.
By level 20 you should be hitting as hard as a greensteel greataxe at the speed of a Tempest III.
Feats: Power Attack, TWF, ITWF, GTWF, IC: Bludgeon, Toughness, The rest whatever suits you.
I took TWF and Toughness at level 1.
InvadeNormandy
08-30-2010, 02:24 AM
Any particular stat spread I should look at for STR based? Or am I already boned and need to remake? (Also I realize the slight tinge of stupidity when I ask what stat I should go for -STR- based in retrospect =p)
My current stats are as followed.
STR 16
DEX 18
CON 14
INT 8
WIS 16
CHA 8
Without gear is
14
17
14
8
15
8
Xeraphim
08-30-2010, 02:28 AM
Any particular stat spread I should look at for STR based? Or am I already boned and need to remake?
My current stats are as followss:.
14
17
14
8
15
8
I really don't use WIS too much, though Stunning Fist becomes important in Epic.
I went with 16/15/14/8/16(or 14, I forget if this is the 34 point version)/8 and ate a +3 DEX tome later on for Wind 4 stance. The 2 STR adds up in a hurry with his attack rate... every +1 really counts. On a TR2+(36 point build) the stats were 18/15/14/8/14/8 I think...
If you are limited to a +2 tome however I would probably drop the WIS and put it into DEX to get to 16. On every level up I went STR, with a +3 tome it comes to a nice total using only a +6 item. If you feel froggy, the Shintao Ring adds +1 STR so grab the Epic Red Dragon Helm to make it even again.
The only Grandmaster stance I have is Wind for the Doublestrikes and permanent haste(attack rate outbalances +2 damage between stances, and it's hard to use all the ki anyway).
As far as posting your stats on the Forums, I really prefer the Nude stats, because everything builds off of those.
InvadeNormandy
08-30-2010, 02:37 AM
MANY thanks for the info, I'm prepping my monk's gear to be held by another character while I remake, thank god for vet status =p so I will only have two levels to worry with.
a few final questions, when leveling did you use wind stance exclusively or fire stance untill the improved varient of wind?
Also, your monk is human as well correct?
Edit: Remade, but the best spread I can hope for is 16/16/12/8/12/8 as I'm still a 28 point punk.
The_Duck
08-30-2010, 11:58 AM
The healing amps work pretty well. Once you get a potency item (use helm slot until you get Minos Legends around level 12-14) and level 3 amp you can use fists of light and receive 3hp per hit. That adds up pretty fast.
I found a pretty nifty helm with greater potency and +5 concentration. Loved that one.
You can find helm or ring potency items on the Market Jewelry/Clothing brokers usually.
voodoogroves
08-30-2010, 12:26 PM
Remember those Superior Ardor I pots are + 75% ... better than a ring and cheap cheap cheap. Just stay hydrated.
D-molisher
08-30-2010, 12:35 PM
Currently i am doing second tr as a monk, Light shintao - Bruized lee.
I like the smite evil, banishing fist. and they work ok, but slow for many ki.
You need remember 2 important things:
1 . Stunning blow is str based + item.
2 . Stunning fist is wis based + item.
With a good stunning handwraps thats free crowd control.
But its kind of hard having HIGH str + wiz + con & ½ dex.
He he
I got some like:
17 str, 12 dex, 16 con, 17 wiz > base lvl 1. But tr´d a little for that.
( int 8, cha 6 ).
P.S. Yes my base AC is around 42 ^^
Doesnt matter with earthstance DR, that helps better than most other.
The_Duck
08-30-2010, 12:38 PM
Remember those Superior Ardor I pots are + 75% ... better than a ring and cheap cheap cheap. Just stay hydrated.
Well, there is some good advice.
What is the timer on those?
Narcissistic_Martyr
08-30-2010, 12:46 PM
3 minutes each IIRC.
voodoogroves
08-30-2010, 12:53 PM
Compendium says they are 50%, but testing by lots of folks has confirmed they run 75%. You only need Ardor 1.
http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Item:Potion_of_Superior_Ardor_I
I can't find the duration online and I'm not on right now - I want to say 3 or 6 minutes?
Baahb3
08-30-2010, 01:21 PM
Narc is right, they last 3 min and cost around 60 gold each. You can find them in Object Desire in House P IIRC.
Superior Ardor I pots are what you are looking for.
Darkrok
08-30-2010, 01:45 PM
Narc is right, they last 3 min and cost around 60 gold each. You can find them in Object Desire in House P IIRC.
Superior Ardor I pots are what you are looking for.
Yeah, you can't beat the superior ardor I pots for light monks. I rarely have to do the lightx3 finisher anymore as the heals are always sufficient in the groups I run without it but when the **** hits the fan you can really amp up your outgoing heals on the cheap.
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