Ok I'm gonna do it

[k1dwizard]

As of this point I have officially decided to multi class a toon.

I have a ranger, barbarian, cleric, wizard, bard, monk, and a rogue most up to level 20, but they are all pure breeds. i found this to be fun, and i have enjoyed my time with being pure, But now has come the time to roll up a gimp. i dont mean this in a derrogitory way, I used the gimp roller and found a very interesting build i never would have thought of myself, not to mention all my other toons are gimps as well.

anyway i bring it to the masses to see how you guys like it, and how you think i could make it worse, or improve it. it looks so far like i am going to be able to have a decent AC, but am really bad at calculating such things, so if you could help me out in figuring out what AC I could have that would be great as well. No too heavy on the unobtanium like the chattering ring, but I am sure you get my point, here it goes;

level 20 lawfull good Dwarf Shananigens (9 monk/7 wiz/4 fighter)

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.34
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Level 20 Lawful Good Dwarf Male
(4 Fighter \ 9 Monk \ 7 Wizard)
Hit Points: 322
Spell Points: 619
BAB: 13\13\18\23
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 13
Will: 15

Starting Ending
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 14 21
Dexterity 16 18
Constitution 16 18
Intelligence 14 16
Wisdom 12 14
Charisma 6 8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Mental Toughness


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Combat Expertise
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 4 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 6 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell


Level 7 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness


Level 8 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow


Level 10 (Wizard)


Level 11 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell


Level 13 (Fighter)


Level 14 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist


Level 15 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 16 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 18 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Mental Toughness


Level 19 (Monk)


Level 20 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR




Mental note; thi was adapted from a elf 9 monk/7sorc/4fighter build due to getting more selection of spells and fw at peak level.

HP
322 base
60 +6 con
30 GFL
45 shroud
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457

AC
10 base
7 dex
8 armor bracers (probably going to be 5 with monk bracers from sentinels but meh
5 protection
5 CE
3 bark
4 shield (self buffed)
1 dodge
3 monk wiz
3 IR
1 haste
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50 I am sure I am missing something to help push me over the edge what do you guys think?

edit; forgot to mention that this has i believe a total of 16 feats, if i went human, we are talking 17, how sweet is that.

[ragwa1]

As of this point I have officially decided to multi class a toon.

I have a ranger, barbarian, cleric, wizard, bard, monk, and a rogue most up to level 20, but they are all pure breeds. i found this to be fun, and i have enjoyed my time with being pure, But now has come the time to roll up a gimp. i dont mean this in a derrogitory way, I used the gimp roller and found a very interesting build i never would have thought of myself, not to mention all my other toons are gimps as well.

anyway i bring it to the masses to see how you guys like it, and how you think i could make it worse, or improve it. it looks so far like i am going to be able to have a decent AC, but am really bad at calculating such things, so if you could help me out in figuring out what AC I could have that would be great as well. No too heavy on the unobtanium like the chattering ring, but I am sure you get my point, here it goes;

level 20 lawfull good Dwarf Shananigens (9 monk/7 wiz/4 fighter)

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.34
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Level 20 Lawful Good Dwarf Male
(4 Fighter \ 9 Monk \ 7 Wizard)
Hit Points: 322
Spell Points: 619
BAB: 13\13\18\23
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 13
Will: 15

Starting Ending
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 14 21
Dexterity 16 18
Constitution 16 18
Intelligence 14 16
Wisdom 12 14
Charisma 6 8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Mental Toughness


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Combat Expertise
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 4 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 6 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell


Level 7 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness


Level 8 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow


Level 10 (Wizard)


Level 11 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell


Level 13 (Fighter)


Level 14 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist


Level 15 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 16 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 18 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Mental Toughness


Level 19 (Monk)


Level 20 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR




Mental note; thi was adapted from a elf 9 monk/7sorc/4fighter build due to getting more selection of spells and fw at peak level.

HP
322 base
60 +6 con
30 GFL
45 shroud
---------
457

AC
10 base
7 dex
8 armor bracers (probably going to be 5 with monk bracers from sentinels but meh
5 protection
5 CE
3 bark
4 shield (self buffed)
1 dodge
3 monk wiz
3 IR
1 haste
--------
50 I am sure I am missing something to help push me over the edge what do you guys think?

edit; forgot to mention that this has i believe a total of 16 feats, if i went human, we are talking 17, how sweet is that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga7x9xbOyaU

[Steveohio]

stick to pure builds. I dont think you can mess them up anywhere near as bad as this pile of dung.

[GBantaR]

+1 for using the word "unobtanium"

[Doxmaster]

stick to pure builds. I dont think you can mess them up anywhere near as bad as this pile of dung.

So...instead of giving him advice you basically just taunt him and move on? NICE MOVE!

You do know about the whole Gimp character creation thing, right? Where you randomly generate a class mix and then try to make the best of it?
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Anyway, I dont think this build will offer as much to a group as it could later in the game; It will probably solo pretty well though and it will fill any extra raid/group slots after main rolls are taken care of.

If you dont mind deviating from the Gimp Roller a bit you should consider going WF and grabbing quicken, which would make you self sufficient. Not being a drain on group resources is a major boon to Gimps, Intentional or Accidental.

[Impaqt]

So...instead of giving him advice you basically just taunt him and move on? NICE MOVE!

You do know about the whole Gimp character creation thing, right? Where you randomly generate a class mix and then try to make the best of it?
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Anyway, I dont think this build will offer as much to a group as it could later in the game; It will probably solo pretty well though and it will fill any extra raid/group slots after main rolls are taken care of.

If you dont mind deviating from the Gimp Roller a bit you should consider going WF and grabbing quicken, which would make you self sufficient. Not being a drain on group resources is a major boon to Gimps, Intentional or Accidental.


I think Planning out a random character kinda defeats the purpose.... Or maybe not.....

[Kriogen]

Fighter 4 only makes sense if you take Weapon Specialization. Weapon Spec gives +2 damage per hit. But problem is that fists base damage also goes up with more monk levels. So fighter levels don't make much sense.

Wizard 7 is not so bad. But makes 10 times more sense if you go Warforged. Self buff and self repair. Plus you can also add some racial power attack enhancements for extra damage.

Oh, and FW at higher levels is not as impressive as people think.

[ZeroTakenaka]

As of this point I have officially decided to multi class a toon.

I have a ranger, barbarian, cleric, wizard, bard, monk, and a rogue most up to level 20, but they are all pure breeds. i found this to be fun, and i have enjoyed my time with being pure, But now has come the time to roll up a gimp. i dont mean this in a derrogitory way, I used the gimp roller and found a very interesting build i never would have thought of myself, not to mention all my other toons are gimps as well.

anyway i bring it to the masses to see how you guys like it, and how you think i could make it worse, or improve it. it looks so far like i am going to be able to have a decent AC, but am really bad at calculating such things, so if you could help me out in figuring out what AC I could have that would be great as well. No too heavy on the unobtanium like the chattering ring, but I am sure you get my point, here it goes;

level 20 lawfull good Dwarf Shananigens (9 monk/7 wiz/4 fighter)

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.34
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Level 20 Lawful Good Dwarf Male
(4 Fighter \ 9 Monk \ 7 Wizard)
Hit Points: 322
Spell Points: 619
BAB: 13\13\18\23
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 13
Will: 15

Starting Ending
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 14 21
Dexterity 16 18
Constitution 16 18
Intelligence 14 16
Wisdom 12 14
Charisma 6 8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Mental Toughness


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Combat Expertise
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 4 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 6 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell


Level 7 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness


Level 8 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow


Level 10 (Wizard)


Level 11 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell


Level 13 (Fighter)


Level 14 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist


Level 15 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 16 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 18 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Mental Toughness


Level 19 (Monk)


Level 20 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR




Mental note; thi was adapted from a elf 9 monk/7sorc/4fighter build due to getting more selection of spells and fw at peak level.

HP
322 base
60 +6 con
30 GFL
45 shroud
---------
457

AC
10 base
7 dex
8 armor bracers (probably going to be 5 with monk bracers from sentinels but meh
5 protection
5 CE
3 bark
4 shield (self buffed)
1 dodge
3 monk wiz
3 IR
1 haste
--------
50 I am sure I am missing something to help push me over the edge what do you guys think?

edit; forgot to mention that this has i believe a total of 16 feats, if i went human, we are talking 17, how sweet is that.

It's GIMP not gimp. Thanks =3

[Doxmaster]

Ok...explaining the process here:

You can either roll a die, or use the random class selector. It determines what classes and at what ratio; he could be a 1 wizard/14 monk/5 rangeror any other combo that is alignment legal. Some people mess around with what they get to make it more enjoyable/make more sense, but that is basically it.

This isnt an optomized build. Nor is it a theme build, an "Exploit the balls of 1 particular thing" build or even a "do a few things pretty well" build. Its a "What the hell do I do with 6 cleric, 7 ranger, 7 sorc???" build.

I would HW the guys that didnt know that...but...

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Anyway, once you have the classes chosen, its like any other build; you figure out what its good at, pick a few items you want for it and see how it does.

He seems to have wanted input on what the character will be good at, how well it will do what it can and so on...

[Steveohio]

Well then, that certainly makes sense!