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Kerashana
08-15-2010, 10:39 PM
So what you guy's think?

(7 Monk / 13 Rogue)
Hit Points: 280
Spell Points: 0

BAB: 14/14/19/24
Fortitude: 11
Reflex: 20
Will: 12

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
(28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Strength 8 8 8
Dexterity 16 21 25
Constitution 14 14 14
Intelligence 16 16 16
Wisdom 14 14 16
Charisma 10 10 10

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Balance 4 8 8
Bluff 4 20 24
Concentration 2 7 7
Diplomacy 0 0 0
Disable Device 7 26 28
Haggle 4 6 8
Heal 2 3 3
Hide 7 30 36
Intimidate 0 0 0
Jump 2 15 17
Listen 2 3 5
Move Silently 7 30 36
Open Lock 7 24 24
Perform n/a n/a n/a
Repair 3 3 3
Search 7 24 26
Spot 6 24 26
Swim -1 -1 -1
Tumble 7 13 15
Use Magic Device 4 23 23

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Bluff (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Hide (+4)
Skill: Jump (+3)
Skill: Move Silently (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I
Enhancement: Rogue Hide I
Enhancement: Rogue Move Silently I

Level 2 (Monk)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Monk Jump I
Enhancement: Monk Tumble I

Level 3 (Monk)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+2)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feeat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Weapon Finesse
Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I

Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I

Level 5 (Monk)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Monk Jump II

Level 6 (Monk)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Defense
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Monk Tumble II

Level 7 (Monk)
Skill: Disable Device (+2.5)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I

Level 8 (Monk)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey II
Enhancement: Adept of Wind

Level 9 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+3)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II

Level 10 (Rogue)
Skill: Bluff (+2)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II

Level 11 (Rogue)
Skill: Bluff (+3)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Wrack Construct I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I

Level 12 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+3)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning (Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons if you want to use short swords)
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Hide II

Level 13 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
Enhancemment: Rogue Move Silently II

Level 14 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Assassin I

Level 15 (Rogue)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+3)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense II

Level 16 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Bluff (+7)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II

Level 17 (Rogue)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1.5)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+2)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy III

Level 18 (Rogue)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III

Level 19 (Rogue)
Skill: Bluff (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+1.5)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking II
Enhancement: Rogue Assassin II

Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+5)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Crippling Strike
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing II
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device II

thenalim
08-16-2010, 08:02 AM
No touch of death
light path: smite + Fist of light
Dark path: 1d6 sneak + Fist of darkness

FoL is better than Fist of Darkness
Smite is better than 1d6 sneak

only the "shortsword in stance" is cooler on the dark path at lvl 6.

IMHO monk Light path is much better(with the shintao enhancement) until monk level 9. So if you really want to have assassin II you should go light path.

Syntax42
08-16-2010, 11:57 AM
Touch of Death is better than Smite, by far. You can easily get 1500 damage per touch of death every 15 seconds.

Assassinate DC is based on your Rogue level and your Int. Your DC to assassinate will be too low in this build.

Ninja Spy I is not giving you much benefit, compared to what you are losing. You gain the ability to use short swords, but you lose 6d6 sneak attack (3d6 from levels, 4d6 from capstone, gain 1d6).

Monk/Rogue builds have been proposed many times. Almost everyone agrees that it is much better to stay pure monk or pure rogue than to try to mix the two. Both classes gain a significant portion of their power late in their levels, and both now have excellent capstones.

Impaqt
08-16-2010, 12:07 PM
12 Monk/8Rogue is a better build (IUD at L8 Rogue vs Spell Resistance for L13 Monk)

Ninja Spy 2 with extra Rogue sneak attack Plus Touch of Death is a very nice combo.