Disappointed in Playerbase

[RobertVesco]

What gives? Turbine starts selling Anti-Beholder crystals and Anti-mummy elixirs in the store and no one goes off about it. No easy button rants, or "new players won't learn this way" rants or even a whi****l "back in the day" rant.
Shame on you guys.

[samthedagger]

I really couldn't care less about this.

[Dragonhyde]

*blinks* they did? Goes back to my store free questing:)

[Memnir]

Sure (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=265471) we have... they just put it where it's out of the way and hard to find.

[Rogues_rule]

/yawn

[Elfvyra]

Hi and welcome. Try looking under DDO Store Feedback (http://forums.ddo.com/forumdisplay.php?f=234) for this topic and many more! ;)

[RobertVesco]

Sure (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=265471) we have... they just put it where it's out of the way and hard to find.
Thanks, I don't care about it either way, but I love reading the rants. :D

[Seere]

I gave up.


It's a lost cause.


Our new player behavior model indicates the degree of challenge presented by our current ruleset is far too high a bar for most players. Therefore, lower the bar we shall.


*shrugs*


Immunity to Death rings go on sale next week, they offer complete immunity to all attacks, +55% exp bonus, and cast an AoE "Murderous Intentions" spell every 4 seconds, doing 1,000 damage to all creatures inside the dungeon for 6 hours. Timer does not burn while you are logged off.

I can't wait.

[Jendrak]

Frankly, I have gien up on ranting about the stuff they sell in the store. They dont care.

Turbine has decided that instead of having a unique challenging game the preferr to work on the Hello Kitty style MMO.

This is the main reason that im just sticking around till something else catches my attention at which point this game is going back where it belongs. The bottom drawer with the rest of the crappy games that used to be good.

[AZgreentea]

Sure (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=265471) we have... they just put it where it's out of the way and hard to find.
Hey! I didnt put it out of the way, I wanted to make sure it would be where the devs would be looking! :p

[Uska]

they can sell whatever they want 99.9% of it I wont buy no matter what it is.

[The-Last-Wolf]

Immunity to Death rings go on sale next week, they offer complete immunity to all attacks, +55% exp bonus, and cast an AoE "Murderous Intentions" spell every 4 seconds, doing 1,000 damage to all creatures inside the dungeon for 6 hours. Timer does not burn while you are logged off.


You forgot, the part where they give +1150% Guild renown and are level 1 ;-)

On a semi-serious note, I would suggest taking the "Who cares" attitude.

A number of years ago in RL I saw an interesting scene that perhaps illustrates my point.

Hot summer day busy town street and a set of traffic lights. Past the traffic lights is a bit of a drag run 2 lane straight for about 1/4 mile, few side turnings and no lights. A very nice open top European sports car of an older design pulls upto the lights. Beautiful lines, dark grey, driver in his mid 40's I guess. A few moment later another car pulls up. It is of Japanese manufacture, bright yellow, brand new, spoilers and go faster stripes, the Supercharger wheezing away, blacked out windows, music thumping from the 40GW stereo inside and 2 youngish looking youths driving.

So, the Yellow car, begins revving it's engine. The driver in the grey car looks over, contemplates for a moment and the low deep growl of his engine starts to appear. not surprisingly, people stop and stare. The engines rev some more, rev some more and bam, the amber light appears (UK traffic signals) and with a squealing of tires the yellow car tears off down the road.

The driver of the grey car calmly makes a circle with his fingers and thumb and shakes it in the universal sign language for w....... (you know what I mean). and calmly drives off.

The crowd, spontaneously breaks into applause.

Style wins over all in my opinion. It's not what you do, it's how you do it ;-)

Regards
Wolf

[Lorien_the_First_One]

Sure (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=265471) we have... they just put it where it's out of the way and hard to find.

Hold on, that wasn't a joke? They really put that stuff in the store? :eek:

OMG, I thought that was a "what idiodic thing will you put in next, hey lets go really over the top" type spoof.


edit: Ok, I just looked in the store. It is real :S I don't understand what is happening to this game. Beholders are supposed to be scarey. That's why you get the necro necklace, that's why you send in the WF, that's why you have an arcane sneak in and PK, tactics! What happened to tactics?!

[Zenako]

Hold on, that wasn't a joke? They really put that stuff in the store? :eek:

OMG, I thought that was a "what idiodic thing will you put in next, hey lets go really over the top" type spoof.


edit: Ok, I just looked in the store. It is real :S I don't understand what is happening to this game.

yup...the slide down that proverbial slippery slope is getting faster and faster.....:(

[Memnir]

Hold on, that wasn't a joke?Well, it is a joke, if you look at it a certain way... just not a joke in the 'funny ha-ha' manner.

[Ollathir]

What gives? Turbine starts selling Anti-Beholder crystals and Anti-mummy elixirs in the store and no one goes off about it. No easy button rants, or "new players won't learn this way" rants or even a whi****l "back in the day" rant.
Shame on you guys.


http://i468.photobucket.com/albums/rr41/ollathir7/DDO_Store.jpg

Back in my day, you'd take the xp penalty and recall out if you failed. But you learned what not to do the next time. Now all a new player needs to learn to play the game is where to find the DDO store?



Think I covered them all for you here.

[Raolin_Darksbane]

I'm starting to wonder why Turbine just doesn't offer an all out uber-mega pack to all these people who rely on DDO store purchases instead of skill.

I mean let's get real, they're selling out slowly but surely in terms of challenging the player base by adding items like this to the store, so why not go all out and just go straight for the throat to make some instant BIG money?

Seeing as money is obviously the driving motive here, I propose that Turbine offers an all out uber-mega pack in the DDO store.

Maybe they could offer the following for let's say $1000
Full capped lvl 20 status for the character.
1 uber shroud weapon of their choice.
1 uber shroud clothing article of their choice.
500,000 plat in their bank account
Any 10 pcs of named loot from any raid in the game
Any 1 set of armor they want - upgraded dragonscale etc etc included.
Favor for all quests on elite difficulty
A +2 tome of supreme ability for that character

I realize the ultimate point of adding the beholder pots etc to the game is to generate more revenue from the people too lame to actually play the game and have to employ any actual type of skill or thought. Thus, instead of trying to nickel and dime, they could just throw it all out in one convenient purchase, make $1000 quickly, and still cater to the player who would rather buy their way through a game rather than play it.

Win - win all the way around right? :rolleyes:

[Hendrik]

Hold on, that wasn't a joke? They really put that stuff in the store? :eek:

OMG, I thought that was a "what idiodic thing will you put in next, hey lets go really over the top" type spoof.


edit: Ok, I just looked in the store. It is real :S I don't understand what is happening to this game. Beholders are supposed to be scarey. That's why you get the necro necklace, that's why you send in the WF, that's why you have an arcane sneak in and PK, tactics! What happened to tactics?!


That does not sell well in the store so they had to remove it.

;)

My thoughts on this **** in the store;

BFD. People won't remember or even know to buy them in advance for an upcoming Quest. When they get into a situation where they need to buy them, let 'em. Fool and his money and all that...

Experienced players are equipped for these situations either by gear or tactics.

[Yagi]

I dont get why people always blame new players for dumbing down of mechanics. Are these store items actually a result of new players whining about beholders and mummies? To me its just as likely that Turbine is just trying to put things out that people might buy and seeing what sticks.

Keep in mind that a new player that wants a different game could have just played a different game to begin with.

When I started this is was through a rather large gaming community and the unique challenges in ddo WAS its selling point for us, and in the first few weeks of mod 9 when we still had our guilds around and active we were IMPRESSED that shamans were nuking us for our entire hps in low lvl dungeons or situations in which we'd get stunned feared cursed and tripped in the space of a few seconds, and that traps in this game were actually dangerous yet avoidable through twitchplay, and learning to overcome such obstacles and using strategy to deal with enemy abilities even at beginner levels was refreshing and fun as hell.

We didnt join for the cashop, we joined in spite of it.

[Rice]

Bad players that rely on overpowered consumables via credit card generate far more income than the smart and frugal good player.

They realize this. It's about time we all realize it too.

[Visty]

I dont get why people always blame new players for dumbing down of mechanics. Are these store items actually a result of new players whining about beholders and mummies?.

yes, thats how turbine does their things

look at scaling and grazing hits

[BlackSteel]

I dont get why people always blame new players for dumbing down of mechanics. Are these store items actually a result of new players whining about beholders and mummies? To me its just as likely that Turbine is just trying to put things out that people might buy and seeing what sticks.

Keep in mind that a new player that wants a different game could have just played a different game to begin with.

When I started this is was through a rather large gaming community and the unique challenges in ddo WAS its selling point for us, and in the first few weeks of mod 9 when we still had our guilds around and active we were IMPRESSED that shamans were nuking us for our entire hps in low lvl dungeons or situations in which we'd get stunned feared cursed and tripped in the space of a few seconds, and that traps in this game were actually dangerous yet avoidable through twitchplay, and learning to overcome such obstacles and using strategy to deal with enemy abilities even at beginner levels was refreshing and fun as hell.

We didnt join for the cashop, we joined in spite of it.

aye, but for every one player like you that stayed, another two tried the game, and quit, and on their way out, did one of those exit surveys that get flaunted around as justification for numerous changes

[WestportStan]

Looks like both items are fairly worthless. 10min mummy rot pot.? We all know this is a joke. (it's not a joke, it's real it's just stupid to buy it) I'll just wear my protection and carry some curse post, like a good veteren adventurer should.

The Beholder thing could help out for soloing things like Invaders. Outside of that, seems like it is pretty much a junk item.

[7-day_Trial_Monkey]

As always, if you don't like something in the store, don't buy it. Then absolutely nothing in the game changes for you.

[Lissyl]

Well...I don't think this looks like a valuable use of my points. *shrug*

Seriously...I'm a new player still (why do I get the feeling that I'll be a 'new player' until I have grandchildren? :) ) and ~just yesterday~ I soloed VoN2. Those beholders? Whew...I HATE beholders. I was on my pure caster (naturally) and let me tell you...those buggers are challenging. The first one (the one in the little 'town' past the airblowers) killed me...6? 7 times?

But I figured out how to beat him. And every other one in the quest. I got flagged and ran VoN last night on that character, great time. WORTH EVERY SECOND OF THE CHALLENGE. So please...please...I know its easy to think its all us new players. Its not. Or, at least, its not ~all~ of us. Some of us don't need/want these items any more than you do.

[Teharahma]

You forgot, the part where they give +1150% Guild renown and are level 1 ;-)

On a semi-serious note, I would suggest taking the "Who cares" attitude.

A number of years ago in RL I saw an interesting scene that perhaps illustrates my point.

Hot summer day busy town street and a set of traffic lights. Past the traffic lights is a bit of a drag run 2 lane straight for about 1/4 mile, few side turnings and no lights. A very nice open top European sports car of an older design pulls upto the lights. Beautiful lines, dark grey, driver in his mid 40's I guess. A few moment later another car pulls up. It is of Japanese manufacture, bright yellow, brand new, spoilers and go faster stripes, the Supercharger wheezing away, blacked out windows, music thumping from the 40GW stereo inside and 2 youngish looking youths driving.

So, the Yellow car, begins revving it's engine. The driver in the grey car looks over, contemplates for a moment and the low deep growl of his engine starts to appear. not surprisingly, people stop and stare. The engines rev some more, rev some more and bam, the amber light appears (UK traffic signals) and with a squealing of tires the yellow car tears off down the road.

The driver of the grey car calmly makes a circle with his fingers and thumb and shakes it in the universal sign language for w....... (you know what I mean). and calmly drives off.

The crowd, spontaneously breaks into applause.

Style wins over all in my opinion. It's not what you do, it's how you do it ;-)

Regards
Wolf

+1 for awesome story.
Made a happy feeling inside
Not the pervy one.

[Xyphos3]

Easy button is patented tho, Turbine cannot implement such an item to sell in the cheat shop.

They could however, Start selling `Wish Spells`
where the item is sold as a magic lamp, and when clicked on, brings up a sub-menu of various things;
from `Kill all creatures in dungeon` to `Teleport Idiot` (summon player that is inside the dungeon)

all wish spells come with bad side-effects tho, such as an unremovable anti-healing curse (even on death)
that lasts until you exit the quest, to inducing XP penilties.

as for the anti-beholder jewel, stop complaining, DeathBlock prevents most negitive-effects except from Disintegrate... which is a fortitude save, so if you're a low-fort squishy, you have no bussiness fighting a beholder in the first place.

mummies? disease immunity, get your healer to cast a 500+ pt heal spell on them then sneeze. problem solved.