State Guilds

[srtxcwferg]

Are there any Guilds for Texans only?

[flynnjsw]

Hi Welcome


Do they really allow Texans interwebz access???

Sorry, had to go there...

[NXPlasmid]

Oh oh oh! I want to join. then can say things like giddy up! and Yaw!

Howdy Welcome

[Burtle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyFSdj1J5Vw :D

[shores11]

Are there any Guilds for Texans only?

Not sure about guilds for Texans only but Legends (http://www.Legends.republichost.com) has a large base of Texas players in it and serveral others that are located in CST. However we also have players as far away as Australia in our guild and welcome them with open arms.

[markusthelion]

Question: If Texas had thier own guild, would it be BIGGER & BETTER than every other guild ;)

[sacredtheory]

Question: If Texas had their own guild, would they unite and secede from the game to start their own server?

[cardmj1]

Question: If Texas had their own guild, would they unite and secede from the game to start their own server?

Texas was not apart of the South. When you think Texas, remember the Alamo.

[Arkat]

Texas was not apart of the South. When you think Texas, remember the Alamo.

Incorrect.

Despite Sam Houston's objections, Texas did indeed secede from the Union during the Civil War thus making it part of the South in practice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_in_the_American_Civil_War

[sacredtheory]

Nooooo! Not this argument again. My comment was supposed to be a lulz, not a oh-noes! I'm going back to Ghallanda, I'm causing too much drama in Khyber :-)

[Yuesu]

Texas was not apart of the South. When you think Texas, remember the Alamo.

For those of us that were blessed to be born and raised here in TEXAS, the greatest state in the union, we remember "COME AND TAKE IT!"

[flynnjsw]

For those of us that were blessed to be born and raised here in TEXAS, the greatest state in the union, we remember "COME AND TAKE IT!"

Whatever helps you sleep at night...

[petegunn]

There was a guild on Thelanis called the Rusty Sheriffs Badge, I thought it a tad strange the prereq was male only.

[quietkey0]

Incorrect.

Despite Sam Houston's objections, Texas did indeed secede from the Union during the Civil War thus making it part of the South in practice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_in_the_American_Civil_War

Not exactly part of the South. It was really ALLIED with the south. In reality, Texas simply exercised it's explicitly granted right which was part of the 1845 Treaty of Annexation, when the Republic of Texas (a sovereign nation since 1836 which had been recognized by the US and England in particular) joined the US. As part of the treaty, they were given the explicit right to secede from the US, unlike all of the other states which were NEVER a sovereign country, and were simply created states.

Texans exercised that right, and then the Republic of Texas was ALLIED (read: not a part of, any more than our current ally England is part of the US) with the Confederate States of America. Even though secession was declared unconstitutional on the part of the states, the right to do so if the citizens of Texas chose to was part of the entire REASON that Texas even became part of the US.

Yes, they were on the losing side. Yes, Texas is still a captured nation of war that has been allowed representation. No, Texas did not illegally secede, they did it lawfully according to the agreement made by the US. California and Hawaii were the only other states which were countries prior to their joining the US. California, though, was only a country for a VERY short time, and their entire purpose in creating a country WAS to join the US. Hawaii, of course, for those who've paid attention, was actually apologized to in the 90s for the way we took over there. Never expected the US to admit wrongdoing even from that far back.

Not that it matters much today, Texans are still in many cases dbags. :D (Disclaimer: Lived in Tx for 15 years)

[Arkat]

Not exactly part of the South. It was really ALLIED with the south. In reality, Texas simply exercised it's explicitly granted right which was part of the 1845 Treaty of Annexation, when the Republic of Texas (a sovereign nation since 1836 which had been recognized by the US and England in particular) joined the US. As part of the treaty, they were given the explicit right to secede from the US, unlike all of the other states which were NEVER a sovereign country, and were simply created states.

Texans exercised that right, and then the Republic of Texas was ALLIED (read: not a part of, any more than our current ally England is part of the US) with the Confederate States of America. Even though secession was declared unconstitutional on the part of the states, the right to do so if the citizens of Texas chose to was part of the entire REASON that Texas even became part of the US.


No.

The "treaty" between Texas and the United States does NOT, I repeat, does NOT explicitly give Texas the right to secede from the Union. What it does do, is allow Texas to split up into 4 additional states (total of 5) at any time.

http://politics.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/robert-schlesinger/2009/04/17/texas-secession-perry-one-third-of-texans-are-wrong-texas-cant-secede.html

http://tafkac.org/politics/texas_secession_rights.html


The Texas Constitution also does not explicitly say Texas can secede either.

http://www.texassecede.com/faq.htm






P.S. Texas was actually in the Confederacy. Texas was NOT just allied with the Confederacy, it was part of it! Its date of admission into the Confederacy was March 2, 1861.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_of_America

[Mobeius]

No.

The "treaty" between Texas and the United States does NOT, I repeat, does NOT explicitly give Texas the right to secede from the Union. What it does do, is allows Texas to split up into 4 additional states (total of 5) at any time.

http://politics.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/robert-schlesinger/2009/04/17/texas-secession-perry-one-third-of-texans-are-wrong-texas-cant-secede.html

http://tafkac.org/politics/texas_secession_rights.html


The Texas Constitution also does not explicitly say Texas can secede either.

http://www.texassecede.com/faq.htm

I beleive the splitting in to four states was something they pput in was never recognized by Texas, they been trying to split Texas up in to seperate states for a long time. I recall someone that wrote a book called "The Eyes of Texas" telling me that Texas could seceed from the Union and someone in the Texas senate propossed it every year (at the time, which was a long time ago).

I could and might be wrong, im not that strong of Texas History and that indepth to it. However, I am a Texan (Houston).

[Arkat]

I beleive the splitting in to four states was something they pput in was never recognized by Texas, they been trying to split Texas up in to seperate states for a long time. I recall someone that wrote a book called "The Eyes of Texas" telling me that Texas could seceed from the Union and someone in the Texas senate propossed it every year (at the time, which was a long time ago).

I could and might be wrong, im not that strong of Texas History and that indepth to it. However, I am a Texan (Houston).

Moebius,

Either find this book in your local library or somewhere else:

"The Truth About Texas" by Anne Dingus (IHNW, IJLS "Anne Dingus") ISBN 0-87719-282-0

Oh and just to clarify, Texas, as a condition to join the Union, DID indeed reserve the right to split itself into 4 additional states which means it could split up into a total of 5.



Guys, I'm right about Texas, both in Confederacy membership/being part of the "South" thing and the secession/split into 5 states thing. My mom was from Beaumont and my grandfather was a land and title attorney in Beaumont. Believe me, they knew what was what.

If you don't believe me, I absolutely urge you to at least read my links in my posts above.

[Mobeius]

Hey man not trying to upset ya, was just asking if ya was sure. Because I wasn't and I even said that, its been so long since i was that indepth of Texas history.

but

http://www.texassecede.com/Texas%20Secession%20Facts.pdf

[MeliCat]

At one point in time Australia had a single property that was bigger than the state of Texas :P It was on the corner of SA, NSW and Qld (Cameron's Corner).

I had a friend who told a Texan that once. They were not happy. :D

[Arkat]

Hey man not trying to upset ya, was just asking if ya was sure. Because I wasn't and I even said that, its been so long since i was that indepth of Texas history.

I gotcha Moebius. My statement that you most likely reacted to was directed more at quitekey0 and cardmj1.




but

http://www.texassecede.com/Texas%20Secession%20Facts.pdf

See the third link in response 15 above.

http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=3156614&postcount=15

I was using that FAQ more to show the none of the Texas Constitutions ever said anything about an explicit right to secede.

[Arkat]

Here's more about the Annexation of Texas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Annexation

Note: Texas was never annexed by a proper "treaty." It was annexed by a Joint Resolution of Congress.


Annexation by joint resolution

James K. Polk, a Democrat and a strong supporter of territorial expansion, was elected president in November 1844 with a mandate to acquire both the Republic of Texas and Oregon Country. After the election, the Tyler administration realized that public opinion was in favor of annexation, consulted with President-elect Polk, and set out to accomplish annexation by means of a joint resolution. The resolution declared that Texas would be admitted as a state as long as it approved annexation by 1 January 1846, that it could split itself up into four additional states, and that possession of the Republic’s public lands would shift to the state of Texas upon its admission. On 26 February 1845, six days before Polk took office, Congress passed the joint resolution. Not long afterward, Andrew Jackson Donelson, the American chargé d'affaires in Texas and the nephew of former president Andrew Jackson, presented the American resolution to President Anson Jones of Texas. In July 1845, the Texan Congress endorsed the American annexation offer with only one dissenting vote and began writing a state constitution. The citizens of Texas approved the new constitution and the annexation ordinance in October 1845 and Polk signed the documents formally integrating Texas into the United States on 29 December 1845.



This is also interesting...


Controversy over legality of annexation

The original controversy about the legality of the annexation of Texas stems from the fact that Congress approved the annexation of Texas as a territory with a simple majority vote approval instead of annexing the land by Treaty, as was done with Native American lands. After the United States and The Republic of Texas were unable to reach a Treaty agreement, Congress passed a Joint Resolution for Annexing Texas to the United States. The Republic of Texas' Annexation Convention then submitted the Ordinance of Annexation to popular vote in October 1845 and the public approved the measure. This Ordinance of Annexation was submitted and approved by the House and Senate of the United States and signed by the President on December 29, 1845. While this was an awkward, if not unusual, treaty process it was fully accepted by all parties involved, and more importantly all parties performed on those agreements making them legally binding (see Contract Law). In addition, the United States Supreme Court decided in the case of DeLima v. Bidwell, 182 U.S. 1 (1901), that annexation by a joint resolution of Congress is legal.

End result is the Texas annexation by Joint Resolution was found to be legal.

[zorander6]

Back to the OP's question there may or may not be an all Texas guild (YEE HAW) but you can make one and call it your very own.

[Tholar]

For those of us that were blessed to be born and raised here in TEXAS, the greatest state in the union, we remember "COME AND TAKE IT!"

I've been to Texas, wouldn't it be "Come and Git it!"?

[Yuesu]

I've been to Texas, wouldn't it be "Come and Git it!"?

We had better grammer 200 years ago... :D

or we figured if your gonna flip off an entire country, better use proper grammer... ;)

[Arkat]

...grammer...

/Fail



...grammer...

/Epic Fail

[Yuesu]

/Fail




/Epic Fail


LOL…so there it is…

Let me see if I can bring this down to your “Forrest Gumpian” IQ

Me: Posted about the pride in Texas by writing something about our history “Come and Take It”

Tholar: Pokes fun at me by implying that if its a Texas slogan wouldn’t it be “Come and Git’ It” referring to Larry the Cabal Guys “Git’ R Done” As you should know Larry the Cabal Guy sells himself as a typical Texas Redneck.

Me: Instead of getting offended, I decided to play along, by saying we had a better education system back then. I decided to emphasize my point by misspelling “Grammar” implying we really do have bad grammar here in Texas.

You: Lacking the ability to comprehend any of this was happening and seeing that I misspelled “Grammar” felt the need to show just how smart you are by trying to correct my spelling. TWICE!!!


Well you have to live with yourself every day so I don’t think I need to point out the obvious.

TTFN…DB

[stainer]

Tholar: Pokes fun at me by implying that if its a Texas slogan wouldn’t it be “Come and Git’ It” referring to Larry the Cabal Guys “Git’ R Done” As you should know Larry the Cabal Guy sells himself as a typical Texas Redneck.



Larry the Cable Guy portrays himself as a Nebraska hick, which is very different than a Texas hick. Generally having two more years in Kindergarten sets them apart. The giant "N" on his necklace is for the University of Nebraska. Us Kansans often say that the red "N" on the Huskers football helmets is for "Nowledge"! (knowledge misspelled for those following at home).

I find it is better to just agree with Arkat. You should do the same.

[Arkat]

LOL…so there it is…

Let me see if I can bring this down to your “Forrest Gumpian” IQ

That should be "simple" for you.

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee191/BlackArkat/simplejack.jpg




Me: Posted about the pride in Texas by writing something about our history “Come and Take It”

Tholar: Pokes fun at me by implying that if its a Texas slogan wouldn’t it be “Come and Git’ It” referring to Larry the Cabal Guys “Git’ R Done” As you should know Larry the Cabal Guy sells himself as a typical Texas Redneck.

Me: Instead of getting offended, I decided to play along, by saying we had a better education system back then. I decided to emphasize my point by misspelling “Grammar” implying we really do have bad grammar here in Texas.

You: Lacking the ability to comprehend any of this was happening and seeing that I misspelled “Grammar” felt the need to show just how smart you are by trying to correct my spelling. TWICE!!!

Yes, because you CLEARLY meant to misspell grammar. :rolleyes: (http://you're/so/full/of/$h1t/the/whites/of/your/eyes/are/brown/)



Well you have to live with yourself every day so I don’t think I need to point out the obvious.

Ni Hao HuanYing






Larry the Cable Guy portrays himself as a Nebraska hick, which is very different than a Texas hick. Generally having two more years in Kindergarten sets them apart. The giant "N" on his necklace is for the University of Nebraska. Us Kansans often say that the red "N" on the Huskers football helmets is for "Nowledge"! (knowledge misspelled for those following at home).

Snap!



I find it is better to just agree with Arkat. You should do the same.

So should everyone else! ;)


+1 for stainer

[Uska]

For those of us that were blessed to be born and raised here in TEXAS, the greatest state in the union, we remember "COME AND TAKE IT!"

While I love Texas(Texarkana its twice as nice) I always remember the joke about where the Texan was bragging how big and great Texas was the guy from Alaska said we'll just cut Alaska in half and then we will have two states bigger and better than Texas:)