Opinions on my pure 20 virtuoso/AA build

[Donthorn]

Im trying to make a pure 20 bard thats virtuoso and arcane archer, the build doesnt have spells selected, as im still deciding that, and its enchancements were all done at 20 because it was easier for me to do it like that

Im asking if my cha ends up high enough, should i take precise shot and ips instead of other things, and ect. any input would be appreciated

This is a 32 point build


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Level 20 Neutral Good Elf Male
(20 Bard)
Hit Points: 202
Spell Points: 701
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 7
Reflex: 19
Will: 16

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 12 12
Dexterity 18 24
Constitution 12 12
Intelligence 12 12
Wisdom 8 8
Charisma 15 18

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 8 30
Bluff 2 4
Concentration 5 24
Diplomacy 6 29
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 2 4
Heal -1 -1
Hide 4 7
Intimidate 2 4
Jump 5 24
Listen 2 25
Move Silently 4 7
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform 6 31
Repair 1 1
Search 1 3
Spot -1 1
Swim 1 1
Tumble 5 8
Use Magic Device 6 27

Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 2 (Bard)


Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Rapid Shot


Level 4 (Bard)


Level 5 (Bard)


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 7 (Bard)


Level 8 (Bard)


Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot


Level 10 (Bard)


Level 11 (Bard)


Level 12 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 13 (Bard)


Level 14 (Bard)


Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality


Level 16 (Bard)


Level 17 (Bard)


Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 19 (Bard)


Level 20 (Bard)
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song III
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song IV
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song IV
Enhancement: Bard Music of the Dead
Enhancement: Bard Virtuoso I
Enhancement: Bard Musical Prodigy
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack II
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Bard Perform I
Enhancement: Bard Perform II
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic III
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic IV
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I

[BoBoDaClown]

If you are building an archer bard because you want an archer bard, all good, there is a build (and discussion) about 6 down this page: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=260920

If you want one to be a viable endgame character... it will be very difficult to pull off. (unless the manyshot bug sticks around).

Reasons:
Ranged combat is generally a little lacking - but more so on a character class that gets no real advantages for it. Plus you can't 'dual' spec- like a ranger or kensai for those melee moments.

Your build:
Str: too low
Dex: maybe a little too high
Int: too high
Con: lowish
Cha: too high. You won't be landing CC spells with your Cha and feats, so don't bother pumping cha.

You probably want to end up with evenish dex and str - because you need dex to hit and str to damage.

To do damage with a bow, you need improved precise shot, many shot, improve crit: ranged, and bow strength (you are missing that).

You need toughness and extend. So once you take into account pre-reqs, you are getting real tight, making fighter levels or ranger levels an option.

Force of personality is a waste on the bard class (decent will saves).

:)

[unbongwah]

My build (http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=3107772&postcount=8) has higher ranged DPS (thanks to Bow STR, Imp Crit, & Imp Prec Shot) and a bit more HPs. I do give up spell points, a few spells, and bard capstone, as well as have lower DEX & CHA; but it was worth the sacrifice to be a better AA, IMHO.

I agree with BoBo that your CHA is too high for this build - or rather, it isn't high enough to do your CC spells any good (esp. w/no DC-boosting metamagics like Heighten) and it's a waste of stat points for an AA otherwise. The slight boost to Diplomacy, Perform, UMD, and SPs isn't worth the cost, IMHO.

I wouldn't say your INT is too high so much as I would say you don't need so many ranks of Balance, Jump, and Listen. I would either put those skill points elsewhere (e.g., Haggle, Hide, MS) or lower your INT and put those points into CON instead.