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Valtruin

07-05-2010, 03:06 PM

Greetings! I am Valtruin, the head officer of Epitaph, and I am here to inform you that our guild is looking for members! Well, we are always looking for members hehe, but then again, what guild isn't? We are active, quite active, generally during the day we have about 100ish people on all the time, and during the night about 80ish people on all the time. We are currently looking for active, experienced members who are patient and can help teach the newer players things that we need to know to progress.

If you are interested please tell a Recruiter, or mail/message Shunta or Aises.

Word has been going around that our guild is using new players to get renown then kicking them from the guild. Yet, there is no evidence of us doing so, and the only characters that we have kicked from the guild are level 1-3's that have been inactive for over a week, which we are to assume are either alts or people that have quit the game. We just don't see the point of starting a guild spending a ton of time and money on it then just kicking everyone. What would be the point?

Since people took a disliking to our last Motto, here is our new one.
Our Guild Motto:

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/do-not-challenge-the-gate.jpg

The_Mighty_Cube

07-12-2010, 11:06 AM

Go forth little thread, enjoy a new life!

Oh and for the record, if I have to come back here it will earn those who brought me an automatic banishment.

cdbd3rd

07-12-2010, 11:08 AM

Go forth little thread, enjoy a new life!

Oh and for the record, if I have to come back here it will earn those who brought me an automatic banishment.

Wow. Finished lurking the last page just in time!

/Looks at feet.

Oh, geez. What am I doing in here?!? :eek:

Folonius

07-12-2010, 11:10 AM

Great guild! +1

Yagi

07-12-2010, 12:49 PM

Does this guild actively participate in the new guild-reknown system, and if so how would you rate your efforts and accomplishments vs that of other khyber guilds?

Eladiun

07-12-2010, 12:52 PM

It sounds like you are a large active guild, what raids are you currently running and how often are they run?

uhgungawa

07-12-2010, 12:55 PM

Go forth little thread, enjoy a new life!

Oh and for the record, if I have to come back here it will earn those who brought me an automatic banishment.

LOL, Oh how I will miss the old thread :(

Best of luck on the new one :)

Daemeon

07-12-2010, 02:27 PM

Does this guild actively participate in the new guild-reknown system, and if so how would you rate your efforts and accomplishments vs that of other khyber guilds?

Yes, the guild is very active.

As for rating ourselves against other guilds.. why not join and find out for yourself? :)

Those that must make themselves feel secure by looking how well they are doing compared to others will never be truly secure.

Daemeon

07-12-2010, 02:28 PM

It sounds like you are a large active guild, what raids are you currently running and how often are they run?

The guild is new, and hence we do no seem to have the levels to raid as of yet.

We are in the building phase from what I can see and doing well. The guild is most suited to those that are new or enjoy playing the early game again and would like to play with others that welcome advice and leadership.

NeutronStar

07-12-2010, 02:57 PM

The guild is new, and hence we do no seem to have the levels to raid as of yet.

The guild with the highest membership and the most renown cannot raid yet?

I'm confused. :confused:

Daemeon

07-12-2010, 03:12 PM

The guild with the highest membership and the most renown cannot raid yet?

I'm confused. :confused:

Not very hard to understand really.

We have lots of members and they are very active but not many are of high level so no raiding at this time.

Personally I find the renown concept for guild leveling silly but only because of the name they chose for it.. if it had been called "Activity" then it would make more sense.

NeutronStar

07-12-2010, 03:15 PM

Not very hard to understand really.

We have lots of members and they are very active but not many are of high level so no raiding at this time.

Personally I find the renown concept for guild leveling silly but only because of the name they chose for it.. if it had been called "Activity" then it would make more sense.

Sorry, I thought you got more renown for doing higher and harder quests than doing lower and easier ones.

I guess I was wrong. My bad.

Daemeon

07-12-2010, 05:28 PM

Sorry, I thought you got more renown for doing higher and harder quests than doing lower and easier ones.

I guess I was wrong. My bad.

No bad at all.

There is a reason why lower level quests offer the same rewards of renown as higher level ones. If only the higher level ones offered decent amounts of renown then no guild in their right mind would allow "lowbies" to play since they would cause more renown decay than they could repair...

Daemeon

07-12-2010, 06:48 PM

LOL, Oh how I will miss the old thread :(

Best of luck on the new one :)

Thank you.

So many friendly people in this thread... nice server :)

Raegoul

07-12-2010, 07:01 PM

Word has been going around that our guild is using new players to get renown then kicking them from the guild. Yet, there is no evidence of us doing so, and the only characters that we have kicked from the guild are level 1-3's that have been inactive for over a week, which we are to assume are either alts or people that have quit the game. We just don't see the point of starting a guild spending a ton of time and money on it then just kicking everyone. What would be the benefit?

Why would you put this in your guild advertisement post? It doesnt make sense. I suggest you try again. Perhaps you need some editing.

Daemeon

07-12-2010, 07:21 PM

Why would you put this in your guild advertisement post? It doesnt make sense. I suggest you try again. Perhaps you need some editing.

I think it makes sense. Best way to deal with unfounded accusations is to bring them into the light and refute them up front... but that's just me I guess.

Terelle

07-12-2010, 07:46 PM

Sorry, I thought you got more renown for doing higher and harder quests than doing lower and easier ones.

I guess I was wrong. My bad.

This will be changing in the next patch apparently - elite and epic quests should give higher renown.

Will be interesting to see how this affects the guild rankings.

samthedagger

07-12-2010, 08:37 PM

This will be changing in the next patch apparently - elite and epic quests should give higher renown.

Will be interesting to see how this affects the guild rankings.

I am 99.9% certain that it will be in no way retroactive. If they hurry up and do it fast there might be some sense of justice to it.

/hijack

On topic, how well would you say your guild, being an admittedly new guild, is open to constructive criticism?

cheever77

07-12-2010, 09:23 PM

How can you kick people who have been inactive for a week??

I have some alts that have been inactive for about a month, that has something to do with being focused on a TR or on a particular build.....

May I ask where the incentive is to join your guild as such??

ryingar

07-12-2010, 09:28 PM

Sorry, I thought you got more renown for doing higher and harder quests than doing lower and easier ones.

I guess I was wrong. My bad.

Nope, its just a numbers game. (chests/time)*(number of players)=guild with highest renown points. Its just that simple and has no use in rewarding the most respected guilds out there (for example TA) or the guilds with the greatest number of epic or end game raid completions.

If you want the best airship with all the goodies, then you have to have a medium to large guild. Mostly due to the upkeep(again a sheer numbers game) that is required from the decay (that is supposed to be significant at higher levels)

ryingar

07-12-2010, 09:30 PM

Thank you.

So many friendly people in this thread... nice server :)

/vomit

I think you mistook this for another server

ClericDude

07-12-2010, 09:31 PM

In response to the question of how they take constructive criticism, I'll say it has yet to be tested.

As for how well they deal with criticism, I'd say well. People harass Epitaph all the time and their responses do not consist entirely of curses, so they take it pretty well. Well done, Epitaph.

samthedagger

07-12-2010, 09:39 PM

Daemeon

07-12-2010, 10:30 PM

I am 99.9% certain that it will be in no way retroactive. If they hurry up and do it fast there might be some sense of justice to it.

/hijack

On topic, how well would you say your guild, being an admittedly new guild, is open to constructive criticism?

It is impossible to of course speak for all 1k members (give or take) but what I have seen in guild chat most seem open to advice...

ClericDude

07-12-2010, 11:10 PM

Are you in Epitaph?

Heh, fair question. I'm the guild leader of my own guild - Sad Panda. That said, I'm new enough to be in Epitaph or not emo about them beating my long-standing guild. I judge your response a win.

p.s. My name is Sam, too.

Shaamis

07-12-2010, 11:14 PM

Heh, fair question. I'm the guild leader of my own guild - Sad Panda. That said, I'm new enough to be in Epitaph or not emo about them beating my long-standing guild. I judge your response a win.

p.s. My name is Sam, too.

Nice to meet you Sam. I see Sad Panda around, and all I can think of is the South Park episode.

it makes me smirk and chuckle.

+1

Valtruin

07-12-2010, 11:16 PM

I have been out for a few days, just poppin in here and there to poke around. So I haven't been posting here, and don't think I will be any time soon, it's summer, got things to do, people to see. Beaches to hit.

Just to clarify some things, the guy on page 1 that asked why I would post that and that it doesn't make sense (about the accusations against our guild):
How would you feel, if you had to manage 600 people all day long on a personal basis and you had 500 more asking you if the rumors about your guild are true, and asking for an explanation on that? I would rather they not need to worry and actually ask me for details on the guild rather than details on false rumors about the guild.

Someone else asked why I would boot an inactive that's only been inactive for a week. A level 1 to 3 character being inactive for a week is the equivalent to your 15+ alts being inactive for a month, in my opinion. You could do the Korthos island beginner quests and be halfway to level 3 just from that. Then you could do the Korthos slayer quests, or go to Stormreach and do those quests to level 4 in like an hour, I've done it. It's not hard, and frankly, if a character that takes an hour and a half to level past the levels I kicked is inactive for a week, I am able to assume a couple things, which I stated before since you seemed not to have noticed: 1) They are either a player who has quit the game, or 2) They are an alt that's not going to get used any time soon.

I'm not trying to be mean by so bluntly removing an inactive level 1 from my guild because it's been inactive for a week and I don't see any activity in the near future either, and I apologize to those who might have gone on vacation and can't play their 1, but I am trying to run an active guild and when I hit the player cap 3 times in a single day after 50 people asked me to remove their alts to make room, I decide to clear out the very low level in-actives who have been gone long enough to have made those characters level 10.

Anyway, my eyes hurt from too much swimming and looking at this screen is murdering them. So with this I will see you guys later, I hope this clarifies some things with those who don't understand the situation.

Lazzo

07-13-2010, 08:40 AM

For those envying the not-so-selective guilds' reknowns I say don't hate the player, hate the game.

And who's to say what guild philosophy is 'correct' and what is not?

If a new player refuses to play the characters that the elitists tell them to, they way that they tell them to and is therefore denied access to the high ranked more selective membership guilds, is it not good that they have a way to access guild airships and such? (well I guess some might say no, but my money is as good so they're welcome to their own opininon) If a player is having fun running quests on casual with casual people playing their non-optimized characters the way they want to and dying some in the process, they certainly have the right.

I wish Cannith would have a non-selective high reknown guild. ;-)

Folonius

07-13-2010, 09:39 AM

I agree with this statement, but maybe impose an e-mail a few days before you boot them, stating: "please confirm you will be playing this character, otherwise it will be removed from the roster to allow more active characters into the guild" Or let them know up front the guild policy.

That's how I read it too.

Skani

07-13-2010, 11:28 AM

I wish Cannith would have a non-selective high reknown guild. ;-)

Make one. It's easy :)

Raveneia

07-13-2010, 02:47 PM

Enjoy your summer I'm enjoying my winter via running Epic Raids!

oh and BTW TS is NOT a real raid... :)

ryingar

07-13-2010, 11:18 PM

Heh, fair question. I'm the guild leader of my own guild - Sad Panda. That said, I'm new enough to be in Epitaph or not emo about them beating my long-standing guild. I judge your response a win.

p.s. My name is Sam, too.

Sad panda, reminds me of a movie made by digital playground, Pirates 2

MeliCat

07-13-2010, 11:28 PM

Enjoy your summer I'm enjoying my winter via running Epic Raids!

oh and BTW TS is NOT a real raid... :)

Yeah but it's fun :). And it is good practice for the the types of working together later that are needed.

Ran with a couple of E guys in TS last night. They were ok. Kept telling me how smooth that TS spine run was (I had the star). Personally I found it a little boring 'cos it had none of the usual chaotic pug maddness. :) There were at least 3 backseat leaders in there (didn't pay attention to which guilds)

I managed to horrify I think it was one of the E people telling them that my guildie and I were going to 2 man it but had decided to pug. Next time I lead it I think I'll put "zerg. leaving in 2mins. byo buffs". Much more fun. Except I still get lost in the water bit :) :D

Epitaph are ok. Leave them alone peeps to do their own stuff.

Salguod

07-14-2010, 07:54 PM

I am leader of the Korthos Army guild on argo server and we are a full guild but we have a Korthos Army second division going strong and with plenty of space for new members! they are a lvl 10 guild mostly lvls 1-6 *** a few that are close to 10. as of right now they dont have as many actives on at once as the mother guild but they are only a few days old. korthos army is a lvl 32 nearly 33 guild with many members low lvl but everyone is starting to lvl prety fast, and we kick members after 3 weeks of inactivity or 2 weeks if they are like lvl 1-2 and we need space for a new member wanting to join.

toughguyjoe

07-14-2010, 08:03 PM

Salguod

07-14-2010, 08:44 PM

korthos army already exists on kyber. no we will never leave argo. we could never strike such a blow onto the best server

toughguyjoe

07-15-2010, 04:16 AM

korthos army already exists on kyber. no we will never leave argo. we could never strike such a blow onto the best server

:(

Shaamis

07-15-2010, 07:02 AM

Yeah but it's fun :). And it is good practice for the the types of working together later that are needed.

Ran with a couple of E guys in TS last night. They were ok. Kept telling me how smooth that TS spine run was (I had the star). Personally I found it a little boring 'cos it had none of the usual chaotic pug maddness. :) There were at least 3 backseat leaders in there (didn't pay attention to which guilds)

I managed to horrify I think it was one of the E people telling them that my guildie and I were going to 2 man it but had decided to pug. Next time I lead it I think I'll put "zerg. leaving in 2mins. byo buffs". Much more fun. Except I still get lost in the water bit :) :D

Epitaph are ok. Leave them alone peeps to do their own stuff.

I think during this thread, E has gone through their first, maybe second lifestages.

Time will tell.

flynnjsw

07-15-2010, 07:12 AM

Enjoy your summer I'm enjoying my winter via running Epic Raids!

oh and BTW TS is NOT a real raid... :)

Don't say that near DWF

Shaamis

07-15-2010, 07:28 AM

... we could never strike such a blow onto the best server

I agree with you, Khyber Drama would hit rock bottom if you guys did decide to come onto to the best server (read: Khyber).

;)

Kolvarg

07-15-2010, 04:51 PM

Don't say that near DWF

For sure! I am watching this thread hoping to see if she drops in! :D

Elkaiser

07-15-2010, 05:03 PM

Is there a way to see is any Recruiters of Epitaph are on? I don't feel that shouting "Looking to join Epitaph!" in the Epic Flood called General Chat will be effective way of doing it.

Mattlov

07-16-2010, 03:05 AM

Is there a way to see is any Recruiters of Epitaph are on? I don't feel that shouting "Looking to join Epitaph!" in the Epic Flood called General Chat will be effective way of doing it.

You can whisper or mail one of my characters - Krucifix / Sekkendou , I'll try to get you a invite as quickly as possible.

Black_Arrow

07-18-2010, 02:48 AM

I am immediately leery about joining a guild that even has 600 some odd members. I don't even have three words for these types of guilds I have three letters DRB<---------Reputation precedes itself.

Emili

07-18-2010, 07:03 AM

I am immediately leery about joining a guild that even has 600 some odd members. I don't even have three words for these types of guilds I have three letters DRB<---------Reputation precedes itself.

A guild may mean something different to everyone, after all is nothing more than a collection of people. A collection of people is what you deem it to be however... be it any social organization with purpose, a school, a church, fraternity/sorority...

What you get out of it shall be what you put into it. What you perceive it to be is what you entail the whole to be. While this page off our Fallen Heroes (http://picasaweb.google.com/fallen.heroes.ddo/FallenHeroesMembers#) site be in dire need of update the spirit this page encapsulates has never changed.

Our idea is quite simple in a game we play for entertainment and we play with each other, everyone of us, as such we strive to know every one of us. MMO's are not about the flashy graphics nor aquiring the best pixels, the success, the failures more so comes down to who you shre such with. The guild name means nothing more to me than these are my peers, my equals, my friends, I enjoy every heroes company and do wish they feel likewise.

When I look upon the great guilds of Khyber, past, present and come future this is true of near all of them... their health, success and longevity entail but little - the bonds of friendship, both old, present and those to come.

ryingar

07-19-2010, 09:41 PM

You can whisper or mail one of my characters - Krucifix / Sekkendou , I'll try to get you a invite as quickly as possible.

Ok, lets get this straight. It's a "tell" not a "whisper", at least in this game.

Emili

07-20-2010, 02:17 PM

Ok, lets get this straight. It's a "tell" not a "whisper", at least in this game.
I reserve my "whispers" for other things. ;)

flynnjsw

07-20-2010, 02:20 PM

I reserve my "whispers" for other things. ;)

And this makes you the winningest ever. At everything...:D

Dark_Helmet

07-20-2010, 03:25 PM

A guild may mean something different to everyone, after all is nothing more than a collection of people. A collection of people is what you deem it to be however... be it any social organization with purpose, a school, a church, fraternity/sorority...

http://www.filehurricane.com/viewerthumbnails/716200814149PM_achievement.jpg

Daemeon

07-22-2010, 01:22 PM

http://www.filehurricane.com/viewerthumbnails/716200814149PM_achievement.jpg

Nice...

Very amusing :)

Tourette

07-26-2010, 03:35 PM

They are booted after a week because they are not farming favor, err..., advancing the renown of Epitaph by vanquishing CR 4 foes......

I've had the misfortune of running with some Epitafffs on a TR recently. If it wasn't so painful, it would have been funny.

GL with your guild, whatever its philosophy but I will not be running with you anytime soon.

Fravas

08-02-2010, 11:56 PM

Even if they have a rule where inactive accounts of extreme low level get removed, then so what? It's no worse than kicking people out of your group for being part of a guild you've deemed "dumb" for no logical reason. If anyone removed wants back into the guild, they're welcome to, provided they left on good terms.

You're claiming that anyone (regardless of factors like being a good player, or a friend of yours) that joins the guild become immediately incapable of playing the game well, moments after they join Epitaph? Doesn't that mean you're subjugating the guild to the same unfair views that you're accusing it of giving others? It seems hypocritical to me at least.

I know it's always fashionable to sling mud at success, but you don't have to discredit yourself to do it.

EDIT: For clarity.

LASmog

08-03-2010, 12:48 AM

They are almost a zerg type guild. That is what you get when you open the door and let everyone and anyone in. Quantity does not make up for quality nor experience. Either you accept what it is and move on, as many have, or you can wallow in it and moan about it on the forums. I personally dislike grouping with most of Epitaph just for the fact they seem to have the type of players I don't want to play with, so I move on most times and my advice to you if you are upset is to do the same. Its not worth the ulcer.

As for the kicking, I understand where they are coming from just for the fact they are an open door guild and that means everyone and their grandmother (Hi grandma!) wants to be in for the amenities and people to chat at. If that means they hit guild player limits, which I didn't know existed, while they have people banging at the door to get in and you aren't going to be there to play while others want to be in the guild then you get booted to make room for others, if needed.

My personal advice and opinion to most players is to NOT join Epitaph just because they have too many new players that think they know what they are doing and make life difficult for others. Go find an established guild (unlike mine) with some long term players (unlike me) and you get to learn something useful while playing.

That is my rant for today. Tune in tomorrow when I show you how to bake a delicious gelatinous berry pie using ingredients you have in the bank!

P.S. No cubes were injured in the making of this post.

unscythe

08-03-2010, 01:45 AM

One cube may have taken a liking to the scent and will be *jiggling**jiggling* forward.

Valtruin

08-04-2010, 01:55 AM

Tingle, Tingle, Kooloo-Limpah!

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/assist/images/assist15/assist15_080206b-l.jpg

Come to me, my fairy brothers and sisters! We will dance and cast our magical spell!

Tingle, Tingle, Kooloo-Limpah!

Tingle, Tingle, Kooloo-Limpah!

Tingle, Tingle, Kooloo-Limpah!

Now, brothers and sisters, we have saved Hyrule! Ignore the fellow in the tattered green clothings wielding the bloody sword that just spent the last 9 hours taking down Ganon, he isn't important, what is important is our spell has saved all of Hyrule from Ganon's evil reign!

Tingle, Tingle, Kooloo-Limpah!