Purge policys of inactive members

[Iambeastx]

Ok, so its on my mind a bit lately, more so due to renown decay.
We hit 26 yesterday and half a second later 16,000 was lost to renown decay and we where shunted back to 25 immediately.
We're not attempting to farm renown, though obviously renown is taken over ****** vendor thrash end rewards.
We do have a purge policy of 3 months inactive = boot.
I'd be open to a more strict policy except for the fact we do have a lot of army folk and sometimes they are forced to be inactive for long periods (these are good people we want to keep with us) and any that do get booted have no problems returning to us.

I'm just curious what, if any, policy's other guilds have?

[Eladiun]

We went to 2 months without notice or cause and I'm thinking of moving a mule into a holding guild for folks who are inactive with cause. We try to announce a few days in advance for everyone to log in their unused alts to reset their timers.

[Future]

Since 2006, It has always been Bane's policy to have a clean guild roster. We boot after ONE month. On our website members can let us know if they are going on business trips, vacations or just taking a break and we would leave them on the roster until they return. But since decay, we are booting after a month, regardless.

[Goldeneye]

I think 1-2 months is proper. Exceptions should be made if a player knows that they are coming back, or knows how long of a break they are taking.

[werk]

2 months without notice is usually all I can stand.

We have a forum and just ask for a post, but still people poof.


We also keep a current roster, it allows us to manage membership at a player level, and any toons not on the roster gets booted.

[dasein18]

This is one reason to have a guild website & an updated roster. You can check your list and see who has been inactive for a long time. Maybe it is an alt of yours? Should you boot the alt cause they do not use that alt but play on their main? Boot just because of reknown decay? So you lose your pratice dummy? Maybe I need to re-read the reknown stuff but does not seem that great to start kicking folks out of guild for being off for a month or two. Then again if your guild members agree to this approach then you are fine.

We made a decision to not modify how we play or run our guild due to the guild reknown system. We do ask folks to update the guild roster. If not on the roster, then that alt can get booted. If you plan to take a long break, let the guild know, but we will NOT boot folks who are taking a break. We talked within our guild and we all agreed on this policy.

I have 12 toons. Currently run my TR 90% of the time. Some toons have not touched for months. Will people have to keep their lesser used toons in personal guilds due to reknown decay? If ever got to that extreme would be a fail of the system and could create some drama for your guild.

[Iambeastx]

With renown decay based on accounts and not alts and with keeping in our more friendly and easy going atmosphere in claw, we're gonna leave it at 3 months.
The other issue of course is the whole max 1000 characters in a guild but thats 200 characters away.

[AyumiAmakusa]

1 month inactivity without reason will get the boot. However, I send them an in-game mail guild invite in case they re-join, and this gives them an extra 3 or so weeks. If the mail disappears and they don't re-join the guild, there's still the option of Re-applying on our website which they were required to join in the beginning (if they bother to look for it). If all these 'allowances' fail, then they pretty much deserve to be booted.

[mediocresurgeon]

My guild considered it a badge of honor to have dozens of characters that have been inactive for 3+ years (some of which hit the 4 year mark).

Now we boot characters after 6 months of inactivity.

[Renegade66]

With renown decay based on accounts and not alts . . .

I have yet to see this be stated as a fact. Please post link. So far, all I've seen is the leaderboard that lists number of alts and not number of accounts.

[Goldeneye]

I wish it was based on accounts - would be more fair.
However, I don't think that's the case.

[Eladiun]

I have yet to see this be stated as a fact. Please post link. So far, all I've seen is the leaderboard that lists number of alts and not number of accounts.


A quick response:

- We do owe you guys a dev diary explaining some of the mechanics. We intended to do this by launch of Update 5 and we're seriously behind. My apologies.

- Guild decay is based on number of accounts. Players, not characters.

- It was our original intention to only use the # of active accounts, but it wasn't implemented that way unfortunately. It proved to be a lot more difficult than we thought. I hope we can change this (for all the obvious reasons), but the truth is we simply don't know at this point and cannot promise anything.

- A large drop in decay occurred because of a bug. We've tweaked the rates to mitigate this until we issue a patch.

- We have a LOT of tweaking to do. Getting the balance on this isn't easy. As such we won't be releasing actual numbers (because they're going to keep changing for the forseeable future), but that doesn't mean we can't make the mechanics more transparent.

- The mechanics for small guilds aren't working correctly at the moment. Small guilds should be progressing much faster than we're seeing now. This will be addressed in a patch.


Good thread.

There ya go...

[phillymiket]

9 months with no activity.

[Iambeastx]

was looking for link to actual post but the previous response should suffice

[Eladiun]

was looking for link to actual post but the previous response should suffice


Click on the little arrow http://cdn.content.turbine.com/sites/forums.ddo.com/images/buttons/red/viewpost.gif (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=3119431#post3119431) near the name.

[zorander6]

Since there are only four people in my guild and I know all of us personally, (except myself, don't ask) I don't kick alts. Have kicked a couple people that were recruited and were idle over a month and we haven't recruited any newer members recently.

[Eladiun]

was looking for link to actual post but the previous response should suffice


Click on the little arrow http://cdn.content.turbine.com/sites/forums.ddo.com/images/buttons/red/viewpost.gif (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=3119431#post3119431) near the name.


I almost forgot....

Hi Welcome

[Iambeastx]

Click on the little arrow http://cdn.content.turbine.com/sites/forums.ddo.com/images/buttons/red/viewpost.gif (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=3119431#post3119431) near the name.

Oh HI!!!

Yea i was referring to me actually looking for it and linking it whereas you did it for me :P

[Eladiun]

Oh HI!!!

Yea i was referring to me actually looking for it and linking it whereas you did it for me :P


Ahhh... I retract my Hi Welcome. ;)

[Renegade66]

There ya go...

Thank you sir.

[Eladiun]

Your Very Welcome

[Grosbeak07]

For KoTSD we boot after 6 months, but not without warning. On rare occasions people asked to remain guilded. I don't have a problem with that.

However we are discussing moving it up to 3 months inactive, to keep our guild roster somewhat cleaner.

[Musashiclaw]

As long as you set the right expectations its easy to reguild people after they come back. Most of us have guild websites and we can keep track of those who go on extended breaks easy there