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Thechemicals
07-07-2010, 11:56 AM
HI 2 week noob here. I have about 70 hours clocked in with a level 4 bard and a level 6 pal/lvl 1rogue.
This is what i want to see from most important to me to least:
1. Lag spikes. Ive experienced severe and constant lag spikes on cannith,argo,Kyhber. My connection is cable and my computer runs bfbc2 at 70fps. I get 8 fps on lowest settings incity and 1-45 fps in dungeons. This is my most important issue with ddo. Its not an mmo thing because ive played aoc,wow,ultima, and didnt experience these things as regularly as i do here
2. Quests are hard to read. If a skin is available i can maybe change the fonts. Right now quest reading is an eyesore and reading is painful. One day, a company with lots of funding will make all audio quests so you can still know what quest is about, as your party rushes into the dungeon.
3. Innovate the grouping section. I look at the grouping screen and see Guild advertising and people who didnt put a quest or description beyond lfg. Some simple restrictions can make the grouping section something other than a commercial board.
4. Rogues have intimidate as a main skill while paladins do not.Rogues seem to be stapled in as a second class too often. This can be argued forever but ultimatly only one of the 2 classess has the armor and shield to call a monster out. The other is stealth and guile and assassination. Im upset that i had to stain my paladin class with a rogue. I could have gone fighter instead but the bonus skill points in rogue make it almost always a staple class with w/e you class you have.
5. Double main boss HP and improve there Armor in Elite quests level 4 and up. Elite bossess going down seconds after they are encountered is silly. Elite questing should Challenge healers, tanks, and dps. So many elite quests right now are untanked and most times no pressure on healing, Just a bunch of people using mass dps without a worry in the world about taking damage, getting aggro, or dying.
6. Make raids a challenge. I havent been in a raid yet but i have seen over 7 videos of guys soloing Raids by themselves. This is not right.
Nezichiend
07-07-2010, 12:06 PM
HI 2 week noob here. I have about 70 hours clocked in with a level 4 bard and a level 6 pal/lvl 1rogue.
This is what i want to see from most important to me to least:
1. Lag spikes. Ive experienced severe and constant lag spikes on cannith,argo,Kyhber. My connection is cable and my computer runs bfbc2 at 70fps. I get 8 fps on lowest settings incity and 1-45 fps in dungeons. This is my most important issue with ddo. Its not an mmo thing because ive played aoc,wow,ultima, and didnt experience these things as regularly as i do here
2. Quests are hard to read. If a skin is available i can maybe change the fonts. Right now quest reading is an eyesore and reading is painful. One day, a company with lots of funding will make all audio quests so you can still know what quest is about, as your party rushes into the dungeon.
3. Innovate the grouping section. I look at the grouping screen and see Guild advertising and people who didnt put a quest or description beyond lfg. Some simple restrictions can make the grouping section something other than a commercial board.
4. Rogues have intimidate as a main skill while paladins do not.Rogues seem to be stapled in as a second class too often. This can be argued forever but ultimatly only one of the 2 classess has the armor and shield to call a monster out. The other is stealth and guile and assassination. Im upset that i had to stain my paladin class with a rogue. I could have gone fighter instead but the bonus skill points in rogue make it almost always a staple class with w/e you class you have.
5. Double main boss HP and improve there Armor in Elite quests level 4 and up. Elite bossess going down seconds after they are encountered is silly. Elite questing should Challenge healers, tanks, and dps. So many elite quests right now are untanked and most times no pressure on healing, Just a bunch of people using mass dps without a worry in the world about taking damage, getting aggro, or dying.
6. Make raids a challenge. I havent been in a raid yet but i have seen over 7 videos of guys soloing Raids by themselves. This is not right.
1. Hmm seems like a hardware issue to me, I would check your video card settings and maybe change them. Maybe DDO just doesn't like your rig, although I have no clue what you are using
2. Yea I guess, I don't really mind because I never read anyways ;)
3. When you get to high levels, no LFMs will be advertising for a guild and almost all will at least have what quest they are running. Advertising for a guild in the LFM panel is against the rules and you can be banned for it, the same goes for trading.
4. Part of the rules of the game! Rogues are a master of skills and know how to influence people, weather that is diplo or intim. Don't worry, if you take another rogue level you can get evasion, which is helpful for an intim tank, which you seem to be.
5. Depends on the level of quest and the level of the party. Trust me, get to lvl 20 and go run some Amrath stuff on Elite with noobs and you will not win.
6. Raids. Probably what you have seen are level 20 characters solo'ing raids about 6 levels below them. Just because someone CAN solo it does NOT mean that if you take a raid of poorly equipped/ built toons, it will be easy. Most people who solo high-lvl raids are very well equip'd and have many mana potions and are designed to be able to solo something like that.
Thechemicals
07-07-2010, 01:09 PM
1. Hmm seems like a hardware issue to me, I would check your video card settings and maybe change them. Maybe DDO just doesn't like your rig, although I have no clue what you are using
2. Yea I guess, I don't really mind because I never read anyways ;)
3. When you get to high levels, no LFMs will be advertising for a guild and almost all will at least have what quest they are running. Advertising for a guild in the LFM panel is against the rules and you can be banned for it, the same goes for trading.
4. Part of the rules of the game! Rogues are a master of skills and know how to influence people, weather that is diplo or intim. Don't worry, if you take another rogue level you can get evasion, which is helpful for an intim tank, which you seem to be.
5. Depends on the level of quest and the level of the party. Trust me, get to lvl 20 and go run some Amrath stuff on Elite with noobs and you will not win.
6. Raids. Probably what you have seen are level 20 characters solo'ing raids about 6 levels below them. Just because someone CAN solo it does NOT mean that if you take a raid of poorly equipped/ built toons, it will be easy. Most people who solo high-lvl raids are very well equip'd and have many mana potions and are designed to be able to solo something like that.
1. I have a quadcore chip, 6g ram, and a 260 gts oc. Im using windows 7 ultimate. The game is 4 yrs old so i dont...
2. Yeh i dont read also but sometimes i do if a quest looks interesting.
3. Good to hear
4. Yeh 2 sides to every story. Paladins should have intimidate or the rightiouness ability should work like it.
5. good to hear this at level 20. at level 4-10 everything seems to just get owned on elite and noone is doing anything but massive dps.
6. I dont know, i dont think soloing a raid should ever be possible with just one person. Even a low level raid but i see your point.
KKDragonLord
07-07-2010, 01:56 PM
6. I dont know, i dont think soloing a raid should ever be possible with just one person. Even a low level raid but i see your point.
1st, DDO is different, its not possible in most other games, but this one has a different set of rules and this is a part of it
2nd, Seeing it Done by Someone does not mean its Easy, or that it doesn't require a huge investment and a lot of skill. Just because other people did it once or twice, it doesnt mean its something that happens with any regularity.
Thechemicals
07-07-2010, 02:43 PM
1st, DDO is different, its not possible in most other games, but this one has a different set of rules and this is a part of it
2nd, Seeing it Done by Someone does not mean its Easy, or that it doesn't require a huge investment and a lot of skill. Just because other people did it once or twice, it doesnt mean its something that happens with any regularity.
thanks for your feedback. Im not comparing DDO to anything. A raid is an instance for a large group of players. Whether it is difficult or time consuming and requiring alot of resources for a solo player is besides the point. A raid is a place where youll need to use Teamwork and almost always, have to use a series of actions that are class specific. Someone entering a raid instance by himself and succeeding in healing, traps, Tanking, dps, and Support buffing himself means something is not right with the raid or something is not right with the character.
Anyone completing a raid alone, even if its a low level one, degrades the accomplishment of that raid when it is done by a group of people. "You did it with 10 people? Nice, i did it by myself". Degrading that achievement reduces the factor of team and overall just makes the raid instance look weak.
Vynnt
07-07-2010, 04:04 PM
There is a lot of easier raids and hard raids. Some raids it would be practically impossible to do solo, and might require a setup like you are suggesting. The videos you saw were probably VoDs, while it is a tough raid, highly geared divines or crazy AC melee can solo it, but its not commonplace.
KKDragonLord
07-07-2010, 04:21 PM
thanks for your feedback. Im not comparing DDO to anything. A raid is an instance for a large group of players. Whether it is difficult or time consuming and requiring alot of resources for a solo player is besides the point. A raid is a place where youll need to use Teamwork and almost always, have to use a series of actions that are class specific. Someone entering a raid instance by himself and succeeding in healing, traps, Tanking, dps, and Support buffing himself means something is not right with the raid or something is not right with the character.
Anyone completing a raid alone, even if its a low level one, degrades the accomplishment of that raid when it is done by a group of people. "You did it with 10 people? Nice, i did it by myself". Degrading that achievement reduces the factor of team and overall just makes the raid instance look weak.
You are welcome, that point of view is precisely what i was referring to. Your interpretation of it is skewed and does not consider all the factors that are involved in the accomplishment of soloing a raid, i suggest you try it once and then see if its really something that "degrades" its value, considering All the factors involved, including the level range.
DDO is different because it allows for players to make their own builds, the combat style of the game emphasizes the value of player skill above all else, to even be possible to get that far on a single character demands nothing but the best equipment and the intelligent use of resources.
Higher level raids are obviously more difficult than lower level ones, there is no comparison to that. I think its actually a good thing that obstinate players can single handed achieve success in raids like VoD where groups fail at an alarming rate because of poor teamplay and resource management.
HumanJHawkins
07-07-2010, 05:01 PM
1. Lag spikes. Ive experienced severe and constant lag spikes on cannith,argo,Kyhber. My connection is cable and my computer runs bfbc2 at 70fps. I get 8 fps on lowest settings incity and 1-45 fps in dungeons. This is my most important issue with ddo. Its not an mmo thing because ive played aoc,wow,ultima, and didnt experience these things as regularly as i do here
You might be getting hit by a bug I also experienced. The fix is to set your max frame rate to 60 or so.
If you are using an LCD monitor (who isn't these days), then you can set the monitor refresh rate to 60 and tell the game to sync with refresh rate. Because of the way LCD technology works, this will not reduce the quality, nor will it introduce flicker.
Finally, you may be able to set the graphics settings to high or even ultra (forget what the options are), but then turn off video post effects.
I think tinkering with graphics settings will fix your lag issue. Good luck.
gott_ist_tot
07-07-2010, 05:29 PM
I'm all for having to select a quest for the lfm. Except sometimes a quest is chosen, description says another quest, and people are in third.
And the quest list loads 20% of the time. Probably has to make a roll against your spell resistance to load at all.
Thechemicals
07-08-2010, 10:09 AM
I'm all for having to select a quest for the lfm. Except sometimes a quest is chosen, description says another quest, and people are in third.
And the quest list loads 20% of the time. Probably has to make a roll against your spell resistance to load at all.
One problem i had with the quest board happened around 130 in the morning, i was tired, and wanted to do one more quest before bed. The group had 2 people in it lvl 9's and i was 7 so i joined but it seemed that the last 2 players that joined, one was lvl 11. I ended up getting zero xp for a 22 minute quest. I dont know that this is a problem that needs fixing and i should have been aware of what levels joined the party but it was one of those things that happens everynow and then to me- travelling with high level players that give me no exp or very little
Thechemicals
07-08-2010, 10:29 AM
You are welcome, that point of view is precisely what i was referring to. Your interpretation of it is skewed and does not consider all the factors that are involved in the accomplishment of soloing a raid, i suggest you try it once and then see if its really something that "degrades" its value, considering All the factors involved, including the level range.
DDO is different because it allows for players to make their own builds, the combat style of the game emphasizes the value of player skill above all else, to even be possible to get that far on a single character demands nothing but the best equipment and the intelligent use of resources.
Higher level raids are obviously more difficult than lower level ones, there is no comparison to that. I think its actually a good thing that obstinate players can single handed achieve success in raids like VoD where groups fail at an alarming rate because of poor teamplay and resource management.
This isnt about the factors of soloing a raid. I cant skew something that is a recognized word "Raid" defined as a group of players larger than a party with a raid leader. DDO hasnt redefined raids because soloing a raid isnt something the designers had in mind. Again, soloing a raid, regardless if the guy used maximum effort, a perfect build, or exploiting, just isnt right. A raid being designed for a raid party and then later to be solo'd is a pity. Raids are something to be proud of and have a sense of accomplishment "as a team" for using teamwork to defeat the odds. A screenshot of 12 raid players around a dragon shows you worked together to beat the dungeon. A screenshot of one guy doing the same thing by himself shows anyone can do it with enough work put into doing it.
Id like to say this is my opinion but if a raid can be done by one person than it has problems. The DDO world has endless places for solo play and the raid is supposed to be the exception to this.
rdasca
07-08-2010, 10:44 AM
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Id like to say this is my opinion but if a raid can be done by one person than it has problems. The DDO world has endless places for solo play and the raid is supposed to be the exception to this.
This happens, when it happens to me, I normally say "sorry, I am running for xp, later guys" and drop group, its not nice but I really don't have time to run quest over and over for zero xp. Now if I am grinding for favor, I do not care who joins me or who I join, of course I tend to put the lfm up in the first place. :)
Just keep playing as you level it gets better for the most part.
azrael4h
07-08-2010, 10:09 PM
HI 2 week noob here. I have about 70 hours clocked in with a level 4 bard and a level 6 pal/lvl 1rogue.
This is what i want to see from most important to me to least:
1. Lag spikes. Ive experienced severe and constant lag spikes on cannith,argo,Kyhber. My connection is cable and my computer runs bfbc2 at 70fps. I get 8 fps on lowest settings incity and 1-45 fps in dungeons. This is my most important issue with ddo. Its not an mmo thing because ive played aoc,wow,ultima, and didnt experience these things as regularly as i do here
DDO's devs added an increased amount of lag along with everything else in U5. I have the same issue, and did not have any issues prior to U5. In fact, Sunday before, I played several hours without a bit of lag. Monday, after updating, was painful. My computer remains the same, my internet remains the same. Yet I'm getting a lot of lag. The netword icon shows a lot of loss, and a ping about 40-50ms higher than normal.
2. Quests are hard to read. If a skin is available i can maybe change the fonts. Right now quest reading is an eyesore and reading is painful. One day, a company with lots of funding will make all audio quests so you can still know what quest is about, as your party rushes into the dungeon.
What resolution are you on? I had a little trouble when I was on my laptop, prior to getting glasses. On my desktop, I have no troubles.
3. Innovate the grouping section. I look at the grouping screen and see Guild advertising and people who didnt put a quest or description beyond lfg. Some simple restrictions can make the grouping section something other than a commercial board.
Welcome to U5, where mass guild recruiting for renown runs only to kick most of the new players from the guild once you hit the elvel you wanted is normal.
4. Rogues have intimidate as a main skill while paladins do not.Rogues seem to be stapled in as a second class too often. This can be argued forever but ultimatly only one of the 2 classess has the armor and shield to call a monster out. The other is stealth and guile and assassination. Im upset that i had to stain my paladin class with a rogue. I could have gone fighter instead but the bonus skill points in rogue make it almost always a staple class with w/e you class you have.
Paladins have not go intimidate because they did not in PnP. And you had no reason to splash a level of rogue, even for Intim. In fact, there is little reason for a Paladin to splash Rogue. Two levels of Rogue may get Evasion, but then so would two levels of Monk, which mesh better with the Paladin's core abilities, and give extra feats.
My Paladin holds Aggro just fine without even bothering to intimidate. A guildie has two Paladins, one a S&B tank, the other a TWF dps build. Both hold aggro fine, and at least the twf one has no problems using Intimidate, even as a cross-class skill.
6. Make raids a challenge. I havent been in a raid yet but i have seen over 7 videos of guys soloing Raids by themselves. This is not right.
In DDO, classes are not bound into strict roles. Clerics are not just healers, Sorcerers can do more than nuke, Rangers do far more than just shoot a bow.And, if you feel like it, you can even mix Ranger, Cleric, and Sorcerer levels into a mesh of what-the-hell-is-that. I wouldn't recommend it, but the option is there.
An example is my Elven Ranger, who is better with traps than the Rogues that three guildies occasionally run. She also matches dps to any of the fighters, and can even do moderate damage at a distance with a bow. She's also healed herself through many many quests, and has stepped up and made more than one Cleric's life easier.
7 videos isn't much, maybe you should actually try to solo a raid. Many of those players are veterans, with twinked out gear, and fore-knowledge of the raid. And they're very good to boot. Most everything that can be soloed has been in this game. That don't make it easy, fast, or cheap.
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