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Bonegrin
05-27-2010, 08:05 PM
I have been gone for quite some time, back when 14 was the cap and the WF Titan was the tops. Anyway, going to throw my build here and see whats what. I have read some of the forums and have an idea of whats being done now so will explain what I like.

I have a pure dwarven warrior lvl 14. He specialized in TWF and 2 Handers and started with high Str, high Dx build and all the armor mastery's to get the dex bonus. I kinda like that idea still and wonder if that kind of build is still viable? Or what I should change? I know there are some new feats/skills etc out there also. Anyway here is what I am currently at level 14

Str: 31 (21 Base, +1 Inh Bonus, +3 Feat, +6 Enchant)
Dex: 24 (17 Base, +1 Inh Bonus, +6 Enchant)
Con: 13 (11 Base, +1 Inh Bonus, +1 Feat)
Int: 8
Wis: 16 (10 Base, +1 Inh Bonus, +5 Ench)
Char: 6

Feats: Dodge, Gr 2HF, Gr 2WF, Gr Weap Foc Slash, Gr Weap Spec Sl, Imp Crit Sl, Imp 2HF, Imp 2WF, 2HF, 2WF, 2W Def, Weap Foc: Sl, Weapon Spec: Slash

Enhancments: Dwarven Arm Mast 1-3, Dwf Axe Att 1-2, Dwf Axe Dam 1-2, Dwf Con 1, Dwf Spell Def 1-3, Ftr Arm Mast 1-3, Stat: Str 1-3

As you can see I took all the armor masteries to get the -7 to AC in Adam Full Plate (at the time it was nice). And I have bunches and bunches of dwarven war axes and 2 handed Axes of all kinds that were really good at the time. Anyway, any advice on how I should proceed? Or should I just start from scratch? Is having a 2 hander and a 2 weapon fighter in one warrior not feasible now?

Thanks for any advice.

Bonegrin
05-29-2010, 05:06 PM
Lets see if this works better. I wanted to see if I couldn't get 2 hander and 2 weapon feats in there since we have more than enough. Any thoughts?

Also the original stats are the way they are because thats what I am at 15 and don't want to go back and redo the whole thing so stats stay.



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Level 20 Chaotic Good Dwarf Male
(20 Fighter)
Hit Points: 260
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 9
Will: 6

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Strength 17 22 25
Dexterity 17 17 17
Constitution 14 14 14
Intelligence 8 8 8
Wisdom 10 10 10
Charisma 6 6 6

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Balance 5 14 18
Bluff -2 -2 1
Concentration 2 2 5
Diplomacy -2 -2 1
Disable Device n/a n/a n/a
Haggle -2 -2 -2
Heal 0 0 0
Hide 3 3 3
Intimidate -2 -2 1
Jump 3 7 7
Listen 0 0 0
Move Silently 3 3 3
Open Lock n/a n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a n/a
Repair -1 -1 -1
Search -1 -1 1
Spot 0 0 0
Swim 3 7 7
Tumble n/a n/a n/a
Use Magic Device n/a n/a n/a

Level 1 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stability
Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stonecutting
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Dwarven Waraxe
Feat: (Automatic) Giant Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Orc and Goblin Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Poison Save Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Spell Save Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Dwarven Armor Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I


Level 2 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I


Level 3 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery I


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) I


Level 5 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Enhancement: Dwarven Armor Mastery II


Level 6 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I


Level 7 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I
Enhancement: Kensei Dwarven Waraxe Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Dwarven Waraxe Specialization I


Level 9 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy III


Level 10 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost III


Level 11 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Enhancement: Fighter Strength III


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Kensei Dwarven Waraxe Mastery II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II


Level 13 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery II


Level 14 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting


Level 15 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Quick Draw
Enhancement: Dwarven Armor Mastery III


Level 16 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Superior Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery III


Level 17 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Enhancement: Fighter Dwarven Waraxe Specialization II


Level 18 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Weapon Defense
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack II
Enhancement: Kensei Dwarven Waraxe Mastery III
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei III


Level 19 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage II


Level 20 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Critical
Enhancement: Fighter Weapon Alacrity
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) II

Skull_49
05-29-2010, 05:35 PM
i would pick one eithor thf OR TWF and use you other feats to benefit you more as in all the slashing enhancers for to hit and to damage plus if you have a high cha vs wis you could take force of personality

Bonegrin
05-29-2010, 05:54 PM
i would pick one eithor thf OR TWF and use you other feats to benefit you more as in all the slashing enhancers for to hit and to damage plus if you have a high cha vs wis you could take force of personality

I got all of the slashing enhancers and I have a 6 charisma.

Eladiun
05-29-2010, 06:09 PM
Lets see if this works better. I wanted to see if I couldn't get 2 hander and 2 weapon feats in there since we have more than enough. Any thoughts?


Why? Under what circumstances would you use it or find it valuable? I get the idea that it sounds cool but in play when will it help. You pass on feats that would help round your character out for ones that will likely get little to no use.

You don't have Toughness so your HP will be low.
You don't have Power Attack so you lose damage.

More importantly you lose all the bonus Kensei and Racial DA damage when switching to a Two Hander.

AC is also a hard road now...requiring a lot of farming of raid gear.

Quick Draw is less than useless.

I strongly suggest going one way or the other but with Lesser Reincarnation you can find out for yourself.

Bonegrin
05-29-2010, 06:14 PM
Why? Under what circumstances would you use it or find it valuable?

You don't have Toughness so your HP will be low.
You don't have Power attack so you lose damage.

More importantly you lose all the bonus Kensei and Racial DA damage when switching to a Two Hander.

AC is also a hard road now...requiring a lot of farming of raid gear.

This is what I was looking for. I had extra feats so used them on 2 handers (of which I have a ton of two handed axes). So 2 handers simply don't do the damage of TWF now? If so I can go pure TWF. I actually had it made to where I selected just the twf stuff and had selected toughness for all the "off" feats. Of which there are a ton. Should I even go for AC? Stuff like Dodge and TWF defense? If not I can just pile on the toughness I guess. Which is more important now? trying for HP or going for AC? The whole purpose of this guy orginally was going for the Armor Mastery stuff (all 6) to get the -7 to AC with adamantine full plate.

EustaceTrevelyan
06-10-2010, 04:11 PM
This is what I was looking for. I had extra feats so used them on 2 handers (of which I have a ton of two handed axes). So 2 handers simply don't do the damage of TWF now? If so I can go pure TWF. I actually had it made to where I selected just the twf stuff and had selected toughness for all the "off" feats. Of which there are a ton. Should I even go for AC? Stuff like Dodge and TWF defense? If not I can just pile on the toughness I guess. Which is more important now? trying for HP or going for AC? The whole purpose of this guy orginally was going for the Armor Mastery stuff (all 6) to get the -7 to AC with adamantine full plate.


You definitely need a certain level of HP, some people end up taking toughness multiple times, lol. (Not that I recommend it +/-). For AC, you need to build for it, gear and feats to be really useful beyond mid levels. You can max AC or DPS, but not both. As for damage TWF/THF, take a look at the following before you make a decision (and prolly wait till whatever they stick with hits live and gets taken around the block. Don't get your hopes up about them changing things w/r/t the effect on lag, the change is about nerfing, since TWF is OP end game, esp w/GS. The lag thing is there to make it seem like a necessary evil. Which perhaps it is, just not a lag-related one;)

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=251248