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PointyRhiana
05-26-2010, 04:44 AM
Except I'm REALLY clueless, considering that I played for maybe 15 minutes total, as a ranger which will be scrapped, as I don't feel comfortable playing a ranged char with the battle system. At least, not until I learn to move around properly.

So, I read this huge post that sounds like just what I want... but how do I do it? I'll quote it here and interject my questions. Hopefully, someone will take the time to answer. I was really impressed by the community in-game :D


The Dark Blade (http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Path:The_Dark_Blade) (L19 Rogue/L1 Fighter)

Concept: Good damage dealer, decent survivability, and of course able to take care of traps and locks.
Original path's flaws: No Power Attack (leading to a serious lack of DPS when unable to sneak attack), no Toughness (rogues are somewhat squishy), Weapon Focus instead of Oversized Two-Weapon Fighting (the latter gives an extra +1 to-hit in the common situation of dual wielding non light weapons).
Main fixes: Revised feats for better damage output and survivability.

Multi-class progression (http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=2802884&postcount=18) <- click for more info: Create your character as a Rogue, then take your second level as Fighter, then levels 3 to 20 as Rogue.
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral, Chaotic Good, Neutral, Neutral Good, Lawful Neutral, Lawful Good


How does this multiclass thing work? I mean, I understand it gets you abilities/skills/w/e from other classes, but how do I do it? In this specific example, how do I do it?

I start as a Elf Rogue. Do that first dungeon, get some kills, explore some. I reach level 2. What do I do now? Talk to the Fighter trainer and tell him to advance me there?



Skills (except Human and Drow): Max Search, Disable Device, UMD, Open Locks, Spot, Balance, Diplomacy, Hide, Move Silently. Split your remaining points equally between Jump and Tumble. On your Fighter level you will not have enough skill points for everything, so invest them in some of the skills above (making sure you do not end up with an extra .5 in any skill - spending a point in another Fighter skill if necessary), then catch up on your next rogue levels (do not spend points in Jump, Tumble or Balance until after all other skills are back to max score, and max out first the first skills listed).
Skills (Human and Drow): Same, but you should be able to get both Jump and Tumble instead of splitting points between them.



Ok. I only got one level in that char I played, and I did not do anything with skills. When/how do I get skills/skill points? I should be able to follow this after I know where I get them. I imagine I'll understand what UMD is, too :D




Enhancements (Elf): Aerenal Melee Attack I, Aerenal Melee Damage I, Dexterity I, Enchantment Resistance I, Perception I, Racial Toughness II

These are from the class trainer, right? When do I get the points or experience I need for these? At level up? Or is there a separate exp thing for them?

A few more questions:

What world should I make my char in? I chose the G one for my first char, Gallang-something-ish, since it was at the top. Does this follow the "top is newest/most used" rule that is in most free MMOs? I'd prefer to play when there are more people online, for party-forming and chatting, and am in a GMT+2 timezone.

Thanks for reading and for any advice you might choose to offer :D And for not killing me when I inevitably mess it up and come crying that it didn't work ;)

Kepli_Moonshadow
05-26-2010, 04:55 AM
I was really impressed by the community in-game :D

Welcome to DDO! Glad you are enjoying yourself!

How does this multiclass thing work? I mean, I understand it gets you abilities/skills/w/e from other classes, but how do I do it? In this specific example, how do I do it?

I start as a Elf Rogue. Do that first dungeon, get some kills, explore some. I reach level 2. What do I do now? Talk to the Fighter trainer and tell him to advance me there?

You betcha

Ok. I only got one level in that char I played, and I did not do anything with skills. When/how do I get skills/skill points? I should be able to follow this after I know where I get them. I imagine I'll understand what UMD is, too :D

UMD= Use Magic Device

Skills: When you create your character, you will do so under the "custom" tab, and set your own skill points every level

These are from the class trainer, right? When do I get the points or experience I need for these? At level up? Or is there a separate exp thing for them?

Yes- skill points when you level up, but you get 4 ACTION points (for enhancements) during each leveling process, which can be updated once you have enough action points for the enhancement

A few more questions:

What world should I make my char in? I chose the G one for my first char, Gallang-something-ish, since it was at the top. Does this follow the "top is newest/most used" rule that is in most free MMOs? I'd prefer to play when there are more people online, for party-forming and chatting, and am in a GMT+2 timezone.

Ghallanda is a great server to play on, I play at odd hours but can typically find a group with no problems

Thanks for reading and for any advice you might choose to offer :D And for not killing me when I inevitably mess it up and come crying that it didn't work ;)

Answers are posted in red!

Again, welcome -kudos for jumping on the forums first thing- you'll enjoy the game a LOT more that way......

WhoisKip
05-26-2010, 05:02 AM
Seems like all of your questions were well answered. I'll add that when dealing with skills, always max search first (you can get better tools and whatnot to help with disabling, but that means nothing if you can't find the box).

I've had a good time on every server I've logged on to. On Cannith I know there are a lot of folks that came over from the European servers and I've had fun running with guilds that cater to European players. I'm sure the same is true for other servers as well, however.

Happy hunting.

toughguyjoe
05-26-2010, 05:11 AM
I prefer halfling, but elf will be fine. if you have any other questions that have no been answered yet feel free to add to this thread, and we'll help you out to the best of our ability.


remember, just like the guide says, Don't dump Constitution! also.................Tomorrow i'll take a look at the feat progression on that build and see if I can figure out why they don't have Power Attack and Toughness........

I'd pretty much call those feats worth their weight in platinum so....I'll see what they were really going for there and get back to you.

Daliyn
05-26-2010, 05:15 AM
as a ranger which will be scrapped, as I don't feel comfortable playing a ranged char with the battle system.

All questions have been answered, just want to add that rangers are by no means always ranged. In contrast, the most common and effective ranger type is the tempest, wielding two weapons in melee. If you wanna look it up, there's a build in the same thread you got the Darkblade from.

tihocan
05-26-2010, 05:35 AM
Just wanted to add that you can follow links within the build, they explain more stuff, like how to multiclass, and use action points... You should also read the first post in that same thread for more info.
But you're right I should clarify some stuff, in particular like UMD (too used to it...).

PointyRhiana
05-26-2010, 06:11 AM
Thanks for all the replies :D

I'm reading some things, like that newbie guide linked in the newbie links post. Got nothing better to do, since I'm at work and all.

The Tempest ranger looks nice, but it doesn't have Search and Disable Devices and it has 3 different classes, not just two. I think I'll save that for when I know how to play a little better.